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Solo Trumpet by Genuine Soundware

https://apps.apple.com/app/id6443619901

Description:

GSi Solo Trumpet is a physical modeling emulation of a trumpet. This is a chapter GSi started a long time ago with one of the first plugins released to the public, then it evolved in a renovated emulation featured in the GSi Gemini, and now is here again with a new plugin.

Unlike other similar approaches to a digital recreation of a wind instrument, GSi Solo Trumpet is not meant to be necessarily controlled with a breath control or any other kind of expression controller. It can still be controlled from Midi CC messages and Channel Aftertouch, but its main purpose is to be played on a keyboard in a very natural way without being distracted by extra controllers. Solo Trumpet continuously analyzes the playing style, the use of velocity, staccato and legato, note distance and other elements in order to articulate the sound in a way that it sounds and plays natural and realistic. Features such as auto-bending, auto-vibrato and automatic expression are the key to a satisfying result and make Solo Trumpet a fun instrument to play.

Main features:

  • Includes emulation of a Trumpet (without a Mute, with Harmon Mute and Cup Mute), a Trombone and a Tuba
  • Two variations of each instrument: Warm or Shrill
  • Automatic Vibrato with adjustable average rate
  • Automatic Bending with adjustable average speed
  • Automatic Expression depending on note velocity
  • Expression can be controlled by aftertouch or Midi CC
  • Automatic glide depending on velocity and note distance
  • Alternate key feature
  • Option to bend notes using a sustain pedal
  • Adjustable manual pitch bending
  • Adjustable average note length
  • Built-in Stereo Delay effect
  • Built-in Stereo Reverb effect
  • Adjustable sensitivity to velocity and aftertouch
  • Adjustable aftertouch lag time
  • Built-in programmer with unlimited Programs
  • Embedded user's' manual
  • Available as Stand-alone App and AUv3 plugin
  • Supports IAA

Details:
Universal: No
Minimum OS version: 9.3
Rated: 0 based on 0 votes

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Comments

  • Would like to hear this compared to the SWAM Trumpet.

  • Me too. If it's based on their original VSTi many years ago then it's not comparable.

  • 😳 unexpected !
    😃 and eager to hear a demo !

  • @Paulo164 said:
    😳 unexpected !
    😃 and eager to hear a demo !

    Me too, is it mpe? If not it is hard to see how it could compete with Swam Trumpet

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Paulo164 said:
    😳 unexpected !
    😃 and eager to hear a demo !

    Me too, is it mpe? If not it is hard to see how it could compete with Swam Trumpet

    Apparently it is...

  • @Gavinski said:

    @Paulo164 said:
    😳 unexpected !
    😃 and eager to hear a demo !

    Me too, is it mpe? If not it is hard to see how it could compete with Swam Trumpet

    Except, you don´t need MPE for playing a monophonic sound source like SWAM.

  • edited November 2022

    Demos on the website sound decent, although I feel SWAM sounds more refined, which I expected with their resources. It seems like GSi’s trumpet is very expressive and responsive though!

  • @LarsDaniel said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Paulo164 said:
    😳 unexpected !
    😃 and eager to hear a demo !

    Me too, is it mpe? If not it is hard to see how it could compete with Swam Trumpet

    Except, you don´t need MPE for playing a monophonic sound source like SWAM.

    You don't but it is certainly nice to play those with a keyboard with aftertouch etc. Otherwise you need a sustain pedal, mod wheel etc, or some other system to get the most out of them. The AUM keyboard, for example, won't cut it

  • @Gavinski said:

    @LarsDaniel said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Paulo164 said:
    😳 unexpected !
    😃 and eager to hear a demo !

    Me too, is it mpe? If not it is hard to see how it could compete with Swam Trumpet

    Except, you don´t need MPE for playing a monophonic sound source like SWAM.

