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OP-1F vs Flip Sampler Video (I had GAS, but not what you think...)

edited November 2022 in Other

This video made me realise how insanely feature-rich Flip Sampler is and gave me GAS for Flip Sampler!

The fact you can make loops of different lengths per sample (polymeters) and even have different lengths for automation is insane and is something I don't think Koala has yet (unless I missed something, which isn't unusual for my scattered brain. 🤣 )

So I went to purchase Flip, and it turns out I forgot I already have it. 😅 Then I remembered producing Ambient with it one time back in May. My GAS is cured and now I'm playing around with Flip Sampler. I swear, after I'm done producing my EDM album, I may make an EP or album using Flip just to see what I come up with.

EDIT: The video didn't give me GAS for the OP-1F, but I hope to score an iPhone 14 sometime next year after taxes are paid.

EDIT 2: Corrected "polyrhythms" to "polymeters". 😅 Well Flip can do both anyways lol.

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  • edited November 2022

    Props to Huang, but...isn't Flip HIS app? I found it cutesy and hamstrung. (The app, not the video or the presenter; I'm on the record here for admiring is amazing eyebrows, and I still stick by that assessment.)

    Although if you really wanted to do one of these clickbaity videos with various cheap alternatives to the High Design Scandinavian Boutique Product™, I think Koala might give the OP1 a run for its money....

  • I love Flip. Super fun and one of the easier to use grooveboxes, imo. The song mode and pattern chaining is a breeze and the UI is great.

  • Flip Sampler is a great addition to Android

  • Flip vs Koala?

    I almost bought Flip, but I already have Koala, not sure if I miss something.

  • @ExAsperis99 said:
    Props to Huang, but...isn't Flip HIS app? I found it cutesy and hamstrung. (The app, not the video or the presenter; I'm on the record here for admiring is amazing eyebrows, and I still stick by that assessment.)

    HA! Yes, he has incredible eyebrows. Not as epic as Ed Boon's (one of the creator's of Mortal Kombat) eyebrows, but yeah I agree, heh.

    Although if you really wanted to do one of these clickbaity videos with various cheap alternatives to the High Design Scandinavian Boutique Product™, I think Koala might give the OP1 a run for its money....

    Oh yes! Koala can definitely give OP-1F a true run for its money. The only thing that Koala and Flip don't have are internal synthesis engines like the OP-1F. Then again, there's FLSM if looking for a great simple all-in-one product. I really should dig back into that app despite the odd (to me personally) GUI.

    Yep, Andrew is the musical king of clickbaity thumbnails and titles, which is a bit annoying, but I like his videos well enough and am often inspired by them. Especially when he involves other producers to flip a sample.


    @HotStrange said:
    I love Flip. Super fun and one of the easier to use grooveboxes, imo. The song mode and pattern chaining is a breeze and the UI is great.

    Absolutely agreed 100%! And it has sample import as well to boot!


    @mojozart said:
    Flip Sampler is a great addition to Android

    Absolutely! If I still used an Android phone, I'd have a load of fun with Flip AND Koala both as well as Caustic 3.


    @Montreal_Music said:
    Flip vs Koala?

    I almost bought Flip, but I already have Koala, not sure if I miss something.

    Well, Flip vs OP-1F is the video. Koala can do a lot of things (a lot of things) that Flip simply cannot, including splitting stems using Spleeter, including the ability to use it as an AUv3, including the ability to extract audio from video, etc etc.

    However, Flip can do polymeters per sample as I found out from watching the video as well as polymeters for automation too! 😳🔥 And, as far as I know, Koala can't do that. And yes, the song mode and pattern chaining are a breeze in Flip as @HotStrange pointed out.

    My advice - get Flip, use both Koala and Flip. Still costs less than a frickin OP-1F.

  • @Montreal_Music said:
    Flip vs Koala?

    I almost bought Flip, but I already have Koala, not sure if I miss something.

    It all depends what you vibe with. I would not see it as an either or situation. There are lots of vids about Flip. Watch them and see if it appeals or not.

  • If one is a great finger drummer, then a sequencer that can do polyrhythms or poly meters one needs not. As a matter of fact, that one needn’t a sequencer either.

    P.S. - I am not one.

    I love watching a good Junglist on some hard kit.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @Montreal_Music said:
    Flip vs Koala?

    I almost bought Flip, but I already have Koala, not sure if I miss something.

    It all depends what you vibe with. I would not see it as an either or situation. There are lots of vids about Flip. Watch them and see if it appeals or not.

    Oddly enough, after watching those videos, Flip didn't appeal to me at all. Then in May of this year I finally bought it to challenge myself to make Ambient in it and ended up having a lot of fun. Then I forgot about Flip (or even the Ambient test I produced in it let alone the fact I have it) until I saw the above video today, and it gave me bad GAS for Flip, lol.

    Right, despite the fact I'm working on an EDM album, the past month I've started to get more into Lo-Fi Beats music as a way to relax at night while getting high. I got into Lo-Fi as a way to decompress when I was under the threat of possible eviction from my flat (I passed the follow up inspection though). It reminds me of Smooth Jazz in many respects.

    Also I'm a bit burnt out on producing EDM at the moment to be honest and feel a creative shift happening within once again. And unlike EDM, I don't need to overlimit the mix or have those nervous mids and highs (let alone much high end at all) or all that sidechaining to get arses onto the dancefloor. For Lo-Fi, just a simple gentle compression from MagicDeathEyeStereo and limiting to -14 LuFS to preserve dynamics, and voila. Instant magic.


    @Montreal_Music

    Yeah I'm high af right now, and I'm in one of my "philosophical" moods. 🤣 Bottom line - I'm challenging myself to make a Lo-Fi EP mostly entirely in Flip with the exception of mastering within AUM.

    Bottomer line - Flip and Koala are both indispensible music tools, and there's no reason not to have both. Cheers mate.

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    If one is a great finger drummer, then a sequencer that can do polyrhythms or poly meters one needs not. As a matter of fact, that one needn’t a sequencer either.

    P.S. - I am not one.

    🤣 I'm pretty great at playing piano and crafting live Ambient, but a master finger drummer I am not, lol.

    I love watching a good Junglist on some hard kit.

    Do share some videos here mate. 😃 I'm liking the direction this is heading.

  • edited November 2022

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Do share some videos here mate. 😃 I'm liking the direction this is heading.

    This one is somebody showing different polys on an amen break on their midifighter, among other stuff:

    https://www.instagram.com/tv/Ci28728q-Ol/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

    But the following guy, Spinscott, does more fluid sets. All live one-shots. No loops or post processing. He performance on various hardware too, not just the DJS-1000. MPC, ect .
    I cannot even manage doing an 8 bar loop until I get accidental retriggers on my pads, lol.

    This is just one of his many videos:

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