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Can you do these things in drambo!?
Is drambo the kind of place someone could make clones of all those amazing boutique synths and things I see around?
You know those ones that are made out of wood with gold touch keys or black with weird archaic symbols on!?
Can you make a wing pinger or a Strega or a ciat lombarde toccante, or a Lep looper or a stargazer or a subharmonicon or some kind of unholy mixture of those things!?
Cos I’d rather have all that stuff on an iPad I can fondle in bed than pay thousands to have it all on a table gathering dust.
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A quick search of patchstrorage dot com yielded 4 Subharmonicon-esque patches. I have not tried them myself.
Not sure of the others, but looking through the patch storage site might give you some more insight into what people are creating, and what’s possible from more experienced users.
I should really look there you are right!!! Thanks
@sevenape I would also recommend @childofthecorndog's Play Pits, which I think gets you in that kind of weird territory.
More generically, I'd say that sonic-wise Drambo is more than capable of doing all of that, assuming you're OK with digital renditions of analog gear. Some of Ciat Lombarde's instruments, IIRC, rely on continuous sampling, which can't currently be done with Drambo's sampling modules, but clever use of the delay rack can get you some of the way there.
Interaction-wise, if that's relevant, you won't find anything like Strega's live patching through touch plates or Ciat-Lonbarde's antenna-based interactions. I guess there's nothing stopping Giku to provide access to other sensors (proximity, camera, LIDAR) as modulation sources, like he does with the gyroscope module, but there's nothing like that at the moment, nor is there anything like an interface designer.
It depends on what you mean. Drambo can mimic the architecture of many of those … but in cases where the oscillators of filters have unique sonic characteristics, the imitation won’t sound the same. There will be a lot of issues of personal preference in deciding whether it is a satisfactory substitute.
Drambo only delivers the set of tools. Whether you want to build a simplistic synth or an advanced replica that sounds very close to the analog original, it's all up to you.
The essential part of building an "analog beast" is to understand what makes an analog synth sound "analog". There's a lot you can do to emulate what analog circuitry does to the sound.
I mean I’m not a purist by any means, I think for me a digital copy of an analogue system is more than sufficient… I’ve been enamored by the amazing toys Giorgio sancristoforo has been able to make using max… I think what I’m really looking for is a Sonic playground that isn’t daunting and which doesn’t involve lots of scrolling and zooming and wire patching. My dream would be something that was just one screen, that had maybe 4 independent oscillators with plenty of modulation options. I think kosmo synth for reaktor, but on iOS would be perfect. I think iOS in general has everything I could possibly dream of, but, the neat freak in me would like it all handy and in one app. I think maybe, when I have more time, I need to delete everything and just go all in on drambo? I read recently that autechre do everything in max now and I guess in iOS drambo is the best option for doing everything from scratch… again this is just a sort of compulsion to minimize and condense everything, I think this is because I’m old and grew up in the age of miniturisation… I dunno, I have a sense that what I really need is just around the corner… but that’s how we are all programmed to think right? To keep the economic wheels greased… I’ve had a bit too much pet nat as the kids are at their grandparents so I’ll come back tomorrow
)) thanks everyone!
@supadom
"3. Can analog systems reproduce sounds of Drambo?"
This is a very good point.
Sure they can, but it depends on the what's configured in Drambo.
@sevenape Have you looked at the recent Tera Pro app. Four oscs, simple in appearance, no wires, incredibly deep interconnection and modulation capabilities.
@auxmux
This track was created using only one synth design
so basically you're hearing eight synth engines.
The delay effects can be found here
https://patchstorage.com/globuled/
In theory I would need eight analogue synths and
a rack full of effects processors and a mixer desk to achieve the same thing.
It is doable for sure.
Good! I like synths with many type of osc and algorith like Factory and LaGrange.
Is there an other iOS synth that has many options like Tera Pro, SM2, Factory and LaGrange?
miRack
With all the options available, I'm quite confident that Drambo is your best option. You can modulate quite everything, use folded racks and Section modules for hiding what you don't need at the moment, use the more recently added Morph, Knobs and Buttons modules to build fairly powerful control, modulation and switch panels and while feedback needs the Feedback Send and Receive introducing 10ms delay, these work well in most synthesis projects.
And my utter approval for going all in with Drambo!
Because you'll need time to master it. It's easy to use and it helps me focus on what I want to accomplish instead of dealing with the app itself but Drambo won't tell you what to do. Creating new synths and sound effects can demand a lot of knowledge about how things work at their core and how to get a certain sound.
Practice and experience help a lot, as does reading about synth and effect architectures, algorithms, circuits etc.
What I was trying to say is that the whole digital vs analog discourse has reached the point beyond the stale. I’m sure those enamoured with that sound all have euroracks and the likes with their corresponding patching cables dangling sexily at them. It’s cool, I’m not dissing that approach at all.
What I’m saying is that maybe some of the old recipes could do with some new world spicing to take things to the next level. Computers have taken the art of medicine, genetics etc to a completely another level. Given enough funding we can come up with solutions in months that would have otherwise taken years to find.
While you’re repatching your set up to try a certain configuration I’m already at configuration number 7 and beyond. While you’re lining up your 5 oscillators I’ve already tried it with 10 only to realise I’m on a wild goose chase and I’m having a coffee thinking about the next idea.
While I understand that many of those configurations can be tested in ones head for most newbies and intermediate users Drambo and similar systems are an absolute God send.
Edit. Not to mention that I’m currently away in Dorset and noodling in D while composing this very body of text!
@sevenape
Definitely concur with the general sentiments here - Drambo is for me is a kind of forever thing - incredibly deep and flexible - the only draw back is the complexity. Sometimes I have to put it aside and work with things that are more immediate. However I find that when I come back to my old Drambo sketches and odd modular constructions, there's a musicality and freshness that I find lacking elsewhere. MiRack inside Drambo is a formidible combo too.
Thanks everyone! You’ve given me a lot to think about. As soon as it gets cooler I’ll take the plunge I think. I’d like something which has room to grow and mutate and all of that… hmmm
Thanks again!
I think my comment was taken way too seriously. Of course, doing things in Drambo is a lot easier and faster than analog. Trust me, I feel the same.
I don't think Sunrizer or Model 15 or any synth is an apt comparison of Drambo. It's the closest thing to Bitwig on iOS, so more a DAW with modular capabilities than a subtractive synth.
miRack + Drambo in AUM is the ultimate, because the midi and audio routing of AUM is unparalleled.
I’ll try to take you less seriously next time 😜