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@tja : While some people find Auria reliable, there are many that find it unreliable unfortunately...even using fairly minimal numbers of AUv3 that are reliable in other hosts. It is great that it works well for you, but be aware that for many it sadly is reliable until it isn't and it has the unfortunate problem that for those with problems, sessions can become unopenable.
I have stuck with it because it has some critical features nothing else does, but I use it less than I used to because of the number of times I have lost projects.
Exactly.
Happy if it work well for some guys here. It was the most pro Daw on iOS I saw when I bought it.
It was to try I haven’t invest in any IAP. Have no bad feelings just that I clip more on Cubasis3 on iOS. And with LP4i on so little sub Auria Pro is still a choice ??
The thing is that it might be stable for you. For some people it is. And my sense is that for those people that find it stable, they imagine that those who find it unstable are either pushing it hard or using poorly-behaved AUv3s. But that seems not to be the case.
My sense is that the income from it is so poor that the developer, understandably, won't put in the time to look into bugs that aren't easily reproducible.
What I liked the most in Auria Pro was the feeling to work with a big analog studio mixer , I never had this pleasure with Cubasis 3 or even Logic Pro. It was really done for recording , mixing and mastering.
i guess it’s abandoned in the sense i abandoned it.
my story w/it briefly is that my devices couldn’t keep up with the cpu load, so id buy the next level device until the instability settled down, then midi was added then i had to upgrade to keep up with the cpu load. bought into the entirety of IAPs
loved Twin 2, (and the ton of desktop presets i could install) loved that i could load and run a massive EXS piano. AP would crash occasionally at heartbreakimg moments.
Not related to the piano, opening projects usually
i had a sneaky feeling that the crashes were actually user error
found other DAWs to be faster to work in (this is a me thing) and wanted to try Logic Pro, and needed space. but everytime i read a thread like this about an old sweetheart i want her back, and sometimes i do boomerang back to her.
Rim shouldve put in a tip jar way back when
You ain’t no shit about the developer of Auria Pro…
And, as several others said earlier, Auria Pro works pretty well in present state, so, don’t throw shit on Auria Pro without reason…
I’m one of several users here that bought Auria already 2012, and later upgraded to Auria Pro, together with that bought all IAP (a lot of cash for everything) - I’m not sorry for that even I’ve moved to Logic Pro for now…
I love Auria 😊
You focus really on me not a bit to much but you got psychological problems so ai will no blame you.
Read at least also the good thing I tell on Auria Pro.
my story i guess. I used auria and cubasis extensively back in the days but at some point i just gave up on most that ios has to offer and bought an M1 macbook (to replace my VERY old macbook). I was just burned out from all this “unpredictable situations“ on ios and the constant workarrounds. It was a nice ride though. I was upset about logic being sub only but now that i think about, how much money i sunk into auria to get most of the plugins…
But It was SO far ahead with all fabfilter,psp etc.
Thanks so much for this. Once I have a project saved in this way to Dropbox using the Files appp browser, though, how should I open that project? I don’t see any other way to open it aside from the direct Dropbox integration. This does work for me (well, most of the time….other times it crashes) but perhaps there is some other way I am missing (involving the Files app)-?
Unlike Auria, MultitrackStudio is extremely stable and never crashes for me, but its lack of a conventional timeline is weird and surely off-putting for many people. I like MTS a lot, it’s actually my favorite iOS DAW, but sometimes you really want that timeline. This often leads me back to Auria.
I have lost projects and had a lot of stabitity issues in Auria pro. That is why I’m very reluctant to use Auria Pro again.
But it has the video viewer that is synced with the timeline. THAT is an extremly valuable feature for me.
Copy it back to the Auria Pro projects folder. It is visible in Files app. If the project was saved as a zip, just tap it in files app to unzip
lately i wonder, yes i had gone all in with Auria Pro but what if i went back to plain old Auria, the original and maybe best iteration..
who am i kidding?
Auria will once again be the gateway drug and ill be wanting that Pro midi stuff and all the rest
Thanks for explaining this and for these helpful workarounds, I appreciate it. I wish Rim would just implement normal integrated access to the Files app. If there is another major iOS DAW that doesn’t have direct access to the Files app in 2023, I’m not aware of it.
