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Ending my GAS rant. why I am no longer using my IPAD as a Daw or focus on my workflow
this is a rant, and a public declaration that I had very bad GAS. This post is supposed to be the end of my gas
I love the ipad, and audiobus. I especially fell in love with blocs wave. BUT its all too limited and CRASHY. so many workaround to do what i want to do. Limitations are good, BUT when you also have ableton and push and part of you knows there is an easier way. WHY struggle with buggy tech?
the promise of being mobile is overrated. No mobile instruments are cool (a synth or a drum machine) but trying to setup a FULL mobile daw, in like AUM or audiobus, off battery power and controllers, never worked like i fantasized. so i will use single apps, save my work and add it to a larger composition at home later.
its taken me years to accept this. and the fact that lots of the "tutorials" i was watching to "learn" music, ... wasnt actually learning really, it was watching influencer commercials that are labelled "tutorials". like hanging out in a music equipment store. Dude showing you how it work is trying to sell it to you, this isn't music class. (I loved my time in the music shop btw, nice people great personalities) but its all GAS.
I have had a ton of fun messing around and learning all these new workflows for every "gamechanging" app, making wishlists of features we hope they would add etc.
I'm ready to finish songs again, so for the last few month I decided i wasn't buying anything new, i was to look thru everything i had and decide what was best for me and master that.
and ABLETON and PUSH won the contest why?
- its both linear and clip-based
- sampling is amazing
- comping
- Ableton link
- Ableton is basically everything you need. (any daw is actually)
so ableton as centre but an ipad as support, that's the key. dont have to worry about ipad CPU, (i have an ipad from 2017). just use the apps simply as intended.
are you still gonna use your ipad?
YES, but not as a daw. going to keep what i call "special apps" the app does something that i cant do in a daw,
here's what made the cut !
- Drumjam. (best percussion app in the world)
- Korg Ikaossilator. (simple glass play)
- Steppolyarp. ( touchable pattern creation)
- Fugue machine, (genius midi app)
- Chordion ( so fun and simple to use, please update lol!)
- Koala (workflow is fire)
- Samplr (sampler of the future!)
- Chordbot (underrated song writing app!)
- Figure ( simple fun)
- Animoog Z ( synth of the future!)
- Blocs wave (i had a lot of packs, i can start songs there and finish in ableton ) it has ableton export, and loop picking is different a musical muscle than playing)
I will miss
- beathawk (if you dont have a desktop or a daw, this app is really good for beat-making)
Garageband if i only had one musical app, it would be this. but its midi routing is to limited
going to sell all the controllers i don't use or need anymore, ESPECIALLY my MPE ROLI stuff. (buggy/dodgy company IMHO)
Lightpad blocks
Seaboard block
Kboard
im on the fence about whether i should sell maschine+jam, but i think ill keep it.....
Recently sold 2 Eigenharps (if it's not class compliant, i don't want it!)
Watching apple continually update the OS of the ipad you bought gets slower AND watching developers have to update their apps cause of all the changes that OS updates cause, you realize its a never ending game unless you decide to get out and freeze your workflow. BUT how can you do that when the next gamechanger is around the corner? lol. I love the devs, but im done waiting on someone to make music. I have a ton, time to enjoy it.
TLDR
- Ableton and the Push are really really really good. You probably already have your best tech. too.
- IF YOU have some really cool non mobile tech, ... USE IT.
- talk about needing to be mobile or having to have physical controls cause they are more fun, are BULLSHIT. anything can be fun if you have the right frame. mobile is overrated, and physical controllers are great, but so is touching glass! Everything has its place, you dont need more, you need to fall in love with what you have.
ok
bye
Comments
Well, you put me on to Drumjam, so thanks.
ok
bye
As a Sax player (since the ‘50s), this sounds like the never/ending discussion about Saxes & Reeds (a discussion that never had any right or wrong). 😏 The take-away (for me) was that every musician has his (or her) has their own unique mindset. My set of tools (that work perfectly well for me), more than likely will not work for the player sitting next to me. What does work, is the feedback we have from each other. I got my start in digital music in the PC environment and, after investing large amounts of $$$, I switched to iOS. I’m still making music (although mostly at home) and, to my ear, it’s more than sufficient (I also learned, from my sax years, virtually no one in the audience could tell what make of sax I had and what Reed I was using). I still use my PC stuff (it’s easier to get the results I need quicker), but the iOS stuff best suits my current mindset and wallet. Please do not take this as “rebuttal”. It’s just my opinion. Keep making 🎶 with whatever tools that best suit your flow. 👍
Take a look at its sibling ThumbJam as well. It’s excellent.
My take on this is...you gotta do what's right for you mate. Me, I'm a 100% mobile musician, although I can't lie. I wish we had something like Ableton Live or Logic Pro on iOS. Cubasis 3 is the closest we got to a traditional DAW (well, Auria Pro too, but it's not as intuitive to use). NS2 has a much better piano roll, but no audio tracks?
So I've given up on the idea of a traditional one-does-it-all central DAW coming to iOS. The way I view iOS now is it's like a virtual DAWless studio set up, much in the same vein as what guys like Richie Hawtin and Jeff Mills use for their hardware Minimal Techno music, just virtual. One app can do this and do it well. This other app over here can do that and do that well.
