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Please help me set up Drambo as replacement for Octatrack in role of performance resampler

edited September 2022 in General App Discussion

Will try describe what i want to achieve, any advices how to set it up in drambo are welcome

  • audio comes into Drambo (from external source, via soundcard)
  • it passes through unchanged
  • in any moment i can trigger sampling (from midi hw controller, so by selected midi note)
  • sampler (i guess flexi sampler) starts record in sync from beginning of next pattern
  • when it reaches end of pattern, stops recording
  • from next pttern automatically starts loop recorded loop and mutes audio in

Additionaly, i want possibily in any given moment (again preferrably by midi note triggered from controlled) stop this looping. what happens is:

  • it ends currently played loop from next pattern
  • from next pattern it again unmutes audio in
  • it clears samoled loop, do it's ready for new round of resampling

Any advices ? Or there is other app capable to do exactly this workflow ? It's important all mus be possible to trigger from hw controlle, i don't want to tap screen during performance ;)

Big thanks for any advices !

Comments

  • edited September 2022

    What hardware controller will you be using?

    Seems like Launchpad Pro (LPP) with Drambo would be ideal.

    You can map the transport controls and Clip Arranger inside Drambo to LPP.

  • edited September 2022

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    What hardware controller will you be using?

    Seems like Launchpad Pro with Drambo would be ideal.

    doesn't matter .. at the end every midi controller when you press button just sends midi note or midi CC with certain vakue... i for this use case it's beter to sent midi note.. any midi controller works, i've not decided whixhnu use yet, but most probably something with bluetooth midi caus i want to minimalise cables ... probably ths small black thing from Korg primarily designed for Gadget

    what i need help is how to set up all this in drambo :) what hw controller i choose hat will be last think - first i need to check how it will play together in reality with my hw gear, i'm a bit afraid of latency but will see when i try it ..

  • edited September 2022

    Sorry I edited…
    You can map the transport controls and Clip Arranger inside Drambo or any controller.

  • edited September 2022

    I would suggest mapping the Add New Pattern button in Drambo, sorry figuring out pieces of your request at a time 😂

    Flexi Sampler record buttons cap be mapped too.
    Flexi can sync to Clip.

  • @Stuntman_mike said:
    Sorry I edited…
    You can map the transport controls and Clip Arranger inside Drambo or any controller.

    yes but i don't need that.. i will feed it wih midi clock from external hw which will also provide start/stop midi signals .. all i need is ability to trigger resamole as i descrbed above

  • Imo Drambo samplers aren’t immediate enough for these quick performance tricks.
    A dedicated looper module was mentioned few times to remedy this, but no known date...
    In the meantime to me it sounds like Loopy Pro (for maximum flexibility) or Koala (for simplicity and speed) are better suited.

  • I agree with @Stuntman_mike. Loopy Pro does exactly this, out of the box, and pairs super well with some hardware controllers.

    Does it have to be Drambo? If so, you can host LP inside Drambo, or vice versa.

  • edited September 2022

    @dendy said:

    @Stuntman_mike said:
    Sorry I edited…
    You can map the transport controls and Clip Arranger inside Drambo or any controller.

    yes but i don't need that.. i will feed it wih midi clock from external hw which will also provide start/stop midi signals .. all i need is ability to trigger resamole as i descrbed above

    Gotcha, sorry I’m a novice with Octatrack workflow.
    Perhaps Quantiloop, which is on sale right now or Loopy Pro or Koala as @0tolerance4silence suggested

  • edited September 2022

    But if you want a fairly simple solution in Drambo you can try this:

    • Drop Recorder module
    • select HW input to listen to
    • P-lock both REC and Play buttons on the first step of your pattern
    • midi map Clear button to your controller

    Now it will record when seq starts, on pattern cycle it will start to play back the recorded bit. When you hit Clear button on your controller it will do it again...
    Additionally you can add step condition to your p-lock (f.e you don’t want always to resample input immediately* after Clearing), by adding scene condition and assigning it to your controller as well you get control that aspect as well.

    *immediately here means on the next pattern cycle

  • @0tolerance4silence said:
    But if you want a fairly simple solution in Drambo you can try this:

    • Drop Recorder module
    • select HW input to listen to
    • P-lock both REC and Play buttons on the first step of your pattern
    • midi map Clear button to your controller

    Now it will record when seq starts, on pattern cycle it will start to play back the recorded bit. When you hit Clear button on your controller it will do it again...
    Additionally you can add step condition to your p-lock (f.e you don’t want always to resample input immediately after Clearing), by adding scene condition and assigning it to your controller as well you get control that aspect as well.

    Nice!

  • Another vote for Koala as the easiest way to do this.

  • edited September 2022

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    Imo Drambo samplers aren’t immediate enough for these quick performance tricks.
    A dedicated looper module was mentioned few times to remedy this, but no known date...
    In the meantime to me it sounds like Loopy Pro (for maximum flexibility) or Koala (for simplicity and speed) are better suited.

    Tried Loopy Pro but it's UI is absolute mess for me :-)) Simply can force myself to use it :)) I'm big Elektron addict, thats why i would preffer Drambo - this is just first step of what i want to achieve, next step are scenes/applying effects on both realtime playback/looped recording... so Drambo is perfect..

    @0tolerance4silence said:
    But if you want a fairly simple solution in Drambo you can try this:

    • Drop Recorder module
    • select HW input to listen to
    • P-lock both REC and Play buttons on the first step of your pattern
    • midi map Clear button to your controller

    Now it will record when seq starts, on pattern cycle it will start to play back the recorded bit. When you hit Clear button on your controller it will do it again...
    Additionally you can add step condition to your p-lock (f.e you don’t want always to resample input immediately* after Clearing), by adding scene condition and assigning it to your controller as well you get control that aspect as well.

    *immediately here means on the next pattern cycle

    wow yeah this sounds too good to be true :-)) thanks will try it

  • @0tolerance4silence just tried it, fucking amazing, it's even simoler than i imagined .. Drambo is king. Thanks for advice !

  • edited September 2022

    Just as a side note here...
    Guys, don’t forget about audio clip drag and drop...
    Drag to Files app to save your recordings, drag to Flexi module to manipulate it further or with proper wiring abuse it to overdub etc. :)
    Edit: or between supported apps or iPad and Mac

  • @dendy said:
    @0tolerance4silence just tried it, fucking amazing, it's even simoler than i imagined .. Drambo is king. Thanks for advice !

    On Flexi's recording page: If you set Sync = Clip, you can arm REC and it will start exactly at the bar boundary. Same if you hit it again (also on the MIDI controller): This will arm STOP and stop exactly at a bar boundary.

  • These tips are great. Thanks 0tolerance..I’ve been overthinking this for a while.

  • Golden thread.. I’ve been trying to do this in Drambo 2.

  • @jollyDodger said:
    Golden thread..

    Definitely. There is soo much knowledge on this forum !

  • @Richtowns said:
    These tips are great. Thanks 0tolerance..I’ve been overthinking this for a while.

    I started to do that after @dendy asked his initial question 😂

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