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CME Xkey Air 37 - should I?

gregsmithgregsmith
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I want one of these but does anyone know if something better is on the horizon before I take the plunge?

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  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    @gregsmith said:
    I want one of these but does anyone know if something better is on the horizon before I take the plunge?

    Can't tell you about the future, but can say that these are lovely in the present...

  • Pierre118Pierre118

    @gregsmith said:
    I want one of these but does anyone know if something better is on the horizon before I take the plunge?

    Define 'better'

  • ion677ion677

    The Keystep 37 is built like a tank and has a sequencer and arpeggiator and aftertouch.

  • AlfredAlfred

    Found the aftertouch on my xkey 25 hard to control.

  • u0421793u0421793

    @Pierre118 said:

    @gregsmith said:
    I want one of these but does anyone know if something better is on the horizon before I take the plunge?

    Define 'better'

    https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/better

  • gregsmithgregsmith
    edited August 2022

    @u0421793 said:

    @Pierre118 said:

    @gregsmith said:
    I want one of these but does anyone know if something better is on the horizon before I take the plunge?

    Define 'better'

    https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/better

    😂

    I dunno really. A newer version? Someone realeasing one with this form factor but a couple more features?

    @ion677 said:
    The Keystep 37 is built like a tank and has a sequencer and arpeggiator and aftertouch.

    But is it Bluetooth?

  • symianbeatzsymianbeatz
    edited August 2022

    @gregsmith said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @Pierre118 said:

    @gregsmith said:
    I want one of these but does anyone know if something better is on the horizon before I take the plunge?

    Define 'better'

    https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/better

    😂

    I dunno really. A newer version? Someone realeasing one with this form factor but a couple more features?

    @ion677 said:
    The Keystep 37 is built like a tank and has a sequencer and arpeggiator and aftertouch.

    But is it Bluetooth?

    Get a behringer swing and Bluetooth midi adapter and save yourself a bunch of money... Close to a hundred probably a shade more..

  • rs2000rs2000

    Does it have to be as flat as the Xkey?
    Do you need good aftertouch response? (I love my Keystep but the aftertouch response is nothing to write home about)

    If I had to choose again, I would choose only by keyboard quality and add a Bluetooth adapter in case it's not on board.

  • rs2000rs2000

    BTW if anyone knows a mini size keyboard with well controllable aftertouch pressure, I'd be more than happy to know!

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike
    edited August 2022

    @rs2000 said:
    BTW if anyone knows a mini size keyboard with well controllable aftertouch pressure, I'd be more than happy to know!

    KMI QuNexus has polyphonic aftertouch, 3 track arp/seq, cv out and MPE, retails for $199.

  • Pierre118Pierre118

    @gregsmith The CME is nice when you're looking for a wireless lightweight keyboard. It lacks some features like ARP and sequencer and the aftertouch isn't the best of the world, but is editable with the software. I bought one for €50,- and I am very happy with it. It's nice to have around for a quick session on my iPhone/iPad.

    If I need ARP and/or sequencing I wireless connect my Keystep 37 using a bluetooth adapter.

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @rs2000 said:
    Does it have to be as flat as the Xkey?
    Do you need good aftertouch response? (I love my Keystep but the aftertouch response is nothing to write home about)

    If I had to choose again, I would choose only by keyboard quality and add a Bluetooth adapter in case it's not on board.

    I do like the flatness of it. The more portable something is, the more I tend to use it.

    I’m embarrassed to admit I know nothing about aftertouch. I have a akai lpk25 wireless which I assume doesn’t have it, so I don’t know what I’m missing 😊

    @Pierre118 said:
    @gregsmith The CME is nice when you're looking for a wireless lightweight keyboard. It lacks some features like ARP and sequencer and the aftertouch isn't the best of the world, but is editable with the software. I bought one for €50,- and I am very happy with it. It's nice to have around for a quick session on my iPhone/iPad.

    If I need ARP and/or sequencing I wireless connect my Keystep 37 using a bluetooth adapter.

    Thanks! I don’t really need the features like an arp as I do all that stuff in my iPad anyway.

  • ChandylandChandyland

    On the topic of using a wireless adapter with a KeyStep, does anyone have recommendations for a good battery for the KeyStep?

  • rs2000rs2000

    @gregsmith Sounds like the Xkey Air would be a good choice for you!

    @Chandyland said:
    On the topic of using a wireless adapter with a KeyStep, does anyone have recommendations for a good battery for the KeyStep?

    I've attached a simple 2300mAh powerbank stick to a blind plug at the sustain pedal port.
    Its power cunsumption is super low but that's the old Keystep, the Keystep 37 might need more power.

  • LittlewoodgLittlewoodg

    @gregsmith
    have you played with one?

    if so you probably know its a really cool thing, and/but is a completely different feel/experience than conventional keys controller. you probably have felt the shallow 1/8 inch travel/throw/press what-ever-you’d-call-it of the keys themselves. And it does click like a qwerty keyboard. maybe this is different now my non air-one is pretty old…

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @Littlewoodg said:
    @gregsmith
    have you played with one?

    if so you probably know its a really cool thing, and/but is a completely different feel/experience than conventional keys controller. you probably have felt the shallow 1/8 inch travel/throw/press what-ever-you’d-call-it of the keys themselves. And it does click like a qwerty keyboard. maybe this is different now my non air-one is pretty old…

    I haven’t tried one, no. Sounds like it takes some getting used to but I think it could suit my needs.

