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TB MBC - Multi-Band Compressor from ToneBoosters
@DJB I am starting a new thread because every ToneBoosters release deserves a launch thread and the other thread still says 'coming soon'
TB MBC - the ultimate Multi-Band Compressor https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/tb-mbc/id1634911966
TB MBC is a multi-band dynamics processor and analog saturator, providing a wealth of tools to sculpt your audio tracks. With up to 10 fully configurable bands, 2 compressor curves per band, positive and negative saturation, and external side chain support, it is the most complete and versatile multi-band compressor available for iOS today.
Features:
Up to 10 frequency bands
Every band has two compressor curves
Upward and downward compression in each band
Positive and negative (expansive) saturation per band
Mid-side processing per band (for stereo input)
External side chain compression per band
Manual or automatic, program-dependent release
Configurable compression knee and compression range parameters
Audition mode per band
2nd order or 4th order cross-over network
Dry/wet mixing control for parallel / New York style compression
High Quality mode using internal oversampling
Spectrum analyser with various graphic presentation modes
Input and output gain parameters, and output digital VU meter
AUv3 with resizable UI and dozens of color themes to choose from
Preset management including import and export options
Undo, redo, A/B switching
Inter-app audio (IAA) support
What you should know:
Inter-App Audio (IAA) can only use one instance of this app simultaneously. We recommend to use an AUv3 host to use multiple instances.
Licenses acquired for this platform are not compatible with other platforms.
Audio Unit (AUv3) extensions require an iPad mini 2, iPad 4 or later models.
How to use this app as AUv3 plug-in in Apple Garageband for iOS:
https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/garageband-ipad/chse67d3af5f/ipadossteinb
How to use this app as AUv3 plug-in in Steinberg Cubasis for iOS:
https://download.steinberg.net/downloads_software/Cubasis/Cubasis_3_Web_Help/EF_Rack.html
How to use this app as AUv3 plug-in in Audio Evolution Mobile Studio for iOS:
https://www.audio-evolution.com/manual/ios/html/AudioUnitsandIAA.html
How to use this app as AUv3 plug-in in AUM - Audio mixer:
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Here is the PDF manual https://toneboosters.com/manuals/TB_MBC.pdf
Doug’s run through @thesoundtestroom
Beatmakers trick from @eylvy
Demo from @eylvy
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But can those parameter changes be automated? That's something I haven't found out yet.
This is a desktop version first impression. They highlight the pros and cons against one of Melda Production’s beastmode compressors which I’m not sure is fair. Feature for feature, not many can go up against Melda, but they rightly point out that the ToneBoosters UI, workflow, price, is much more attractive. (I still love Melda though and when they sell for 70% off they are more competitive in pricing. Whatever. We get both options from two distinct and amazing developers!)
Ease of use and having a smart set of practical functions means getting up and running immediately with Toneboosters apps. That's a pretty great combo for production work.
Good question, maybe this can be achieved using Drambo's automation or an app like 4pocket's MidiMixer for that.
Could some kind TB MBC +AUM owner look up the Node Latency for former in the latter @ 128 buffer , please ?
I’m disappointed to discover FabFilter Pro-MB is 20ms , so would be looking to purchase this if much lower latency.
Thanks
Are you talking about the time offset node? Am I supposed to measure something? Lemme know how to help. I have buffer set to 128.
@RetroNewb
@Blipsford_Baubie thanks
load TB MBC into fx , tap Battery / info icon top left
tap Node statistics in menu , then Latency header on Node Stats page
@pruddo many thanks ,your post hadn’t appeared when I last posted …
wow 1ms is certainly worth my money for live use .
thanks also to @Blipsford_Baubie
You can disable ‘look ahead’ in FF Pro-MB to get rid of the latency…
@Samu you forgot to mic drop ! your contribution deserved one
of course ! , thanks so much .. I’d overlooked that …
thanks all
No problem @RetroNewb , hey thanks to you too! I learned something new about AUM today.
Funny, I started this thread but never ended up getting the TB MBC as I already had FF ProMB. Revisiting this I see that the TB also has saturation and drive per band. That’s about the biggest difference I think. Has anyone compared?
For me FF Pro-MB has an edge in that it can also do downward-expansion (ie. reduce everything bellow the set threshold) which is especially handy for reducing high-frequency noise that might creep in and leave everything else intact.
They have their unique features and I would not replace one with the other.
(I already had FF Pro-MB when I got TB MBC and saw that they both have their use-cases).
I most often pick the FF Pro-MB over TB MBC for multi band compression but prefer TB Barricade for FF Pro-L2, they are booth good tools and both honestly worthy to be part of any toolbox.
MBC has two compression curves per band?
True, but I really miss downward expansion option which would make the options for each band in TB MBC 'perfect'.
(I tend to prefer the a 'downward expansion' & 'compression/limiting' combination).
@RetroNewb If you disable Lookahead, FabFilter Pro MB works without latency ( 0ms ).
@_ki yes , thanks , @Samu reminded me earlier in the thread ,
(& I’ve been kicking myself since , can’t believe I’d overlooked that .)
sorry for the trouble folks …I’ll show my (bruised) self out
Im glad you bumped this thread. Got me interested in this again.
Well I just came back to say - though I now won’t be buying TB MBC - I may well be getting TB Barricade !
My subsequent research on FF Pro-L is that there is NO zero latency option , different modes do affect latency ,
but even lowest Transparent or Punchy modes with Peak Limiter off & Lookahead @ 0 (although Lookahead doesn't seem to affect AUM Latency reading ) is 10.5 ms , whereas TB Barricade is advertised as <3ms .
Unless I’m wrong again about FF , it seems TB wins latency battle for Limiters .
I’m looking to use Ipad as Live FX for guitar playing, so these ms matter to me .
I just purchased TB MBC….looks great except… I’m trying to see if I can run different key inputs/sidechains into different compression bands (in AUM)… but it looks like only one side chain is available. Anyone have anything different?
I don’t think AUv3 supports multi channel side chain like VST3 does. Need a developer to confirm though.
I think it's more of a 'host issue' to be honest, not many hosts are able to route more than two audio feeds to one plug-in (Normal Input and a Secondary Input which is most often used for Side-Chain).
An AUv3 plug-in can advertise how many inputs and outputs it has and it's up to the host to handle the routing.
As far as I know TB MBC can only use the side-chain input for one band at one time, trying to enable side-chain for more than one band disables side-chain input for the previously selected band.
Only solution here is to use multiple instances at the same time if per band side-chain control is desired.
Ah damn... was hoping for a different answer but thanks for the responses @gusgranite and @Samu.
The multiple side-chain inputs SHOULD be possible now I'd imagine, based on other types of inputs we now have available through AUv3 (for example, the multiple bus inputs/outputs in LoopyPro). Actually, the FabFilter Pro-MB claims to have fully customizable external side chain input per band. Can anyone confirm this? I haven't purchased this app yet, but I may if this is supported. Additionally, I'll send a message to Toneboosters, see if they have any additional info/plans regarding this.
I think 'fully' is a bit over the top...
You can in FF-MB select the frequency range from the side-chain input to listen to, either the range defined by the current band or a free range. There's just one side-chain source shared for all the bands.
Both TB and FF plug-ins are free to demo on the desktop which is a good idea.
TB for as long as you like with preset-saving disabled, FF is 30 days or so.
When it comes to the UI I do honestly prefer ToneBoosters as they use larger fonts that are easier to see/read...
FF is really taxing my eyes (Microscopic Font Syndrome).