    You don't but it is certainly nice to play those with a keyboard with aftertouch etc. Otherwise you need a sustain pedal, mod wheel etc, or some other system to get the most out of them. The AUM keyboard, for example, won't cut it

    Aftertouch and other modulators require MPE. Nothing prevents a monophonic instrument from using standard midi to achieve the dimensions of expressivity of MPE. The MPE protocol is only needed to achieve that for polyphonic instruments.

    What you are talking about seems to be using an external controller. There’s no need for that controller to be MPE.

  • Yes - as mentioned, you can do it with a regular keyboard with sustain pedal and mod wheel / pitch bend like the Audio Modeling guys do it.

    What you are talking about seems to be using an external controller. There’s no need for that controller to be MPE.

  • Let's just frame it another way - is it as expressive as the Swam trumpet, how does the playability compare, how do they compare in terms of realism? These are the questions that matter.

  • edited November 2022

    @Gavinski said:
    Yes - as mentioned, you can do it with a regular keyboard with sustain pedal and mod wheel / pitch bend like the Audio Modeling guys do it.

    What you are talking about seems to be using an external controller. There’s no need for that controller to be MPE.

    Well, my comment was for Paolo, who was asking if the trumpet app was MPE. And my point was, that for a monophonic sound you can use your MPE controller no matter what. It was not about whether you needed an MPE controller or not.

  • Bad timing on this release, right when everybody has spent all the cash on BF deals lol p
    I’m already tapped out for now

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @LarsDaniel said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Paulo164 said:
    😳 unexpected !
    😃 and eager to hear a demo !

    Me too, is it mpe? If not it is hard to see how it could compete with Swam Trumpet

    Except, you don´t need MPE for playing a monophonic sound source like SWAM.

    You don't but it is certainly nice to play those with a keyboard with aftertouch etc. Otherwise you need a sustain pedal, mod wheel etc, or some other system to get the most out of them. The AUM keyboard, for example, won't cut it

    Aftertouch and other modulators require MPE. Nothing prevents a monophonic instrument from using standard midi to achieve the dimensions of expressivity of MPE. The MPE protocol is only needed to achieve that for polyphonic instruments.

    What you are talking about seems to be using an external controller. There’s no need for that controller to be MPE.

    I don't know if this could bring something on the table but I remember a discussion where people were wondering why Shockwave synth was "only" monophonic and the dev (Kai Aras) explained that although being monophonic, the synth was technically MPE compliant. Somebody claimed that being monophonic invalidated the "MPE compliancy" but apparently Kai was not on the same wave. Not saying that not being MPE could be limiting for a monophonic synth, I don't know in fact...

  • @Paulo164 said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @LarsDaniel said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Paulo164 said:
    😳 unexpected !
    😃 and eager to hear a demo !

    Me too, is it mpe? If not it is hard to see how it could compete with Swam Trumpet

    Except, you don´t need MPE for playing a monophonic sound source like SWAM.

    You don't but it is certainly nice to play those with a keyboard with aftertouch etc. Otherwise you need a sustain pedal, mod wheel etc, or some other system to get the most out of them. The AUM keyboard, for example, won't cut it

    Aftertouch and other modulators require MPE. Nothing prevents a monophonic instrument from using standard midi to achieve the dimensions of expressivity of MPE. The MPE protocol is only needed to achieve that for polyphonic instruments.

    What you are talking about seems to be using an external controller. There’s no need for that controller to be MPE.

    I don't know if this could bring something on the table but I remember a discussion where people were wondering why Shockwave synth was "only" monophonic and the dev (Kai Aras) explained that although being monophonic, the synth was technically MPE compliant. Somebody claimed that being monophonic invalidated the "MPE compliancy" but apparently Kai was not on the same wave. Not saying that not being MPE could be limiting for a monophonic synth, I don't know in fact...

    MPE compliant for a mono synth probably means that it uses the MPE conventional CC mappings AND does not use channel 1 for notes. It varies from developer to developer what they mean by that. That isn't at odds with monophonic instruments being able to achieve all the expressive capabilities of MPE with a standard MIDI controller.

