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  • @McD said:
    @Lady_App_titude has a rule: buy something and make something before you buy anything else.

    Close, but not exactly. Mainly the rule is just if you buy something, TRY to use it in a project at least once, even if it is just something really short. It doesn't really keep me from buying something else, but I try to go through my 500+ plugins and try things I've never used before. Using it in an actual track is the best way to learn it. (I'm sure I've got well over 100 plugins I've never used!)

  • If you're looking to spend a shitload of money to learn, this book is amazing.

    https://www.amazon.com/Sound-Synthesis-Sampling-Third-Technology/dp/0240521056/ref=sr_1_10?crid=31LY0EXQYGQ59&keywords=sound+synthesis&qid=1662265066&sprefix=sound+synthesis,aps,88&sr=8-10

    This is how I learned sound synthesis beyond what I learned in college. I really should dust it off and reread it myself to see what I might've forgotten over the years.

  • @McD said:
    KQ Dixie is a Yamaha DX7 implementation that can upload Yamaha presets from the 90’s. Don’t ask how it works. Just keep picking favorite presets you like.

    FM synthesis is some deep voodoo but can make great bells.

    For me WaveTables are the top of the pyramid. They tend to produce sounds that morph over time which is like turning analog synth knobs all at one in repeatable ways.
    Nave seems to be my fav.
    Korg iWaveStation is epic.

    For me sound design is like trying to enjoy watching grass grow. It takes patience and the ability to appreciate when the results are getting better and not just different. Thankfully we have @Spidericemidas to do the hard work and we get to eat the cakes he gives away: Continua with his patches/presets is one of my favorites.

    The Brambos “Mononoke”Is in a class of its own and based on some specific piece of hardware everyone wants.

    But dig in if you have the right temperament to dial in the right sonic garden.
    Try and out do the greats.

    Oscillators are just the gateway drug. 50 years of innovations followed Robert Moog’s creation called the synthesizer.

    This world is made of smaller nested worlds. “It’s turtles all the way down”. Google for context.

    I’m getting some very interesting and pleasing hybrid results out of Nambu. But I’m going to have to do some research specifically on FM constructs in search of the famous bell and keys sounds from things like the DX7. @Paulo164 has just demonstrated some really beautiful plucks and flute sounds with Nambu. And what @onkey did with the Kawai presets in Addstation was brilliant. I’m going in search of some FM templates to try replicating in Nambu.

  • @magnusovi said:
    You guys really helped me with the explanations and comments that I stopped caring so much about using presets and effects like magic dice. I felt like it was kinda cheating a little, but after reading the comments I now feel that as long as I like the sound it doesn’t matter how I got them. As long as it’s not stealing someone else’s work or claiming to have designed them from the ground up of course. It also helped me feel less afraid of messing with the synths. Here is something that I made last night inspired by the comments.

    That was great. Reminded me of Zinovieff’s early experiments. Keep up those sonic explorations! 😃👍

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    If you're looking to spend a shitload of money to learn, this book is amazing.

    https://www.amazon.com/Sound-Synthesis-Sampling-Third-Technology/dp/0240521056/ref=sr_1_10?crid=31LY0EXQYGQ59&keywords=sound+synthesis&qid=1662265066&sprefix=sound+synthesis,aps,88&sr=8-10

    This is how I learned sound synthesis beyond what I learned in college. I really should dust it off and reread it myself to see what I might've forgotten over the years.

    I will most def have to get the used edition hehe. Thanks!

    @Spidericemidas said:

    @magnusovi said:
    You guys really helped me with the explanations and comments that I stopped caring so much about using presets and effects like magic dice. I felt like it was kinda cheating a little, but after reading the comments I now feel that as long as I like the sound it doesn’t matter how I got them. As long as it’s not stealing someone else’s work or claiming to have designed them from the ground up of course. It also helped me feel less afraid of messing with the synths. Here is something that I made last night inspired by the comments.

    That was great. Reminded me of Zinovieff’s early experiments. Keep up those sonic explorations! 😃👍

    This coming from you means so much to me. Thanks for checking it out! ✌🏼

  • @magnusovi said:

    @StudioES said:

    @magnusovi said:

    @StudioES said:

    @magnusovi said:
    You guys really helped me with the explanations and comments that I stopped caring so much about using presets and effects like magic dice. I felt like it was kinda cheating a little, but after reading the comments I now feel that as long as I like the sound it doesn’t matter how I got them. As long as it’s not stealing someone else’s work or claiming to have designed them from the ground up of course. It also helped me feel less afraid of messing with the synths. Here is something that I made last night inspired by the comments.

    That sounds pleasant. Don't worry about cheating, just think of those 'cheats' as your secret weapons.