So what I use these days is Gadget for my EDM/beat-based creations, AUM for my live soundscape/ambient experiments, and Cubasis 3 for mastering beat-based creations. The way I view Gadget is as a collection of machines, a decent sequencer, and a very basic mixing desk. The way I view AUM is as a modular mixing desk that also happens to have tape-like functions (File Player, Gauss) and the ability to hook up MIDI sequencing in a modular sense (that'll be where Atom Piano Roll 2 comes in). Cubasis 3, being the closest to a traditional DAW, is perfect for mastering EDM/beat-based creations.
Speaking of AUM, the developer @j_liljedahl said in a different thread that he plans to add audio tracks, a customisable control surface, and automation, which will be major gamechangiers. 😂
@RubenDari : you should definitely go with what works for you. Many don’t have the same negative experience.. and those positive experiences are as legitimate as your negative experience.
Just came here to say I approve 100% your decision to keep iKaossilator around
lol
I'm not leaving. You guys are cool! Apps a great.
I just said bye to end a message lol.
but yeah
drumjam is the best
I agree what you're saying. The key is t to find what works for you. So I think I'm happily sharing that I found what works for me.
Thanks
Respect
lol yeah it's good
thumbjam is the first app my phone I love with! I still use it ( it is secretly on the list) , but because I think there is some duplication in functionality between thumbjam and ableton, I didn't type it
But I think more than any other thumbjam got me to understand the power scales, and what an iPhone can do.
thumbjam (and figure) for a long time, with the first apps I would show people, just show them how amazing IOS is.
I love ableton. Have been a user since ableton 5 and have used every release since though still to get 11.
I used ableton to teach music, was an ableton certified trainer and recommended it to everyone asking what daw to buy for music production.
But I’ve rarely used it over the last year or two as been doing most of my production on my iPad. Drambo, loopy pro, cubasis etc are great as are the many synths, drum machines and audio effects.
I could easily ditch them all and be happy going back to ableton but I love what the iPad offers and the ui of apps.
I’m also big believer of do what works and if that’s ableton and push for you that’s a powerful combo that gives you all you need for sure
Ableton is the best for producing complete tracks, but results are better when it has samples, loops, stems and midi sequences that were each created on iPhone anywhere inspiration was found.
I’ve spent so much time exploring music hardware and DAWs in the studio that it has become boring.
I just sit and stare at everything in the studio if there is no inspiration.
It’s not convenient for me to create loops or stems in the studio from memories of inspiration that happened hours or days ago.
I prefer the “real” thing created right where I was at the time.
This is also why I don’t use an iPad.
If it’s not always going to be with me, it’s going to sit on a studio desk and if it doesn’t have Ableton, then I prefer a computer instead.
hey! appreciate the comment.
my combo is ableton+push+touchable+IPAD midi apps like chordion, fugue machine....
Drambo! i have it, but i haven't wrapped my head around it, .. its on my list, maybe the "last" app that has will get a lot of attention ( cause I'm saying that i can't buy any more apps)
and loopy pro looks amazing... next level. BUT i wonder, will it be able to do anything ableton cant? sometimes it feels like apps do "sexier" ways of recreating workflows that already exist. (is there anything wrong with that?) no! there are always improvements to be made to existing workflows.
TLDR
it sounds like you got amazing test in apps my friend. lol that's all I'm saying
i can relate, i will use my iPhone and iPad to make pieces and stems that i will later finish in ableton!
Just chiming in.... I've come and gone and come and about to depart again from iOS. And it's my own issues..... too much time spent on the next shiny app. Not enough on mastering what I already got.
Will move next to MPC. More emphasis on muscle memory and a relatively closed system. Never used MPC before. We'll see how it goes.
Loopy isn’t trying to be Live … it is a flexible tool (and will continue to become more and more flexible and more and more able) that can (among other things) being used for some workflows people use Ableton for. But it doesn’t strive to be the same app as Ableton.
I’m not committed to any specific platform since all of them have their strengths and flaws. I’ve got some analog hardware, an M1 with Bitwig and a lot of plugins but am also currently rediscovering the iPad. Through the recent years I accumulated quite some apps and it’s fantastic to play with them when traveling. Just to create some loops, effects or rough ideas. It’s fairly easy to Airdrop some files when at home. It’s much easier to take the iPad with me instead of my Moog stuff, Lyra or even the MacBook with its licenses and keys.
Ableton user here and used to teach it.
I am faster and better with Drambo these days. With AUM too when I use it.
I used to get so frustrated with iOS… The crashes, poor sync, glitches and hearing damage.
What changed for me was the M1 pro and better file management. Oh and Drambo 2.0.
But I feel you. Ableton gets it done plain and simple.
I didn't mean to say that i wants to copy live. i know they are very different. I wasn't trying to negatively compare them both great (everything is good) . my workflows are linear (straight line) and non linear (loops). that's it. and in my simple mind, those are the 2 main ones when you break it down. Live is good at both.
I am still using an iPad from 2017, maybe if i had an M1 things wouldn't be so crashy for me.
i hear you on the file management though! i am going to improve my process! thanks for the tip
you get it! lol. i just wanna pick a few things to master. so im going to use what i got that doesn't crash.