Lyricist - move onto emvoice ?

matdun25848834

Hi

So I’ve been having a lot of fun with lyricist. Published one track so far,Echoes - find in the creations area - and currently working on the next one

Definitely changes your approach writing lyrics

So although lyricist is great and works beautifully with GB IOS, I was thinking of try to get a more natural voice in the armoury - I don’t want all my tracks having a vocoder or Siri type voice

I’ve been looking at emvoice - which seems pretty good. Of course doesn’t work on IPad GB, but my thoughts were to create the track, with lyricist as per normal in GB IOS, then export as an audio track without vocals, and then import into a PC DAW which can use the emvoice VST. Use that for the vocals, and then master out ?

I don’t have a MAC , only a PC, so my thoughts were to buy Cubase elements 12 - the cheapest one they do

Any other options - that are cheaper ?

Thanks.

KirbyMumbo

I’ve been playing with synthesizer V basic which is a free vocal synth. I love emvoices sound but I can’t do always online and sending server requests for every vocal generation.

Also cakewalk is a completely free and a comprehensive daw.

matdun25848834

Thank you, didn’t know about free cakewalk. Will take a look

And the same for synthesiser v basic. Thanks again

BiancaNeve

https://www.plogue.com/products/alter-ego.html Is free too

matdun25848834

@BiancaNeve said:
https://www.plogue.com/products/alter-ego.html Is free too

thank you, another one to take a look at.

BiancaNeve

Talking of singing synths, has anyone tried and succeeded in getting the vocaloid app off the Japanese App Store 🏬

If so, how, and was it any good?

matdun25848834

So installed the free cakewalk (thanks again for the recommendation, saves me £60 on cubase), and looks like it will do everything I need, and then bought "lucy" voice for EMvoice.

Definitely a different mindset required compared to using Lyricism - the key thing is understanding that each note is equivalent to a syllable, so it's a different process for a lyric to fit within a bar. Then of course although Lyricism sounds "vocodery" you can set it to sing as a Chord. So you simply set Lyricism to match your chord structure and it sounds great.

With emvoice, it sings a single note (unless you are going to pile up the instances) as a human would, so you just can't have a lyric of 5 syllables on the same note as it will sound flat, and therefore have to split the phrase and introduce some pitch note variation.

very interesting.

The track I'm working on, "No peace", has both Male (on the verse) and female (on the chorus). So i'm planning on keeping Lyricism for the male verse (it sounds vocodery, but pretty clear), and Lucy (Emvoice) on the chorus. I think once I get the hang of the workflow it will be easier - but keeping to GB on IOS, and then mastering (and entering all the lyrics bit by bit, note by note) into Cakewalk is going to slow down the process (doesn't help that my PC is a gaming PC attached to a 65" TV in the living room - maybe I need to try remote desktop!).

Then again, releasing one track a month is probably ideal rate

matdun25848834

still struggling a bit with Emvoice for the track I'm working on. Maybe it's because the version I worked on, I was so engrained as to how it sounded with Lyricism, that when I've tried to change it to Emvoice it doesn't sound right. the voice just sounds thin and a bit too high pitched and flat. Trying to bring it down an octave and it just loses total presense. I suspect I should have gone for another voice, but maybe it just needs more tweaking.

Hmm, so I might just release "no peace" with the original Lyricism vocal and write something new and basic to learn the nuances of Emvoice.