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Is there an auv3 that simulates effect of distance on sound?

I'd like to make something sound distant, and have a separate 'need' for a doppler type effect (like an emergency services vehicle rushing past).
I know for the distant effect I can filter out high frequencies and compress the low to make it sound 'flatter' but with my skills on eq and compressors the results aren't great.

Is there an auv3 that can do this?

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  • There’s a Distance knob in Fabfilter Pro-R which can ‘move’ the sound to the distance. It does the job pretty well, however it simulates indoor enviroments not ourdoors, or at least I did not find a setting that makes the sound outdoors.
    https://www.fabfilter.com/help/pro-r/using/maincontrols

  • I would like this too! Instant distance…seems like a no-brainer.

    I went searching for info on how to simulate distance manually, and I found this video aimed at filmmakers, but still applicable…

  • Reverb. Reduce the dry output while leaving the wet level the same. Also increase HF dampening. Adjust overall volume to taste.

  • edited November 2022

    Check out realdelayrium. There is a module with a reverb/delay that simulates distance up to one klick and an air filter. Low cpu and musical. Also has some room filters in one of the modules, I believe... Can't check right now.

    Also a couple modules that combine delay and resonators where you can place each delay in a different part of the stereo field.

  • edited November 2022

    There's a bit of a Doppler effect in this plugin for iOS:

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vintage-vibe-auv3-plugin/id1431730020

    And in this free one for desktop:

    https://www.audiopluginsforfree.com/doppler-dome/

  • There’s and app call like Virtual ANS or something, I’ll try to find the name, but app icon is dark blue/black with a bright blue and green symbol

  • edited November 2022

    Here it is, never tried it but…might do the trick for you.

    Virtual Room AU

  • @Poppadocrock said:
    Here it is, never tried it but…might do the trick for you.

    Virtual Room AU

    That one sounds good in the audio sample on the App Store, but it hasn't been updated in 5 years... might have compatibility problems?

  • Thanks all for the feedback... some great suggestions, and all new ones to me.
    Binaural location looks a bit like Pana with doppler effect and realdelayrium has a 'distance' knob:

    So I might give these two a go and try to improve my eq and filtering too.
    I've totally nailed muddy and flat sound already so hope these can inject a little interest into things... :-)

  • ... although perhaps this is the 'distance' (duration) of the delay... rather than the distance of the sound.
    I'm sure Doug has done a video on this stuff...

  • Thafknar plus a set of "distance" impulse responses. Very authentic.

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    @rs2000 said:
    Thafknar plus a set of "distance" impulse responses. Very authentic.

    Interesting!. Any responses of this type you recommend?. Free ones would be nice to try out…
    Just remembered Altispace2. It’s a convulsion reverb. Right?. Some presets sound pretty natural, more so than other traditional reverbs.

  • @belldu said:
    ... although perhaps this is the 'distance' (duration) of the delay... rather than the distance of the sound.
    I'm sure Doug has done a video on this stuff...

    The distance affects the quality of the sound simulating the actual distance and a delay that you would hear from that sound, which you can adjust with feedback to sound more like a reverb.

  • @tahiche said:

    @rs2000 said:
    Thafknar plus a set of "distance" impulse responses. Very authentic.

    Interesting!. Any responses of this type you recommend?. Free ones would be nice to try out…
    Just remembered Altispace2. It’s a convulsion reverb. Right?. Some presets sound pretty natural, more so than other traditional reverbs.

    Yes, Altispace 2 is another good one.
    Just try recording your own impulse responses!
    Clapping your hands once and recording from a distance with stereo microphones is a good start. EQ the recorded IR to your taste and remove the clap itself from the IR, then open it in thafknar or Altispace.

  • @tahiche said:

    @rs2000 said:
    Thafknar plus a set of "distance" impulse responses. Very authentic.

    Interesting!. Any responses of this type you recommend?. Free ones would be nice to try out…
    Just remembered Altispace2. It’s a convulsion reverb. Right?. Some presets sound pretty natural, more so than other traditional reverbs.

    I assume this was an autocorrect error, but a "convulsion reverb" sounds amazing. ;)

  • edited November 2022

    @NeuM said:

    @tahiche said:

    @rs2000 said:
    Thafknar plus a set of "distance" impulse responses. Very authentic.

    Interesting!. Any responses of this type you recommend?. Free ones would be nice to try out…
    Just remembered Altispace2. It’s a convulsion reverb. Right?. Some presets sound pretty natural, more so than other traditional reverbs.

    I assume this was an autocorrect error, but a "convulsion reverb" sounds amazing. ;)

    oops - new earth-shattering technology ahead ;)

  • Sounds like a job for Igor! 😂

  • @Gavinski said:
    Sounds like a job for Igor! 😂

    Oh indeed, he'll be able to generate such impulse responses mathematically if you only operate the right knobs and switches :#

  • @rs2000 said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Sounds like a job for Igor! 😂

    Oh indeed, he'll be able to generate such impulse responses mathematically if you only operate the right knobs and switches :#

    As a drambobian and mozaic-head, I'm sure it'll be a piece of cake for you. Which reminds me, I'm still waiting for someone to answer my last question in the mozaic request thread 😉

  • edited November 2022

    @Gavinski said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Sounds like a job for Igor! 😂

    Oh indeed, he'll be able to generate such impulse responses mathematically if you only operate the right knobs and switches :#

    As a drambobian and mozaic-head, I'm sure it'll be a piece of cake for you. Which reminds me, I'm still waiting for someone to answer my last question in the mozaic request thread 😉

    Well, more Drambonian than Mozart so here's a quick and simple patch that would do it:

    You can MIDI map the Switch N-1 buttons to CC, Notes or keys of an attached ASCII keyboard if you like.

    If you want it to be a Mozaic solution for some reason, I'd first go to the Mozaic section on patchstorage.com and search for "cc". Search works quite well there!

  • I've heard of this effect called a ”reverb”, but I've never seen it implemented, might be a theoretical construct of some sort.

    In all seriousness though, some of the biggest and most distant sounds I've created was using the reverb Eos on PC (also available on ios) a long time ago. I wonder what Steve Roach is using, some of his ambient music sounds like galaxy-sized distance.

  • Reverb, compression, delay. I've heard of them all too. I also marvel at Dan Worrell's videos that combine them with eq, but somehow when I try it I get flat or mud.
    Some great suggestions here which I'll try out.
    It sounds like I've found a new reverb / compressor / delay / eq use case though :-)

    Five parameters: Direction (3d), Distance, Humidity, Temperature, Wind speed.

    Let's make it easy and assume altitude is sea level and we limit ourselves to planet Earth.

    It must be possible to model sound like people do with ray tracing with light, and I'd love to see someone try. I have test flight installed already :-)

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