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Apollo Remote Recorder, out now....

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  • Apple announcement

    What Apple announcement?

  • @miguelmarcos said:

    Apple announcement

    What Apple announcement?

    Apple will be integrating MIDI over Bluetooth into iOS 8 and OSX Yosemite -- essentially doing what my app, Apollo MIDI over Bluetooth does. I don't know how far they're going to go with supporting other platforms, or if they'll publish enough info for other people to do it. The Quicco BLE hardware MIDI adapter team says they'll modify their firmware -- but I don't know if that's going to be easy to do or not.

  • In iOS 8 and Yosemite they'll enable midi over Bluetooth which will definitely effect apps that SecretBaseDesign has already released.

  • Agh! Been waiting for this, now it's out and I can't get on the App Store as I'm out of the country til Monday. Buggeration.

  • Apollo Remote Recorder 1.1 should be updating now. Recordings are now captured as WAV files (to play nice with Audio Copy and Paste). And of course, Audio Copy and Paste, support for input and output to AudioShare, and export through email and "open in."

    The web server has been tweaked to work with a Mac application called Apollo Remote Sync. The Mac app will be free, and should be available in a week or two. I'll work on a Windows version of this as well. You can probably guess what Remote Sync will do...

  • Hmm -- hearing reports of crashes with 1.1. Looking into that now, should have a fix shortly. I made some tweaks to make sure things work with iOS 8, and I may have screwed something up....

  • edited August 2014

    I've been using Apollo on the regular now instead of my wired iConnectmidi2+ connection. Fantastic app SBD! Simple and easy to setup and it has been working flawlessly for me.

    Edit: Whoops, my post was in reference to Apollo Bluetooth Midi. I never tried Remote Recorder.

  • I am slightly confused now between Bluetooth midi and remote recorder?
    My main purpose would be to use apps like thumb jam or Galileo to record into Logic Pro x. I am using an original mini and am unsure of it's bluetooth capabilities. Just one IOS device and the mac. Not sure which app would benefit most?
    Any Help appreciated.

  • @don Well, you can record Thumbjam (or whatever) into Logic without either of these. Setup a track to record audio in Logic, hit record and start playing your iPad with it connected to your Mac via headphone out (or audio interface via CCK). If you have a MIDI interface for your iPad and your Mac, you can hook that up as well to capture MIDI.

    But, both of these apps can enhance the experience in different ways.

    Bluetooth over MIDI will also allow you to capture the MIDI that you're playing on the iPad to a MIDI track on logic. Later, you can use that MIDI track to adjust your playing or change the instrument entirely.

    Remote Recorder will allow you to record the audio from Thumbjam in 'perfect' digital quality directly on the ipad and then transfer it over to Logic with a minimum of fuss (and skipping the extra D->A and A->D conversion).

    You can use them both together too! Send MIDI from Logic to Thumbjam (perhaps the midi that you captured via Bluetooth) and also set Remote Recorder to record it. Then transfer it losslessly to your mac.

  • Thank You syrupcore, that helped immensely.
    Much appreciated!
    Don

  • Sure.

    Bluetooth over MIDI will also allow you to capture the MIDI that you're playing on the iPad to a MIDI track on logic. Later, you can use that MIDI track to adjust your playing or change the instrument entirely.

    Just to be clear, the Apollo BT over MIDI app will allow you to wireless connect your iPad to your Mac. You connect it to a free Mac App (of the same name) available from the Mac App store. Once connected, Logic sees it as just another MIDI interface, ready to rock.

  • So cool! If only the ipad 2 had BTLE

  • Hi -- posting from my phone at an airport... Syrupcore has it right. One app is to send midi, the other does recording (and the update seems broken). The bluetooth midi has a free version, so you can try it out to be sure that it works with your hardware. iPad 2 does not have BLE but the mini does.

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  • Yup -- took it off sale so that no one would accidentally buy the broken version. Working on it now to sort out what's happening.

  • And a fix has been submitted, and an expedited review requested. Brain failure on my part when I switched off some debugging stuff for the final build. With luck, we'll be back on-line shortly.

    The bug only affects the iPad version (which is probably the version almost everyone uses). The iPhone version should be fine.

  • Apollo Remote Recorder 1.2 is out now -- I took the app off-sale for a few days, to prevent the 1.1 bug from nailing people (and hopefully, not too many people with 1.0 got the buggy 1.1 update).

    Apollo Remote Sync (which syncs recordings automagically to the Mac desktop) is waiting for review, and should be available shortly. That'll be free, and will work with ARR 1.2....

  • Apple is griping about sandboxing of files for Apollo Remote Sync... so until we get things worked out and make them happy, there will be a beta version up on our web site. Remote Sync is, and will stay free. I'd like to get it into the Mac app store, so that it's easier to get updates out to people, but we'll have to do it old-skool for right now.
    http://secretbasedesign.com/apps/apollorr
    Let me know if you run into trouble, or have questions. I'll try to get a video together for this in the next few days.

  • Ugh, sorry to hear it. Mac app store seemed like such a good idea, and I suppose it is for some things, but too many apps are running up against sandboxing problems. When Panic bails on an Apple platform, you know there's a problem.

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  • I'm sure I'll get things through the approval process at some point, and I am sympathetic to Apple on this. They're trying to keep malware off of people's machines, and the rules they've put in place are not completely stupid. It's a pain for developers, but I think it does actually work out for the best in the long run....

  • I totally agree but some apps just don't fit the mold. I wish they'd go the extra mile to vet and approve (and add warnings as needed) some of those apps. But if they wouldn't do it for Panic/Coda (and by all accounts Apple worked very hard to make it happen) I doubt they'll do it at all.

