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Using a NI Komplete Kontrol Keyboard with an iPad...Possible?
Hi folks,
The 25-key NI Komplete Kontrol S25 MK1 is on sale at Sweetwater for $149, down from $299. The S61 MK1 is $279, down from $699.
Will either of these work as generic MIDI controllers, for the iPad?
And can the encoders be assigned specific CCs directly from the front panel, not requiring software to set them up?
Thanks.
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i dunno about the class complaint thing..theres a few other recent threads about it, but thank you for posting that sick deal on the 61
Possibly, but why? Unless you have a Mac or PC, or at least need some of the Native Instrument sounds, you’d be better off with something that’s more iOS compatible. The Novation Launchkey 61, or 49 are definite great options due to how they sync with apps like Groovebox, Launchpad, or even Atom.
source: https://support.ampifymusic.com/hc/en-gb/articles/360010537299-What-MIDI-hardware-is-supported-in-Ampify-apps-
Also, some of the keyboards like the Yamaha MX keyboards have a really cool feature that allows the sounds from an iPhone or iPad to play through the piano. I actually tested this in person.
I’m currently using a Novation Launchkey mk3 mini 25 key, an Arturia Keylab Essentials 49 key, and I’m hoping to find a Yamaha MX 61 key for live performances, due to the reliability of having the sounds directly on the keyboard.
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Hi. Please take a look at this thread. It's a bit meandering, but it says that some NI controllers use HID protocol, not MIDI, so they might not work with iOS. Make sure these ones have a "MIDI" mode.
You should check the manuals to be sure about configurability, etc. Both my keyboards (not NI) are configurable stand-alone, but my controller (knobs and button) requires a Windows configuration editor.
Have a look at this.
That's the thing. A Komplete Kontrol won't do much more than any other MIDI keyboard when used with iOS.
The only solution I could think of is something like a Raspberry Pi connected to the KK via USB and providing a MIDI link to the iPad (which could be Bluetooth!).
The Raspberry could take control over the two screens, the light guide, the buttons etc.
Code is available on various Github repositories but it will be quite a project to get something great out of it.
Probably makes most sense in conjunction with Drambo because it supports endless knobs and provides a WebDAV interface from that the Raspberry could read specific project parameters over WiFi.
Thanks folks. I'd like to use the S25 with an iPad and a Windows laptop (not at the same time). I do like NI sounds and their software. I have my Force as a MIDI controller for their Komplete Kontrol software, works seemlessly. So I guess I'd use the S25 with the iPad, mostly.
@AlmostAnonymous If you get the S61, pls let us know how it is with the iPad.
@seonnthaproducer I like to make music on the iPad and Windows, so a MIDI controller that works with both OS's would be required.
@uncledave Thanks. I'm even more confused.
Doug's video hexplained it all (and that train sample), thanks @Gravitas!
@StudioES Yeah, both controllers I mentioned work well with Windows and iOS. It's actually designed for Windows/Mac but they added the iOS compatibility as a bonus feature.
Spoiler alert: I use Mac, Windows, Linux, Android, and iOS. Yep, life is hard lol
Also, I'd recommend Ableton Live if you're using Windows. Apps like Koala Sampler, Blocs Wave, Gadget 2, and more allow you to send projects easily to Ableton Live. You can even get a free Ableton Lite licence from Koala Sampler iOS app (unless they've changed that recently).
@StudioES it won’t be. It will be permanently attached to kontakt, the nessacary evil it is (imho)
Yes @seonnthaproducer I've seen your videos and an old subscriber.
Nowadays I use Live, Cakewalk, and am learning Studio One. I used Cakewalk for 20+ years, but I use Live now because its clip-based system is light-years more evolved than Cakewalk's Matrix (which is their clip-based system, it actually preceded Live by a few years). Cakewalk has ARA, which makes editing in Melodyne and SpectraLayers much easier. Live doesn't have that.
The keybed on the S series is the best. Way better than almost any midi controller. If that matter to you.
Fatar FP-9S I think.
Did not find this deal in Canada
@StudioES
No problem.
@StudioES Appreciate the support. And I can’t believe I forgot Cakewalk. Bandlab for iOS synchronizes with it. So, there’s another option.
Any reason you chose Live over Bitwig? Everyone I know is ditching Live for it.
@Montreal_Music Ah, the Fatar keybeds are luxurious. I don't have a 'normal' piano MIDI controller with me (I just use the Force's pads), so the S25 is tempting me. That's all I have space for. Plus it comes with a ton of NI extras that I don't have (Massive, Monark, Reaktor Prism, Retro Machines Mk2, Drumlab, West Africa, The Gentleman, Scarbee Mark I, Vintage Organs, and Solid Bus Comp).
@AlmostAnonymous I have Bitwig 8-Track installed, love the UI, but Force has 'Live Control Mode' which is useful. There is DrivenByMoss though, but I haven't tested it yet.
