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Xequence2 and Loopy Pro devs. It’s time to start working together… mmmk?

@SevenSystems you have imo the BEST traditional DAW like, track and pattern based MIDI timeline application on iOS. Not as complicated as ATOM2 and way smoother than literally every other MIDI sequencer (often cheaper too) the only thing missing (because logically its a MIDI sequencer so it would be) is audio sequencing../// NOW,

we already know that X2 pairs/syncs/makes love to/slaves (etc) perfectly with @MichaelTyson ’s Loopy Pro… which is currently missing MIDI notes/MIDI on the timeline, etc..

cmon guys. You can figure it out. in fact you can figure it out AND both keep your respected APPs. and it would only add A LOT more to your appstore income…

like with loopy pro, for real i’ve NEVER been a looper. Nope. Koala is the first “looper” ive been able to succeed with and that has a midi piano roll timeline sequencer lol. I still cant wrap my head around how the looping works in regards to playing samples at different times, or a one shot halfway through a different loop on a syncopated beat.. like I just cant wrap my head around loopy pro right now. (i know i know youtube) But if It had MIDI sequencing in the timeline…

I can promise you that me and lots of other people who weren’t before would start REALLY digging into Loopy Pro and figure it out because from what i can tell, most people recognize instinctively that it is pretty much the best iOS music production DAW, or rather one day soon, WILL BE the pinnacle achievement of iOS music production unless reason studios or studio one or ableton decide that the new M1 and soon M2, 3, etc iPads are good enough to port their DAWS too it, (although reason would be stupid not to port their reason rack as an AUv3 plug in, rather then their whole DAW) but thats not gonna happen anytime soon so for now. even though a lot of us dont use it, i know deep down that it reigns king. especially when hosted in AUM, (and possibly audiobus 3) but im confident that soon it will have everything it lacks that AUM and AB3 have, and then some.

so please guys. I really truly think A LOT of us would finally take the time to sit down with loopy pro for like 2+ hours just learning how to use it if @SevenSystems helped build an xequence2 inspired pattern, clip, track sequencer for MIDI, integrated into the audio timeline it has now, (maybe revamping from the ground up?) and with the ability to have unlooping, audio tracks that arent in a donut….. yepp that would be the final note to the pied piper that is loopy pro..

thats my 2cents (and 2000 word essay) thanks for reading, to all who took the time and did :)

Comments

  • Great thoughts. And two of the most capable and reliable developers on iOS partnering would surely be a beautiful thing.

    However, Xequence 2 and Loopy Pro are two very different animals. Xequence is at heart a linear timeline sequencer ideal for someone geared toward that type of compositional style. Loopy Pro is at heart a looper and clip launcher that has a timeline.

    @SevenSystems hasn't taken the bait over several years from prodding to add more of an interactive clip launcher and looping capability to X2. He also (so far) hasn't been up for a stripped down version of Xequence in an AUv3 format. Nor has he bent to calls to add even basic audio clip support. He's remained true to the application's roots. B)

    @Michael already has plans to add integrated MIDI looping in Loopy Pro. I imagine he has a well developed concept of how he wants it to fit in to Loopy's primarily loop-based approach in such a way that the only difference between MIDI and audio workflow is that they are MIDI and audio.

    I don't really see the synergy. Maybe one could subcontract the other to do part of some work, but for indie developers, that's a lot tricker than you might imagine.

    Still! If they did put their heads together, the quality results would be amazing! B)

    BTW - if you're looking for a synergy between loop/clip based and timeline based DAW, Zenbeats and BM3 come the closest. Neither are best-in-class at either, but both are good in their own ways.

  • @wim said:
    Great thoughts. And two of the most capable and reliable developers on iOS partnering would surely be a beautiful thing.

    However, Xequence 2 and Loopy Pro are two very different animals. Xequence is at heart a linear timeline sequencer ideal for someone geared toward that type of compositional style. Loopy Pro is at heart a looper and clip launcher that has a timeline.