  • Winner, winner, chicken dinner, folks! Apple has approved Apollo Remote Sync for the Mac. It's free -- you connect it to Apollo Remote Recorder using WiFi, and then any new recording that happens on iOS is automagically transferred to the Mac. If you're a Mac user, this should make integrating iOS synths into desktop DAWs a bit easier.
    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apollo-remote-sync/id904635149?ls=1&mt=12

    And in related news -- the next release of Apollo Remote Recorder will stream audio over WiFi. There will be a new iOS app that catches the audio, so you can go device-to-device (full Audiobus support, of course). And for the desktop users -- there's an AU for the Mac, and a VST for the PC -- both of them are working, but need a little cleanup on the UIs. All of this stuff should be out in about two weeks. The iOS audio receiver, and both the plug-ins, will be free -- the plan is to make a few bucks from Remote Recorder, and the other stuff needs that, so I'm not going to charge extra for the added functionality.

    Streaming audio over WiFi adds a bit of latency -- it's looking like I can get it into the 60-70ms range, maybe a bit lower, depending on WiFi. Not ideal, but it should be faster than Airplay (I'm cutting out several layers of the software stack), and a DAW may be able to compensate for the latency automatically.

    Let me know if you've got questions, or run into trouble!

  • @SecretBaseDesign - So, I bought this app, but I think I slightly misunderstood how it works. I would like to record synth and guitar parts (through apps like JamUp and ToneStack) and send them to a desktop DAW. I have the following items:

    • iPad2 with Camera Connection Kit (for 30-pin adapter)

    • Desktop computer with DAW options with MIDI functionality, including Reaper, MultiTrackStudio, and Abelton 9 Lite (however, the desktop is plugged into ethernet, and is not currently on WiFi)

    • Apogee JAM guitar interface (for iPad)

    I do not have a separate MIDI interface, etc.

    What can I actually do with Apollo Remote Recorder and this setup? For example, could I use the MIDI control of Reaper/Ableton to drive synths on my iPad using only a USB cable through the camera connection kit?

    Also, is the web server WiFi only, or can I access it simply by visiting that IP address. App looks cool, but I guess i was a little confused as to how it actually works.

  • @StormJH1 said:

    @SecretBaseDesign - So, I bought this app, but I think I slightly misunderstood how it works. I would like to record synth and guitar parts (through apps like JamUp and ToneStack) and send them to a desktop DAW. I have the following items:

    • iPad2 with Camera Connection Kit (for 30-pin adapter)

    • Desktop computer with DAW options with MIDI functionality, including Reaper, MultiTrackStudio, and Abelton 9 Lite (however, the desktop is plugged into ethernet, and is not currently on WiFi)

    • Apogee JAM guitar interface (for iPad)

    I do not have a separate MIDI interface, etc.

    What can I actually do with Apollo Remote Recorder and this setup? For example, could I use the MIDI control of Reaper/Ableton to drive synths on my iPad using only a USB cable through the camera connection kit?

    You should be able to control ARR with MIDI from your desktop, but you'll need some sort of MIDI connection. I normally use Apollo MIDI over Bluetooth, and send MIDI notes to from Logic to Apollo on the Mac, which forwards things to the iPad. You could also use....

    • WiFi MIDI (RTPmidi on a PC, Audio MIDI Setup app on a Mac)
    • USB-to-MIDI cables (two of them, back-to-back), plus a camera connection kit
    • USB-to-MIDI cable, with an iPad MIDI adapter (iRig MIDI)
    • USB-to-MIDI cable, plus an iPad dock that has MIDI

    I use Logic to sequence synths on the iPad -- I like the range of sounds that I've got with Animoog and friends, but much prefer sequencing in the Logic environment.

    If you can send MIDI to your iPad to play a synth, you should be able to turn the recorder on and off too (ARR responds only to notes on channel 16).

    You can also toggle recording on and off manually (either in the app, or with the AB panels). The MIDI control of recording is so that it's easier to line up a recording with a measure bar in your DAW.

    Also, is the web server WiFi only, or can I access it simply by visiting that IP address. App looks cool, but I guess i was a little confused as to how it actually works.

    I'm expecting most people to have a WiFi router -- I use a little Belkin router, that has both WiFi and a few ethernet ports. My Macs are wired to the router with ethernet cable, while the iOS devices connect over WiFi. They're all on the same network, though, and can see each other.

    You should be able to type in the IP address shown on ARR into a Mac or PC browser window, and get a web page from ARR to pop up. From there, click any of the recordings to download them to the desktop.

    If you're running a Mac, we have a free app called Apollo Remote Sync -- this will run on the Mac, connect, and automatically download new recordings (so you don't even have to mess with the web browser).


    And while I'm here -- version 1.3 of Apollo Remote Recorder, with WiFi audio streaming, has been approved, and I'll release it in a few days. I'm waiting for the approval of the new app, Apollo Sound Injector, which receives the streamed audio.

    The DAW plug-ins are already on our web page. The Mac AU is reasonably stable, but the VST is a bit cobbled together. Both of these are free, and I'll keep hacking on the plug-ins to make them more robust. (The PC one, in particular, is kind of rickety -- I'm not much of a windows hacker, and there's a whole lot of scotch tape and bailing wire to get that one to work).

  • Apollo Sound Injector? Sounds good to me!

    @StormJH1 Don't forget that we iPad 2 users can't use Apollo because of BlueTooth LE, lack thereof rather.

  • on sale today only $1

  • Great, using it now with the ipad2 and iPad Air2. Only using the Wifi streamer at the moment into Logic X. Much more stable on the iPad Air2. Now I need a 802.11ac router too... Awesome!

  • edited November 2014

    Apollo Remote Recorder

    +Apollo Sound Injector

    =magic.

    I had to try it to believe that it really works. :-) I just sent an audio stream from my iPhone to my iPad. I'm so impressed

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