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Is there an accurate VU meter on IOS?
Having a hardest time finding an accurate VU meter. I really wish these utilities were available on IOS
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Are you looking for the rather special transient response of a VU meter, or just accurate steady-state levels?
Which iOS apps have you tried and found wanting? AUM has interesting peak/average combo meters, connectable to any channel. There are meters in miRack and NuRackFX.
Edit: Also, what is the reference VU meter to which you are comparing the inaccurate iOS ones?
AUMs meters should be very accurate, at least that was the intention
They look fancy but when you write“accurate“ a skeuomorphistic analog VU meter is not the first thing that pops into my mind 🤔
i would love to have a proper one on each channel visible all the time (not only 3 digits) 😉😇
How are you determining “proper” and “accurate”? What is the information you need but aren’t getting? AUM’s meters are quite accurate.
I think he means something more than the 3 dots displayed at the channel input and output, available on all channels at once.
In what cases would it be beneficial to see fine-grained readouts of all channels at once? (Also keeping in mind that the added granularity comes with processing costs and at the expense of display area.)
This is what the Cubasis 3 mixer screen looks like on iPhone.
I'd like a traditional styled VU meter (it's what I'm used to for monitoring) but accuracy is whats most important to me. Thanks @j_liljedahl ..I'll use AUM
Suprised of how the mobile version managed to fit all the functions of the iPad version of Cubasis but BM3 couldn't do this. I'm still salty about that
exactly @uncledave
i just prefer to have a good overview of everything thats going on at once.The three dots just don‘t cut it for me.There is a reason,why all DAWs do it,so i‘m not alone with this preference i think.No extra space needed if you put them left/right from the fader and i don‘t think processor power is a big factor here. It‘s been like this for many years in Auria or Cubasis and they have MUCH more to render then AUM.And on newer ipads it shouldn‘t be an issue at all. If someone worries about this,there is also the possibility ro make it optional (on/off switch in the settings)
Red is red is bad wether is a full meter or a dot. Also when you tap on the dots, the meter at the top is full res. You can always throw a limiter on it.
It's exactly what I want and need but will use what's available to me until a definitive VU meter comes along
NuRack FX has analog style VU meters available. I can't imagine that they would be "inaccurate" or how one would measure how accurate any iOS meter is.
It has a multi band EQ available too.
You know, there is also the free Spectrogram app from Toneboosters on iOS, which you might find helpful:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/tb-spectrogram/id1530170842
And as far as paid Toneboosters apps go, TB Barricade, TB Compressor, TB Enhancer, TB Equalizer, TB MBC (Multi-Band Compressor), TB Reverb all have VU meters built in.
From what I see AUM’s meters give a better picture of levels than NuRack VU’s.
With VU metering, the target is the "0" or to consistently hover around it. The other numbers helps to see where it holds, falls off etc. For a -18db target AUM would be the better option there
I don't understand why fake "needle" gauges are any better than anything else, but everyone has their preferences.
I'm from the old school @wim 😭😂😭 that's how I learned. Started out analog on the board, then learned the box
Yep. And why throw out all that experience? You might like to check out NuRack. You can set up your monitoring visuals any way you like. 👍🏼
Will do. Thanks 🤝
I'm probably too much "New School". 😬
In a digital DAW it makes no difference until you get to the master output where channels are peaking. There will not be clipping. It the input level to certain plugins can matter, so one does need to be sensitive to that, but that's different than channel monitoring.
To me, accuracy and hyper vigilance over levels is a waste of time and attention. Other than the master output and certain gain-sensitive plugins, all I care about is a quick glance at overall levels, and then I focus on my ears.
Gain-staging and level setting does not need to use processes developed to avoid over-saturating tape (or avoid the computational shortcomings if 16-bit integer audio). Pretty much all digital audio processing is fine with 32 or 64 bit floating point math. There is lots of dynamic range and headroom.
One need not target 0dB as the average on individual tracks. There won’t generally be a penalty for applying makeup gain on the master!if it’s needed.
One should use one’s ears to set levels rather than meters.
In analog days, getting max levels was important to keep things above tape’s inherent noise floor. We don’t have that to contend with.
This is true but it's still a utility I'd like to have for specific situations for comparison. BTW, NuRack has no options for the meters at all!!
RRS kinda nailed it but it's not on IOS 🤦🏾♂️
Besides..that not why I use a VU. I need it for my vocal bus to maintain and monitor the average volume between different points in the song. Yes, there are plugins that do this. But to the level of an Ozone on IOS..No!
With a VU meter 0 is by design aligned to the target level, hence why the RRS meter mentioned makes this a parameter.
Level is relevant for any non-linear process in a digital system and the convention for nominal level i.e. 0dBVU, while not universal, is in the region of -18dBFS. So recording at this level will make processes naturally work “right”.
I do think it would be useful for DAWs to have a track level trim parameter to make level correction trivial and not require a plug-in in the first insert slot.
nvMeter 2 is my favorite on the desktop...
https://www.tbproaudio.de/products/mvmeter2
(AUv3 version would be so sweet for the iPhone & iPad).
It can also be used to adjust the level of the track so it sits around the target level with a push of a button.
One of the reasons I need bigger meters is due to my eyesight not being what it once used to be...
This one is great!! Awesome functionality 👏🏾👏🏾