    @SevenSystems hasn't taken the bait over several years from prodding to add more of an interactive clip launcher and looping capability to X2. He also (so far) hasn't been up for a stripped down version of Xequence in an AUv3 format. Nor has he bent to calls to add even basic audio clip support. He's remained true to the application's roots. B)

    @Michael already has plans to add integrated MIDI looping in Loopy Pro. I imagine he has a well developed concept of how he wants it to fit in to Loopy's primarily loop-based approach in such a way that the only difference between MIDI and audio workflow is that they are MIDI and audio.

    I don't really see the synergy. Maybe one could subcontract the other to do part of some work, but for indie developers, that's a lot tricker than you might imagine.

    Still! If they did put their heads together, the quality results would be amazing! B)

    BTW - if you're looking for a synergy between loop/clip based and timeline based DAW, Zenbeats and BM3 come the closest. Neither are best-in-class at either, but both are good in their own ways.

    Interesting. Cus everyone raves all the time about the loopy pro x2 AUM workflow that’s supposed to be crazy awesome

  • wimwim
    edited August 2022

    @pr4y_4_beats said:

    @wim said:
    Great thoughts. And two of the most capable and reliable developers on iOS partnering would surely be a beautiful thing.

    However, Xequence 2 and Loopy Pro are two very different animals. Xequence is at heart a linear timeline sequencer ideal for someone geared toward that type of compositional style. Loopy Pro is at heart a looper and clip launcher that has a timeline.

    @SevenSystems hasn't taken the bait over several years from prodding to add more of an interactive clip launcher and looping capability to X2. He also (so far) hasn't been up for a stripped down version of Xequence in an AUv3 format. Nor has he bent to calls to add even basic audio clip support. He's remained true to the application's roots. B)

    @Michael already has plans to add integrated MIDI looping in Loopy Pro. I imagine he has a well developed concept of how he wants it to fit in to Loopy's primarily loop-based approach in such a way that the only difference between MIDI and audio workflow is that they are MIDI and audio.

    I don't really see the synergy. Maybe one could subcontract the other to do part of some work, but for indie developers, that's a lot tricker than you might imagine.

    Still! If they did put their heads together, the quality results would be amazing! B)

    BTW - if you're looking for a synergy between loop/clip based and timeline based DAW, Zenbeats and BM3 come the closest. Neither are best-in-class at either, but both are good in their own ways.

    Interesting. Cus everyone raves all the time about the loopy pro x2 AUM workflow that’s supposed to be crazy awesome

    I don't know about everyone else, but I don't especially rave about it or think it's crazy awesome. It's definitely cool, and very nice that it actually works. That has been a glaring hole in iOS workflow since forever.

    But - my comment wasn't about the nifty interoperability of the two solutions. It was about the different focus of the two developers and their respective mainstay apps. Making two such differently focused tools work together via a standard protocol such as MIDI is one thing. Melding them together into a single product is another.

    Anyway, it's just my own armchair observation about how likely I think it would be to happen. I'm not trying to trash the idea. ✌🏼

  • @wim : Spot on! I could never use Xequence because if it’s inate inability to mix time signatures, a huge flaw KMO.

  • McDMcD
    edited August 2022

    I think is Australian it’s still illegal to marry another developer. And asking @Michael to move to Germany (is it?) seems like a big ask just for users. But you keep thinking. @Michael only has developer’s income and @Sevensystems still has a real job so… matching hours for Zoom calls could be tricky.

    One of these developers is difficult to get along with. Your guess… something to do with Apple Docs making life more difficult than it really should be.

    The other one has been teaching Apple how to improve the platform and sell more music apps as a result.

  • @wim said:

    @pr4y_4_beats said:

    @wim said:
    Great thoughts. And two of the most capable and reliable developers on iOS partnering would surely be a beautiful thing.

    However, Xequence 2 and Loopy Pro are two very different animals. Xequence is at heart a linear timeline sequencer ideal for someone geared toward that type of compositional style. Loopy Pro is at heart a looper and clip launcher that has a timeline.