  • I was hoping the Clav would be the next release. I’m so satisfied with the trumpet in GeoShred that idk if I’ll grab this one

  • @Fingolfinzz said:
    I was hoping the Clav would be the next release. I’m so satisfied with the trumpet in GeoShred that idk if I’ll grab this one

    I thought "Mini Orchestra" was next 🤦🏾‍♂️ this dev got too many apps in the oven

  • @LarsDaniel said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @Paulo164 said:
    😳 unexpected !
    😃 and eager to hear a demo !

    Me too, is it mpe? If not it is hard to see how it could compete with Swam Trumpet

    Except, you don´t need MPE for playing a monophonic sound source like SWAM.

    Yeah. You do need the full pitch bend range though.

  • Looking forward to a good review. I have the SWAM trumpets and they are very, very good at exactly the same price (on sale).

  • @LarsDaniel said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Yes - as mentioned, you can do it with a regular keyboard with sustain pedal and mod wheel / pitch bend like the Audio Modeling guys do it.

    What you are talking about seems to be using an external controller. There’s no need for that controller to be MPE.

    Well, my comment was for Paolo, who was asking if the trumpet app was MPE. And my point was, that for a monophonic sound you can use your MPE controller no matter what. It was not about whether you needed an MPE controller or not.

    Ah OK.... Yeah the dangers of the AB tagging system lol... I thought that message was for me, cheers

  • @ninobeatz said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    I was hoping the Clav would be the next release. I’m so satisfied with the trumpet in GeoShred that idk if I’ll grab this one

    I thought "Mini Orchestra" was next 🤦🏾‍♂️ this dev got too many apps in the oven

    Yep...too many apps coming out in such a short time frame at a higher than usual price for iOS and with highly variable quality in the UI... It's an odd marketing strategy indeed and makes me worry a little how sustainable these will be and whether they'll still be here in a year or two.

  • edited November 2022

    @Gavinski said:

    @ninobeatz said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    I was hoping the Clav would be the next release. I’m so satisfied with the trumpet in GeoShred that idk if I’ll grab this one

    I thought "Mini Orchestra" was next 🤦🏾‍♂️ this dev got too many apps in the oven

    Yep...too many apps coming out in such a short time frame at a higher than usual price for iOS and with highly variable quality in the UI... It's an odd marketing strategy indeed and makes me worry a little how sustainable these will be and whether they'll still be here in a year or two.

    Maybe his hardware sales and service pays the bills and software sales are a bonus? In addition, maybe his coding is super efficient… 🤷🏽 heck I wonder if we are all paying beta testers for the software in his hardware… 😂

    For example:
    “The Crumar Mojo becomes a Classic. New look, new DSP platform, same great sound and portability. Officially powered by the most acclaimed GSi VB3-II tonewheel emulation, also available as a virtual instrument, the new Mojo is the ultimate portable clonewheel organ for the most dmanding musician. It's elegant and easy to use, easy to transport and, most importantly, feels real.”

    I would imagine more users improves his products exponentially, so utilizing desktop and mobile users not only refines products but helps develop new ones, hardware included - I’m sure this Trumpet will find its way into one of their keyboards soon, especially the fact the emphasize the focus on using keys to play it 😉

  • lol the video doesn't feature the actual trumpet sound, just a crappy orchestra from a playstation2 or similiar.

  • Worst video ever haha. The interface looks quite interesting though.

  • But its also a trombone and a tuba? Intrigued to hear it, as that video has done it no favours at all.

  • The website has some examples of the sound towards the bottom of this page…
    https://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=56

  • @Gavinski said:

    Worst video ever haha. The interface looks quite interesting though.

    😂

  • No worries SWAM.

  • There still isn't a single review of this app anywhere (that I can find). It is definitely flying under the radar. I own and really like other GSi apps (VB3m and Electrorchestra) and I am interested in this app too. I am really interested to know if it supports polyphony and if it supports polyphonic aftertouch (or just channel aftertouch).

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