Routing KB-1 in Drambo

brgreg78

I finally picked up Drambo today. I’m trying to use KB-1 to play chord pads in Drambo and have Drambo record the MIDI. I have KB-1 successfully playing chords through Ravenscroft but I don’t understand how to record what I’m playing. I tried Googling my question and found nothing.

wim

Since Drambo can't record output from AUv3 MIDI plugins to its sequencer, you have to resort to a workaround. Description and video here:

https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=auv3_midi_recording_workarounds#drambo

Just substitute KB-1 for Snakebud and Ravenscroft for Phasemaker as used in the video.

There are other ways to do it, but the "Streambyter" method is the simplest I've found.

timelining

Drambo can’t natively record MIDI (yet), but there are some work arounds if you read through the other Drambo threads.

My preferred way - since I don’t have any MIDI routing apps that others use - is loading Drambo as an AU after the MIDI processor you want to capture and arming record (auto grow mode being enabled in the AU is usually helpful) and hitting play on “master” Drambo. Once you capture what you need, you can drag and drop the MIDI sequence from Drambo AU instance to whichever track in master Drambo.

I think this SoundForMore goes over the method (if not it’s somewhere in that playlist):

Grandbear

In this particular case, you could also use KB-1 as a standalone app instead and route it as an external controller to Drambo.

wim

@timelining said:
Drambo can’t natively record MIDI (yet), but there are some work arounds if you read through the other Drambo threads.

My preferred way - since I don’t have any MIDI routing apps that others use - is loading Drambo as an AU after the MIDI processor you want to capture and arming record (auto grow mode being enabled in the AU is usually helpful) and hitting play on “master” Drambo. Once you capture what you need, you can drag and drop the MIDI sequence from Drambo AU instance to whichever track in master Drambo.

You might want to give the process described in the post above yours a try. Steambyter is free, and this workaround requires nothing more than to have it running in the background.

The problem I found with the workaround you posted is when I recorded dragged the sequences to the host, the first notes were missed almost every time. Sometimes just the first downbeat, sometimes more. It was more work (IMO) too.

auxmux

Looks like Drambo always skips recording the first note when transport starts.

db909

@Grandbear said:
In this particular case, you could also use KB-1 as a standalone app instead and route it as an external controller to Drambo.

This is the simplest answer. And easiest. I use standalone midi controlling apps to send and record stuff to Drambo (also in standalone) all the time no problem. You just match up the midi output and input like anything else. No reason to make it complicated

wim

@auxmux said:
Looks like Drambo always skips recording the first note when transport starts.

This is true when you use the method where you record to a Drambo AUv3 instance hosted in Drambo standalone, but that isn't the case in my experience when you do it the Streambyter way.

db909

I don’t understand why you can’t just open Drambo in standalone, host your Auv3 synth in there, then open standalone midi sending apps and send the midi to trigger the synth inside Drambo. I never get any dropped notes with this either

wim

@db909 said:
I don’t understand why you can’t just open Drambo in standalone, host your Auv3 synth in there, then open standalone midi sending apps and send the midi to trigger the synth inside Drambo. I never get any dropped notes with this either

Some people prefer not to have to switch between standalone apps.

auxmux

@wim said:

@auxmux said:
Looks like Drambo always skips recording the first note when transport starts.

This is true when you use the method where you record to a Drambo AUv3 instance hosted in Drambo standalone, but that isn't the case in my experience when you do it the Streambyter way.

Actually looking at the video example with streambyter, it happened there as well. The first two notes didn't record. I also tried this in AUM with Drambo as an au and same thing. I'll post over on beepstreet, but definitely a bug. Not a big deal to manually punch two notes tho, hehe.

wim

@auxmux said:

@wim said:

@auxmux said:
Looks like Drambo always skips recording the first note when transport starts.

This is true when you use the method where you record to a Drambo AUv3 instance hosted in Drambo standalone, but that isn't the case in my experience when you do it the Streambyter way.

Actually looking at the video example with streambyter, it happened there as well. The first two notes didn't record. I also tried this in AUM with Drambo as an au and same thing. I'll post over on beepstreet, but definitely a bug. Not a big deal to manually punch two notes tho, hehe.

I believe you're incorrect about that. I made that video and did many tests of the method. There are no missing notes. The Snakebud sequence I recorded had no note on the downbeat, so it was a misleading example.

To be sure, I just re-tested with Rozeta XOX with eight simultaneous hits on every 16th note. There are no dropped notes on the downbeat or anywhere else either.

brgreg78

The simplest solution for me would be if Drambo had chord pads built in. It doesn’t, right?

cokomairena

@Grandbear said:
In this particular case, you could also use KB-1 as a standalone app instead and route it as an external controller to Drambo.

This is the way. Also both apps support split view so you can use them on the same screen atthe same time.