  • LittlewoodgLittlewoodg
    edited August 2022

    @gregsmith said:

    @Littlewoodg said:
    @gregsmith
    have you played with one?

    if so you probably know its a really cool thing, and/but is a completely different feel/experience than conventional keys controller. you probably have felt the shallow 1/8 inch travel/throw/press what-ever-you’d-call-it of the keys themselves. And it does click like a qwerty keyboard. maybe this is different now my non air-one is pretty old…

    I haven’t tried one, no. Sounds like it takes some getting used to but I think it could suit my needs.

    i really like mine…and i have the smaller wired one. I think the air with 37 keys will be sweet

  • ChandylandChandyland

    @rs2000 said:
    @gregsmith Sounds like the Xkey Air would be a good choice for you!

    @Chandyland said:
    On the topic of using a wireless adapter with a KeyStep, does anyone have recommendations for a good battery for the KeyStep?

    I've attached a simple 2300mAh powerbank stick to a blind plug at the sustain pedal port.
    Its power cunsumption is super low but that's the old Keystep, the Keystep 37 might need more power.

    Thanks! For some reason I didn’t think to search for “power bank stick” specifically, so this is a big help.

  • Lil_Stu07Lil_Stu07

    The Keystep 37 has pretty low consumption. I have to put my power banks into low power mode to use it. Seems to take about as much ~power as an apple watch.

  • rs2000rs2000

    @Lil_Stu07 said:
    The Keystep 37 has pretty low consumption. I have to put my power banks into low power mode to use it. Seems to take about as much ~power as an apple watch.

    Thanks, that's good to know as I'm thinking about doing this little upgrade.

  • GLaceyGLacey

    @Lil_Stu07 said:
    The Keystep 37 has pretty low consumption. I have to put my power banks into low power mode to use it. Seems to take about as much ~power as an apple watch.

    I wanted to make a more mobile setup, so I connected a power bank and a bluetooth midi adapter to my keystep 32. It’s working perfectly. However by the time it turned out that it’s easier to connect the iPad and the keystep simply with a USB cable (no power bank, no wireless midi)
    Carrying the keystep with the powerbank and the midi adapter attached was inconvenient to me. Furthermore each time I started the AUM I had to enable the bluetooth midi input in the settings.
    Said that I don’t want to talk anyone out to use such setup, I just wanted to share my experience.

  • circledsquarecircledsquare
    edited August 2022

    @rs2000 said:
    BTW if anyone knows a mini size keyboard with well controllable aftertouch pressure, I'd be more than happy to know!

    Hydrasynth Explorer? (disclaimer: haven't seen one in the real world yet, but thinking about getting one in October when I am back in Munich)

  • rs2000rs2000
    edited August 2022

    @circledsquare said:

    @rs2000 said:
    BTW if anyone knows a mini size keyboard with well controllable aftertouch pressure, I'd be more than happy to know!

    Hydrasynth Explorer? (disclaimer: haven't seen one in the real world yet, but thinking about getting one in October when I am back in Munich)

    Wow. Poly aftertouch.
    Thanks for your suggestion!

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    @GLacey said:

    @Lil_Stu07 said:
    The Keystep 37 has pretty low consumption. I have to put my power banks into low power mode to use it. Seems to take about as much ~power as an apple watch.

    I wanted to make a more mobile setup, so I connected a power bank and a bluetooth midi adapter to my keystep 32. It’s working perfectly. However by the time it turned out that it’s easier to connect the iPad and the keystep simply with a USB cable (no power bank, no wireless midi)
    Carrying the keystep with the powerbank and the midi adapter attached was inconvenient to me. Furthermore each time I started the AUM I had to enable the bluetooth midi input in the settings.
    Said that I don’t want to talk anyone out to use such setup, I just wanted to share my experience.

    The keystep was really turning my head but then realised it can’t be battery powered. Back to xkey air I think

  • gregsmithgregsmith

    https://www.cme-pro.com/swidi-bluetooth-midi-controller-keyboard/

    This also looks pretty sweet

  • fxdfxdfxdfxd

    I had one, the keyboard was probably the nicest of all mini keys I owned/tried :)

    -fx

    @circledsquare said:

    @rs2000 said:
    BTW if anyone knows a mini size keyboard with well controllable aftertouch pressure, I'd be more than happy to know!

    Hydrasynth Explorer? (disclaimer: haven't seen one in the real world yet, but thinking about getting one in October when I am back in Munich)

  • wwswws

    I am torn between the CME and the new Qunexus myself for a small 25 key controller for travel.

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    @wws said:
    I am torn between the CME and the new Qunexus myself for a small 25 key controller for travel.

    QuNexus is pretty cool, only killer MPE feature missing is slide.

  • Lil_Stu07Lil_Stu07
    edited August 2022

    @circledsquare said:
    Hydrasynth Explorer? (disclaimer: haven't seen one in the real world yet, but thinking about getting one in October when I am back in Munich)

    Yeah I'm thinking about getting one in a couple months. That poly aftertouch has me. Plus the keys are semi weighted and seems to be the best mini synth to date.

    The Modal Cobalt 5s is really nice too. Has 16 endless encoders and multiple modes. So lots of CC values and you can turn local control off and have it as a straight midi controller.

  • circledsquarecircledsquare

    @Lil_Stu07 said:

    Yeah I'm thinking about getting one in a couple months. That poly aftertouch has me. Plus the keys are semi weighted and seems to be the best mini synth to date.

    The Modal Cobalt 5s is really nice too. Has 16 endless encoders and multiple modes. So lots of CC values and you can turn local control off and have it as a straight midi controller.

    I think 5 notes of polyphony is too little, but otherwise would be interested in this as well.

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