    @SevenSystems hasn't taken the bait over several years from prodding to add more of an interactive clip launcher and looping capability to X2. He also (so far) hasn't been up for a stripped down version of Xequence in an AUv3 format. Nor has he bent to calls to add even basic audio clip support. He's remained true to the application's roots. B)

    @Michael already has plans to add integrated MIDI looping in Loopy Pro. I imagine he has a well developed concept of how he wants it to fit in to Loopy's primarily loop-based approach in such a way that the only difference between MIDI and audio workflow is that they are MIDI and audio.

    I don't really see the synergy. Maybe one could subcontract the other to do part of some work, but for indie developers, that's a lot tricker than you might imagine.

    Still! If they did put their heads together, the quality results would be amazing! B)

    BTW - if you're looking for a synergy between loop/clip based and timeline based DAW, Zenbeats and BM3 come the closest. Neither are best-in-class at either, but both are good in their own ways.

    Interesting. Cus everyone raves all the time about the loopy pro x2 AUM workflow that’s supposed to be crazy awesome

    I don't know about everyone else, but I don't especially rave about it or think it's crazy awesome. It's definitely cool, and very nice that it actually works. That has been a glaring hole in iOS workflow since forever.

    But - my comment wasn't about the nifty interoperability of the two solutions. It was about the different focus of the two developers and their respective mainstay apps. Making two such differently focused tools work together via a standard protocol such as MIDI is one thing. Melding them together into a single product is another.

    Anyway, it's just my own armchair observation about how likely I think it would be to happen. I'm not trying to trash the idea. ✌🏼

    Yeah, I guess I didn’t mean literally mix them or ingrain them. But work together to get a lot of the features from x2 we all love into loopy. And loopy could add stuff that x2 doesn’t have on its own.. i just mean like, idk somehow in some way help each other out but obviously feel free to trash the idea lol and if the logistics are too complicated and there’s tension between devs then trash it. Literally I’m throwing my iPad away right now

  • @Telstar5 said:
    @wim : Spot on! I could never use Xequence because if it’s inate inability to mix time signatures, a huge flaw KMO.

    I hear ya... per-clip time signatures are "mildly high" on the agenda! (not tempo changes though)

  • @pr4y_4_beats said:

    @wim said:

    @pr4y_4_beats said:

    @wim said:
    Great thoughts. And two of the most capable and reliable developers on iOS partnering would surely be a beautiful thing.

    However, Xequence 2 and Loopy Pro are two very different animals. Xequence is at heart a linear timeline sequencer ideal for someone geared toward that type of compositional style. Loopy Pro is at heart a looper and clip launcher that has a timeline.

    @SevenSystems hasn't taken the bait over several years from prodding to add more of an interactive clip launcher and looping capability to X2. He also (so far) hasn't been up for a stripped down version of Xequence in an AUv3 format. Nor has he bent to calls to add even basic audio clip support. He's remained true to the application's roots. B)

    @Michael already has plans to add integrated MIDI looping in Loopy Pro. I imagine he has a well developed concept of how he wants it to fit in to Loopy's primarily loop-based approach in such a way that the only difference between MIDI and audio workflow is that they are MIDI and audio.

    I don't really see the synergy. Maybe one could subcontract the other to do part of some work, but for indie developers, that's a lot tricker than you might imagine.

    Still! If they did put their heads together, the quality results would be amazing! B)

    BTW - if you're looking for a synergy between loop/clip based and timeline based DAW, Zenbeats and BM3 come the closest. Neither are best-in-class at either, but both are good in their own ways.

    Interesting. Cus everyone raves all the time about the loopy pro x2 AUM workflow that’s supposed to be crazy awesome

    I don't know about everyone else, but I don't especially rave about it or think it's crazy awesome. It's definitely cool, and very nice that it actually works. That has been a glaring hole in iOS workflow since forever.

    But - my comment wasn't about the nifty interoperability of the two solutions. It was about the different focus of the two developers and their respective mainstay apps. Making two such differently focused tools work together via a standard protocol such as MIDI is one thing. Melding them together into a single product is another.

