Is an app like this possible?

GeoTony

Following on from my question about connecting iPad to laptop (for MIDI) and back to iPad (for Audio)…
Would it be possible to have an app the gets loaded as e.g. an AUM Audio source and acts just like E.g. Ravenscroft or any other ‘normal’ app but behind the scenes ‘tunnels’ off and sends MIDI to a laptop or Mac and then receives the audio back in return.
Strikes me this would be incredibly elegant and useful?
Perhaps not technically possible?

[Deleted User]

I tried something like this and afaik the 'receives the audio back in return' is problematic/not possible.
The other way around (when your laptop receives audio from your ipad) is possible (IDAM-wise).
Maybe a solution can be found using another audio-interface?

[Deleted User]

I'm experimenting with this setup now.
Ipad and Macbook connected over USB/IDAM.
Macbook and iphone over bluetooth MIDI and audio via the headphonejack and a bandlab analog mini.

Works fine for recording synced audio into loopy on the iphone.

Telefunky

That‘s why I suggested the iConnectAudio interface in the other thread.
It‘s kind of challenging (sometimes hard to understand) to setup, but it does exactly this and a couple of other things.
In both directions, regardless if Win, IOS or OSX.
(as I have the old control panel running on a Mini M1, this may apply to Win10 as well)
It‘s this old control panel that enables the „magic“, not the (successor) Auracle bs.

[Deleted User]

@Telefunky said:
That‘s why I suggested the iConnectAudio interface in the other thread.
It‘s kind of challenging (sometimes hard to understand) to setup, but it does exactly this and a couple of other things.
In both directions, regardless if Win, IOS or OSX.
(as I have the old control panel running on a Mini M1, this may apply to Win10 as well)
It‘s this old control panel that enables the „magic“, not the (successor) Auracle bs.

Is this what they mean by 'loopback'?
I have a MOTU m2 but that's only one way..

GeoTony

Thanks @prtr_jan and @Telefunky … boy I didn’t expect it to be this hard… I think you are talking about what I want but I will have to go into a dark room and do some googling 😊
I think the only concern about your suggestion @Telefunky is that it is using a solution that is no longer current… Probably a perceived problem on my behalf rather than a real issue.
Interestingly I used to have a French HIFI amplifier called Devialet which provided a virtual device driver that ran on Windows and Mac and sent the audio from the computer via WI-FI to the IP address of the amp. This is more or less what I expected would be available in the music creation world.

[Deleted User]

Looking up @Telefunky ’s advice got me here, looks like a good article:
https://www.cultofmac.com/680763/iconnectaudio4-review-best-audio-interface-ipad-mac/

and

https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/45702/best-audio-interface-for-loopback/p1

ltf3

Back in the day Secret Base Design had an iOS app called Music IO which sent audio and midi to and from a Mac via USB cable and a Mac helper app. ( they also did midi only version called MIDI IO )

Alas it seems no more.

Maybe contact SBD developer? Lobby for new version?

Telefunky

@GeoTony said:
I think the only concern about your suggestion @Telefunky is that it is using a solution that is no longer current… Probably a perceived problem on my behalf rather than a real issue.

I‘m equally concerned about giving advice from an IOS 12.5 and Lightning position and few ideas about Win10 and beyond...
Some users here have great results with an iCA2/4 or even the 4c, others simply threw the towel because of it‘s (often) obscure configuration.
I never succeeded with any of the wireless solutions.

Telefunky

@prtr_jan said:
Is this what they mean by 'loopback'?
I have a MOTU m2 but that's only one way..

No, loopback is just an additional bonus.
The unique feature of these iConnectivity interfaces is their „double host“ connection.
As mentioned it‘s essentially 2 interfaces in 1 box. Both Win and IOS (or OSX) operate on the same USB audio codec chip at the same time.
The data exchange is probably a custom protocol by iConnectivity, that handles everything onboard. There‘s no perceivable latency.
I have no idea about the details, but for my applications it‘s a very useful device.
(it connects an iPad and MacMini M1 to Pro Tools via analog outs, plus controls a Casio CZ1000 by midi)

Shiloh

I have a iconnectmidi4 and have 2 iPads connected to a MacBook Pro. I’m able to do midi from all 3 devices back and forth. The same for audio. You need to understand how to route everything but it’s the best solution I have found to make this kind of setup work.