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Absurd errors with Apple Mail on iDevices
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When I had problems with Apple's Mail app a long time ago, I switched to Gmail and have used it ever since. The Gmail app on iOS works great. I'm able to funnel all of my work and personal mail accounts through one app with no problems and everything remains stored on Google's servers. As far as I know, they've never been hacked or compromised. And they have both free and paid plans.
I haven't had many usability complaints with the Apple Mail app, but they apparently re-factored it when iOS 13 was released, which suddenly made it an insane resource hog. For example, on my old iPhone 5S with a few 10,000 mails, you could watch the Inbox "build itself" live on screen for several minutes, with blank table rows slowly filling up, and it would often crash with out of memory. Also, the whole phone would become so slow that the home screen animations would turn into a slideshow until you killed the Mail app.
I guess they've converted the good old 1970s Objective-C code to some modern fancy "Swift" crap which uses 10 x the resources 😎 (sorry I know... frustrated old man...)
(but hey. I grew up with the Commodore 64, and I just spent an hour optimizing the file sizes for saved Xequence instruments so they'd use ~ 500 bytes instead of 2500...)
I use Spark (by Readdle, a Ukrainian dev shop) for email on iOS and Mac and mostly absolutely love it. I have a sneaky feeling your problems here are less to do with the iOS Mail app though, and more to do with the fact that email accounts are considered a system setting on iOS for absolutely no good reason.
My various email accounts are all gmail with custom domains. I find iOS Apple Mail unbearably slow to retrieve new mail. I have no idea what it’s doing for even minutes sometimes.
The GMail app otoh is almost instant.
On desktop I use GMail in the browser and it’s better than any client I know. Except search sucks.
Yeah, just recently we made a web shop for one of our clients, and all his customers who used GMail didn't get any of the automated emails from the shop, not even in their SPAM folders.
Before going through any further trouble, I decided to just relay all shop emails through the "official" email server for their domain instead, before going through setting up that whole SPF / DKIM / S-PDIF 😉 hell.
__> @tja said:
I gave up running my own mail servers years ago. Way too much effort to keep it all running and secure. You don’t want to become a mail relay for someone else because you misconfigured something. And then all the SPF and DKIM stuff so you can actually send mail to others.
Seriously, don’t bother. There are better things to spend your time on.
Frustrating.
I was a die hard Gmail user from the early beta days until a couple years ago. There’s no way I could deny it’s a much faster and better designed email app compared to Apples offering.
Then I started getting ads fed to me about topics I only EVER discussed with people via email. This happened a few times, in a way that obviously was not random. Even though google swears they don’t scan peoples email, it just was a little too creepy for me.
Took me a long time to get used to Apple Mail, and I still dislike a few things about it like font size. But at least now I only see ads for grandpas with 6-pack abs and not health stuff that should only have been between me and my family.
Sorry, I got side tracked but this topic reminded me of that that.
I can relate. I’ve had all that as well. I even started with sendmail before postfix brought some sanity to the picture but I run Linux servers as work now and I don’t want to fiddle over much with them for pleasure.
Glad you’re on top of it all!