    Anyway, it's just my own armchair observation about how likely I think it would be to happen. I'm not trying to trash the idea. ✌🏼

    Yeah, I guess I didn’t mean literally mix them or ingrain them. But work together to get a lot of the features from x2 we all love into loopy. And loopy could add stuff that x2 doesn’t have on its own.. i just mean like, idk somehow in some way help each other out but obviously feel free to trash the idea lol and if the logistics are too complicated and there’s tension between devs then trash it. Literally I’m throwing my iPad away right now

    Haha... :) I don't think there's any significant tension between those developers... but we do have to postpone the wedding indefinitely 😂

    (I'm German-born yes, but Irish-living...)

  • I hear ya... per-clip time signatures are "mildly high" on the agenda! (not tempo changes though)

    Sorry if the tempo changes thing has been discussed on another thread…is it on the never happening list?
    Is it a code in Xequence issue or a cause problems with other apps type issue?
    Would another app (mozaic or something) be able to do anything that could help?
    Does the amount of tempo changes per song have any bearing on the problem or it’s all the same?
    Sorry for ignorance, interested in problem and any workarounds. Thanks!

  • @Zerozerozero said:

    I hear ya... per-clip time signatures are "mildly high" on the agenda! (not tempo changes though)

    Sorry if the tempo changes thing has been discussed on another thread…is it on the never happening list?
    Is it a code in Xequence issue or a cause problems with other apps type issue?
    Would another app (mozaic or something) be able to do anything that could help?
    Does the amount of tempo changes per song have any bearing on the problem or it’s all the same?
    Sorry for ignorance, interested in problem and any workarounds. Thanks!

    No problem :) In a nutshell: I originally just made Xequence for myself and I'm an EDM musician, so tempo changes for me are like telling a fish how to fly an airplane... so every single technical decision during development has been made in that light... there's lots and lots of places in the code that assume a linear relationship between song position and time. Also, Ableton Link integration would normally not even have been reasonably possible in those circumstances, so that relies on a few hacks to make it work.

    Basically, adding dynamic tempo support would involve tearing large parts of Xequence to pieces and putting it back together :) I've looked into it briefly and it's possible, but only if I got paid a proper full-time wage for the length of the implementation 😂😉 (sorry!)

  • @pr4y_4_beats said:
    @SevenSystems you have imo the BEST traditional DAW like, track and pattern based MIDI timeline application on iOS.

    That seems to be a popular opinion around here. And I wish I could figure out why.

    @pr4y_4_beats said:
    Not as complicated as ATOM2

    Huh?

    I don’t get it. I know Atom 2 inside and out, and have used Atom 1 and 2 for years, and have used them on everything. I absolutely LOVE ATOM2! I probably have over a hundred pieces made with Atom 2 being used on my YT channel.

    Now Xequence 1 and 2 I’ve had just as long, and I’ve tried to follow it, even joining the beta, but I can honestly say, that I have never made a single piece of music with it, because I have NO IDEA how it works! lol seriously, I’ve tried to understand it, have tried watching tutorials, but there’s something about it that I just cannot wrap my head around.

    No offense @SevenSystems ! There’s a reason why there’s a lot of people that love Xequence 2. Whatever that reason is, just hasn’t clicked with me yet.

    Am I just an idiot? I mean I use Atom 2 like drinking water. Drambo? No problem! I use Atom 2 inside Drambo in all kinds of creative ways. Atom2 works everywhere, Drambo (my current favorite host/daw), AUM, Loopy Pro, CB3.

    So, I really want to figure out why Xequence is so popular. Please, someone link me up with a straight forward tutorial or something that clearly explains how to use this app. I want to be part of the “cool kid” club too!

    I have the latest beta version just installed. If this isn’t “as complicated as Atom2”, then it should be a breeze to learn how to use.

  • edited August 2022

    Unfortunately, I think the difficulty of using Xequence is that it's a standalone app and works well for those who were used to or like using multiple app setups. Such as IAA.

    I didn't really get into using iOS until AUs took off like 5-6 years ago. Prior to that, I had most of the popular iOS apps but there wasn't a workflow that I worked for me. I tried Audiobus, Gadget, and others, but they weren't working for me. AUM was a revelation for me as have Drambo and Loopy Pro since then.