    Thanks man. I just always felt like music had to be done some sort of way to be authentic but now all that is changing. I am starting to believe authenticity has more to do with intention rather than perspective. I’ve always been afraid of being judged and this forum is literally helping me spread my wings lol. It’s been liberating, personal, and kinda crazy for me. Anyways thanks for checking my video out!

    "I am starting to believe authenticity has more to do with intention rather than perspective".

    I think it's a mix of both intention, perspective, and a bunch of other things. It's like what's in your head and what's going on around you. I too never posted anything here, but finally did today.

    What do you do with all of your AUM stems/recordings?

    I have to check out your post. Lately I feel like this forum is like having access to a bunch of exclusive encores. So much cool stuff going on.

    The AUM files I have are pretty much in a folder called “test” with 13 files called Test 1 - Test 12 with one of them having a b version. I have posted a bunch of them on YouTube and also here. I see them as part of my journey in mastering the tools that will allow me to share what’s in my mind with others.

    That sounds like a good way to organize them. The file names are long (I should rename them first). I'm still trying to find a way to better organize them.

  • Pick a relatively simple subtractive synth that you like, and get to know it thoroughly. Get to understand each control, what it is doing and how it affects the sound. Then how they work together to shape something. Once you understand one synth well, you can apply that to most other synths.

  • @PhilW said:
    Pick a relatively simple subtractive synth that you like, and get to know it thoroughly. Get to understand each control, what it is doing and how it affects the sound. Then how they work together to shape something. Once you understand one synth well, you can apply that to most other synths.

    What are some of the good subtractive synths in iOS you would recommend?

    @StudioES said:

    @magnusovi said:

    @StudioES said:

    @magnusovi said:

    @StudioES said:

    @magnusovi said:
    You guys really helped me with the explanations and comments that I stopped caring so much about using presets and effects like magic dice. I felt like it was kinda cheating a little, but after reading the comments I now feel that as long as I like the sound it doesn’t matter how I got them. As long as it’s not stealing someone else’s work or claiming to have designed them from the ground up of course. It also helped me feel less afraid of messing with the synths. Here is something that I made last night inspired by the comments.

    That sounds pleasant. Don't worry about cheating, just think of those 'cheats' as your secret weapons.

    Thanks man. I just always felt like music had to be done some sort of way to be authentic but now all that is changing. I am starting to believe authenticity has more to do with intention rather than perspective. I’ve always been afraid of being judged and this forum is literally helping me spread my wings lol. It’s been liberating, personal, and kinda crazy for me. Anyways thanks for checking my video out!

    "I am starting to believe authenticity has more to do with intention rather than perspective".

    I think it's a mix of both intention, perspective, and a bunch of other things. It's like what's in your head and what's going on around you. I too never posted anything here, but finally did today.

    What do you do with all of your AUM stems/recordings?

    I have to check out your post. Lately I feel like this forum is like having access to a bunch of exclusive encores. So much cool stuff going on.

    The AUM files I have are pretty much in a folder called “test” with 13 files called Test 1 - Test 12 with one of them having a b version. I have posted a bunch of them on YouTube and also here. I see them as part of my journey in mastering the tools that will allow me to share what’s in my mind with others.

    That sounds like a good way to organize them. The file names are long (I should rename them first). I'm still trying to find a way to better organize them.

    Lately I have been also been saving “sound clips” I make with apps like Beatcutter and spacecraft, and those I have been managing through Audioshare. Simply because I bought it, I keep reading that the current native file system is more than adequate but I already committed lol. Anyways, those files I keep them in Audioshare with the same type of names, audio test 1…. And on. I Delete the ones I used and were truly just tests. Keep the ones I think might one day be useful.

    The only problem with that method is that I can’t readily find something based on the names. I think my next step will be to come up with a better system. For now, since I feel my music is super noobish, the name test is ok. 😂

  • @magnusovi I can recommend Zeeon.
    It sounds great, has tasty inbuilt effects and is easy to use while still flexible enough if at some point you like to add modulations to greatly enhance your sounds.

  • @rs2000 said:
    @magnusovi I can recommend Zeeon.
    It sounds great, has tasty inbuilt effects and is easy to use while still flexible enough if at some point you like to add modulations to greatly enhance your sounds.

    I missed the saleeeeeeee agghhhh lol. Thanks for the recommendation!

  • @magnusovi said:

    @rs2000 said:
    @magnusovi I can recommend Zeeon.
    It sounds great, has tasty inbuilt effects and is easy to use while still flexible enough if at some point you like to add modulations to greatly enhance your sounds.

    I missed the saleeeeeeee agghhhh lol. Thanks for the recommendation!

    Check out Viking Synth. A fantastic free Minimoog clone.

  • @magnusovi said:

    @rs2000 said:
    @magnusovi I can recommend Zeeon.
    It sounds great, has tasty inbuilt effects and is easy to use while still flexible enough if at some point you like to add modulations to greatly enhance your sounds.

