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Deep Blue Sky - GB IOS with vocals using EMvoice
Hi,
so this one is a pop song. I'm not ashamed 
I bought Emvision "Lucy" over a month ago. I wanted to use it for my first true vocal track "No peace" which I'd created using the superb lyricist. Unfortunately I just couldn't get the tone right - partly because the vocoded tone of Lyricist was engrained into the track from it's conception, and partly because my no Ipad setup wasn't the easiest (a gaming PC connected to a lounge TV, with me balancing a keyboard/mouse on the sofa !)
I found an old laptop and resurrected it - loaded it up with Cakewalk and installed Emvision. Created all the music in GB IOS, exported it to Cakewalk as a WAV as a backing track, then overlaid Emvision vocals, and finally extracted back the vocals into GB IOS for mastering with the individual instruments, and thickening up of some synths.
This track was created from scratch for Lucy to sing. I'm please with how it's come together especially the first verse and chorus, and I stretched me synth legs with some more unusual sounds (gritty and a bit "wowey"). I need to adjust the mix abit on the 2nd verse, although it sounds a lot clearer on headphones/good speakers.
next task is to write a happier song !!
I'm hoping that Emvision hold a Black Friday sale as I fancy trying the other female voice, and the male voice - to add to the armoury
Video was created using Microsoft Clipchamp, using clips from Pixabay - basic but pretty stable.
hope you enjoy
Comments
I enjoyed it. Good work
Very interesting vocal, indeed. And good arrangement, production, too. EMVoice is desktop, right? Would love to see that or similar on iOS.
Love this creation, matdun!
I would be proud of this work!!!
Great composition, melodious and emotive!
Wanna hear more.
Rene
@matdun25848834 : That is very interesting!I have experimented with Talker on IOS, and I’ve been looking for a way to integrate somewhat natural sounding vocals into pieces. Have you ever tried using Emvision as a speaking voice, or is it only really for singing? (I have thoughts about ‘stories with music’ as a thing..l)
thank you
Yes, EMvoice is purely desktop at the moment - however as the actual processing and generating of the "singing" takes place in the cloud - i.e. it sends your text/notes to cloud based servers and returns a sound, to me it would seem a natural fit on IOS devices, regardless of spec - although whether Apple's T&Cs would allow it on IOS ?
It's the only contentious part of EMvoice - as it's cloud, if EMvoice turn off the servers, for whatever reason, you lose the capability to use the product. The way I've reasoned it in my head, if they do that at some stage, I'll treat it as somebody leaving the band
thank you again for the great feedback. Yes, I plan to do more of these (Emvoice)- it would help if it was all IOS - and it really opens up the door for a different style of music and creation. thanks again
I think Emvoice is more melodic focused, I don;'t think it would sound right just at one tone comparing it to someone talking. For instance, in the chorus of "Deep Blue Sky", the first two lines she sings at one note, and I think it sounds great but still very "melodic". The other area that takes time, and it's still not perfect, is varying her vocal so she doesn;'t sound flat. Takes a lot more time compared to Lyricist.
I was using Lyricist before, and it used the built in "siri" voices of IOS (and from any country), and could be made to sound like it was just talking (which is probably where you want to do), but could be coded to sing chords with adjustment for how much vocoder type processing was applied.
I think i will be using both in the future, Emvoice for the more natural singing, and Lyrcist when I want more of a futuristic type of sound.
thank you
It took me quite a while to figure out that GB means Garageband.
Knowing the abbreviations of every iOS app is quite demanding. In particular the apps you are not using yourself.
I have no idea how this is done, but it is absolutely brillant.
The wonders of computer technology development. You've done a nice job with this track. It challenges my own beliefs around the creative process. I guess this is just another new gender of music of some kind (not the style necessarily, but the creation process).
yes, my bad. Automatically thinking that every IOS owner has run across Garageband as it was the "free DAW" and would therefore default to GB = Garageband
- will expand on going forward.
thank you for your very kind comment - my best feedback so far
thank you. I'm always looking to try something new and the logical move from instrumental, which I've been doing since the first lockdown on an Ipad Garageband, was to start writing some actual songs. However, my voice isn't what it once was - so even with filters/effects I'm not inflicting that on any one!
But the process away from the technology is more or less the same - create your chorus/verse chord structure, give it room for lyrics, then write the lyrics. Due to EMvoice not being IOS, for there was the added complication of shifting music between IOS and PC DAW and back again - but it wasn't overly complex.
What it did challenge me on, was whether I should be shifting fully across to a PC DAW, to enjoy VST functionality, but after years of searching, I find Garageband IOS on an Ipad is the perfect creation tool - sitting on the sofa with out mouse/keyboard, and just creating with instance audio feedback. I can stomach the shifting stuff back and forward between DAWs. I'm hoping however that EMvoice produce an IOS version of their voices.
So it’s a pop song?… it’s actually a very good pop song.
Took me a while to even work out Lucy wasn’t a real person. Excellent !
This makes me feel like how I might have felt when I was young and felt as though I had discovered something new and exciting.
THANK YOU
thank you. Looking forward to doing more creation with Lucy over the next few months
Very interesting! And impressive results.
And I’d not realised what Lyricist was until I read this thread: it may go on my wish list, which is quite short these days, as I’ve not come close to fully exploring what I already have.
yes, I was really impressed with Lyricist and it's relative ease of use in Garageband IOS.
For quickly mapping some lyrics against a tune it worked really well. The only issue I had was balancing out the vocoder vs siri sound, it' s not going to sound like an Emvoice "human singing" vocal, but it's great for "futuristic" vocals.
It sings at chord level as well which means of course it's pitch right. Nice and cheap as well and works on IOS, compared to Emvoice - but having both in the kit bag gives me some options.
Whoa! this adds a new layer of possibilities. Really enjoyed the song as well. Thanks for bringing this to attention.
thank you, yes takes a bit of work and there are limitations, but it adds another option for creation.