@DanSebPage Ntrack is multi core
Years ago I spent a year on Auria Pro doing an album, I didn’t have any plugins at all (later I bought one of the fab filter ones but didn’t end up using it, I carried on using the built-in equivalent) so even with no additions or plugins at all, it just kept randomly disappearing
It was infuriating, I got the project finished with lots of interruption and damage and a general hatred of the product growing day by day, I almost destroyed my iPad throwing it against the wall more than once (unplugging it would’ve helped) and I promised I would never ever use it again, and I never have
The point is, I had no plugins (most of the time) and it simply disappears randomly, but if I remember correctly, the times when it disappears are the moment when I touch the screen (doesn’t matter where) – it’s always a touch that made it happen, I don’t remember it just disappearing on it’s own
Yeah, I think a lot more DAWs have taken advantage of multicore processing since I made that comment in September 2022. More info in this post I started in January https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/53678/multi-core-ios-daws-besides-cubasis-3/p1
I would like to reset the pendulum on where Auria was and were it is now. 2 or 3 years ago, Auria was a absolute crash machine.
Like other I was in the middle of a mixing a project of 10 songs and I rage quit and bought all the software I needed to do the mixing job on desktop. Was it frustrating ? Absolutely !!! Did I loose a ton of work ? You bet !!!
Since then 10 updates have came out and many of those bugs have been fixed. Many of us are currently using Auria to complete successfull projects.
Now before you start yelling at me. Let me tell you what I do and use. If you use or do anything else I have no idea what your experience is like.
I use Auria for mixing thru busses, aux and I automate. I use the PSP master strip, IK Mixbox and Tonebooster suite.
Why do I use Auria in 2023 ? Because for a owner of a iPad Pro 2017, Auria is the best choice for me to mix. I cannot install Logic Pro or wish to support the Subscription model.
Do I get crashes ? Rarely.
Also I understand that some people have a terrible experience in Auria and I do not deny that they do. YMMV
People's experiences in Auria are very mixed. I used it for almost ten years and rarely had any issues. I moved to Logic as soon as it became available but not because of stability issues in Auria - I just think Logic is more future-proof at this point.
Many people have reported issues with crashing and corrupted projects, but that was not my experience, for me it was pretty solid for a very long time.
I can admit, it was more reliable (for me) than cubasis for a very long time.
I’d like to give Auria another try at some point as I never felt I got my money’s worth out of it. I know you used it a lot so it would be a really useful data point if you could say which Auria features you frequently made use of and what (if any!) plugins you used with it. Were you also using it with a recent iOS version?
I’m trying to find what might be a reliable/stable set of golden path things I could do with Auria, though given what I have read in this thread then there may be some variability in behaviour introduced by something outside of what the user is doing with the app itself. I remember that last time I used it I was having trouble convincing it to use the correct sample rate. Until I finally did this then it acted very strangely, so perhaps the audio interface being used, or lack of one, is significant.
From what I have read over the years, the people who have used it most successfully seem to be primarily audio-only and used Auria towards the mixing/mastering end of the song making process.
Yes I mostly used it for mixing - tracks were generally composed and arranged in NS2, GarageBand, or Gadget unless they were guitar-based, in which case I would track the guitars in Auria and sequence the drums in NS2 (using 4pockets Multitrack Recorder to get the audio into NS2). 99% of any MIDI stuff was done outside of Auria.
When mixing in Auria I would use busses, groups and Aux channels, the native FabFilter FX and a whole host of third-party AUv3s, such as MixBox, MagicDeathEye, MagicVerb, Quantovox Spatializer, Other Desert Cities and many others.
Occasionally I would find an AUv3 that crashed Auria, so Iearnt to void those. Bleass plugins often caused problems, also occasionally some Eventide plugins too.
Great info, thanks!
as is often the case for me with this kind of thread, i redownloaded Auria Pro and am taking it out for a spin. One crash, when I added a midi track. I found a setting that prevents autoloading of instruments when loading a midi track, and havent had that crash again
strange, when i deleted Auria to make room for something else, i had the full set of Twin 2 preset bank in the app. When I redownloaded AP, the extrapresets were still there. I guess the AP data didnt delete when i offloaded the app…
its fun to play in AP though it doesnt support bluetooth audio, so no earpods.
If you go into settings there is an option for Bluetooth audio
If you are new to the iPad, Auria Pro is mo> @Littlewoodg said:
Could you please share that setting. With a picture would be helpful.