    I missed the saleeeeeeee agghhhh lol. Thanks for the recommendation!

    Yep, Zeeon. Easy to get started on and can grow with you as you learn more.

    Primer synth by Syntorial is FREE and designed for beginners. There's an IAP for lessons if you're prepared to pay (but you still have the full synth if you don't want to pursue the IAP). It also has a forum where they discuss sound design in detail.

    The recent Krill synth is very straightforward too, but seems quite expensive in comparison to most other similar synths available.

    The TAL-U-NO-LX is another very simple one, and has great sound.

  • @Spidericemidas said:

    @magnusovi said:

    @rs2000 said:
    @magnusovi I can recommend Zeeon.
    It sounds great, has tasty inbuilt effects and is easy to use while still flexible enough if at some point you like to add modulations to greatly enhance your sounds.

    I missed the saleeeeeeee agghhhh lol. Thanks for the recommendation!

    Yep, Zeeon. Easy to get started on and can grow with you as you learn more.

    Primer synth by Syntorial is FREE and designed for beginners. There's an IAP for lessons if you're prepared to pay (but you still have the full synth if you don't want to pursue the IAP). It also has a forum where they discuss sound design in detail.

    The recent Krill synth is very straightforward too, but seems quite expensive in comparison to most other similar synths available.

    The TAL-U-NO-LX is another very simple one, and has great sound.

    Syntorial was going to be my recommendation as well.

  • Primer / Syntorial is cool (although I have had preset refresh issues when GB loads in recent months).
    It can make some surprisingly powerful sounds. I'm no Spider but I did manage to create this:

    (Sounds better with Blackhole reverb, but what doesn't)

  • I got the synth and now I am going to save for the classes! Thanks for tips!

  • @magnusovi said:

    @StudioES said:

    @magnusovi said:
    You guys really helped me with the explanations and comments that I stopped caring so much about using presets and effects like magic dice. I felt like it was kinda cheating a little, but after reading the comments I now feel that as long as I like the sound it doesn’t matter how I got them. As long as it’s not stealing someone else’s work or claiming to have designed them from the ground up of course. It also helped me feel less afraid of messing with the synths. Here is something that I made last night inspired by the comments.

    That sounds pleasant. Don't worry about cheating, just think of those 'cheats' as your secret weapons.

    Thanks man. I just always felt like music had to be done some sort of way to be authentic but now all that is changing. I am starting to believe authenticity has more to do with intention rather than perspective. I’ve always been afraid of being judged and this forum is literally helping me spread my wings lol. It’s been liberating, personal, and kinda crazy for me. Anyways thanks for checking my video out!

    That’s great, I had that revelation, and it’s liberating. Especially in terms of creativity.

  • @Poppadocrock said:
    The free ableton web course is great. Interactive.

    Link to the start.

    https://learningsynths.ableton.com/

  • Glassy tones - Cube 2, AddStation
    Metallic tones - Omega
    Bright and brassy tones - Alpha
    90s sounds - Sunrizer
    Vintage analog sounds - Zeeon, Kauldron, RT VA Mono and Poly, Model D, Model 15
    "Cybernetic" tones - Animoog Z
    Soft and mellow sounds - Lagrange, TAL UNO-X, Synclavier Go!
    Modern sounds - Flowtones

  • Thank you so much guys, those last comments are sweet!! I will use the knowledge to improve!

  • edited September 2022

    @Poppadocrock said:

    @magnusovi said:

    @StudioES said:

    @magnusovi said:
    You guys really helped me with the explanations and comments that I stopped caring so much about using presets and effects like magic dice. I felt like it was kinda cheating a little, but after reading the comments I now feel that as long as I like the sound it doesn’t matter how I got them. As long as it’s not stealing someone else’s work or claiming to have designed them from the ground up of course. It also helped me feel less afraid of messing with the synths. Here is something that I made last night inspired by the comments.

    That sounds pleasant. Don't worry about cheating, just think of those 'cheats' as your secret weapons.

    Thanks man. I just always felt like music had to be done some sort of way to be authentic but now all that is changing. I am starting to believe authenticity has more to do with intention rather than perspective. I’ve always been afraid of being judged and this forum is literally helping me spread my wings lol. It’s been liberating, personal, and kinda crazy for me. Anyways thanks for checking my video out!

    That’s great, I had that revelation, and it’s liberating. Especially in terms of creativity.

    Music is a world of its own, I am starting to live itmore and more! Also, Thanks for being such a big part of this community man, most of my synths are purchased cuz of you😂😂

  • It definitely is.

    Cheers @magnusovi I appreciate that vote of confidence. it’s been a great place for me over the years, so I try to do what I can to give some back.

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