    I think Xequence is one of most well designed, visually and functionally, apps on iOS, but it's difficult to integrate into my workflow that relies on AUs and a singular hosted environment. I'll continue to support its development and hopefully more AUs like Xequence Pads and Keys, because it's clear how much effort and work has gone into the main app.

  • @auxmux said:
    Unfortunately, I think the difficulty of using Xequence is that it's a standalone app and works well for those who were used to or like using multiple app setups. Such as IAA.

    I didn't really get into using iOS until AUs took off like 5-6 years ago. Prior to that, I had most of the popular iOS apps but there wasn't a workflow that I worked for me. I tried Audiobus, Gadget, and others, but they weren't working for me. AUM was a revelation for me as have Drambo and Loopy Pro since then.

    I think Xequence is one of most well designed, visually and functionally, apps on iOS, but it's difficult to integrate into my workflow that relies on AUs and a singular hosted environment. I'll continue to support its development and hopefully more AUs like Xequence Pads and Keys, because it's clear how much effort and work has gone into the main app.

    I get that. And I’ve been around since then too. I am quite familiar with using standalone apps with each other with AudioBus and IAA. That’s not the problem. For me, it’s navigating the Xequence interface. This is an app where I literally have no idea what I’m doing lol.

    I want to learn how to use it! I know, that with all the praise xequence 2 gets around here, that all of these people can’t be wrong. There’s got to be something about it that keeps people using it, and something that keeps it relevant these days, with all the AUv3 this and that. I’m dying to know what it is, it’s got to be something magical!

    I’m determined! I guess I’ll keep trying to find some tutorials.

    I just bought @SevenSystems’ AU bundle (Xequence Pads and Keys) to show my support in the meantime.

  • edited August 2022

    I keep trying Xequence every year or so but I’m unable to discern where the boundaries of one part of a thing in it end and the rest of it that isn’t that thing begins

    I’ve got to get into it soon because I plan to use it to drive live performances of my songs in future

  • I’m going to have to go through some tutorial videos for Xequence 2 – I’ll be needing it

  • wimwim
    edited August 2022

    I'm game for trying to help out anyone who doesn't "get" X2. It's definitely not rocket science. Probably clearing up just a few specifics if you can articulate what you don't get will do it.

    But that discussion should should be in a separate thread.

  • @SevenSystems said:

    @Zerozerozero said:

    I hear ya... per-clip time signatures are "mildly high" on the agenda! (not tempo changes though)

    Sorry if the tempo changes thing has been discussed on another thread…is it on the never happening list?
    Is it a code in Xequence issue or a cause problems with other apps type issue?
    Would another app (mozaic or something) be able to do anything that could help?
    Does the amount of tempo changes per song have any bearing on the problem or it’s all the same?
    Sorry for ignorance, interested in problem and any workarounds. Thanks!

    No problem :) In a nutshell: I originally just made Xequence for myself and I'm an EDM musician, so tempo changes for me are like telling a fish how to fly an airplane... so every single technical decision during development has been made in that light... there's lots and lots of places in the code that assume a linear relationship between song position and time. Also, Ableton Link integration would normally not even have been reasonably possible in those circumstances, so that relies on a few hacks to make it work.

    Basically, adding dynamic tempo support would involve tearing large parts of Xequence to pieces and putting it back together :) I've looked into it briefly and it's possible, but only if I got paid a proper full-time wage for the length of the implementation 😂😉 (sorry!)

    Could be wrong but that’s sounding like a firm no😂
    Fair enough, it’s more of a nice to have thing and would probably only get occasional use anyway.
    ✌🏻

  • edited September 2022

    @Edward_Alexander said
    I probably have over a hundred pieces made with Atom 2 being used on my YT channel.

    What your channel link?

    @pr4y_4_beats looks like you are possibly requesting that Xequence plays in a more modular and collaborative way in the AUM ecosystem?

    Personally I’m looking forward to seeing what @Michael comes up with. I have stated my 2cents / dreams previously that I think that… as loopy is non-linear, the midi looper could also be nonLinear. I.e. borrowing (like sugar from next door) inspiration from other iOS nonlinear circular sequencers..

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