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integration ios and desktop. how do you?
So i am a bit lost. i’ve been trying to find a seamless rout my audio out my ios apps and back in to my daw to record on track.
This used to be very simple with my old iconnect midi 2+ interface. but it became outdated and no longer works. I could upgrade to a new audio connect interface. but I wonder is there a better interface out there?
what do you guys use to send audio back and forth between ipad and desktop?
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Hmm…maybe I’m missing something but couldn’t you just use Airdrop (or Google Drive, Dropbox, etc…)? Bounce the files down on iOS and Airdrop them to your computer? And then vice versa if you want to go from computer back to iOS.
Do you need an audio interface for your specific purpose?
well basically i’m trying to use the apps the same way you would use fx plugins. so I could be playing, let’s say a synth on my desktop, and then send that audio out to my ipad. into AUM, and have maybe a delay, and a saturation effect. then back into my desktop to be recorded it all to an audio track. all i. real-time.
The iconnect used to be a perfect way to do this, I may just have to get one of those again.
Id like to know that as well. I’m trying to find a practical way to stream audio back and forth between iPad and pc.
With Mac there’s an apple integrated audio via usb option as far as I know
Ahh, ok. That makes sense. I hope your DAW has hardware delay compensation because otherwise you’ll probably run into an annoying amount of latency. What’s your budget for a new audio interface?
On my Mac I use an audio interface with ADAT. My iPad interface is a USBStreamer B. This gives me 8 channels both ways.
Wow! I’ve been looking for a stripped-down audio interface without tons of physical input ports. Do you know of anything like this with USB out (rather than ADAT or TOSLINK)? Looking for something that can send high quality multichannel audio recordings from my iPad to my macbook. Like IDAM but for more than just 2channel stereo.
i’d say $350-$400 is my budget
Adat? what is the interface ?
Could you elaborate ? Very interesting!
Sorry for the delayed response.
My main audio interface is a motu 828es, but I don't think there is anything unique about it's ADAT capabilities in this use case compared to other interfaces. A quick look around and I see you can get a Behringer umc1820 for $239, probably works, or a Focusrite 18i20 2nd gen costs about $350. I'm guessing there are better deals out there too.
ADAT is great though. With a pair of toslink cables you get 8 separate channels in and out and can access them individually in AUM, for example, on the iPad and as channels in Bitwig or Live or whatever on your computer. Route anything anywhere.
The USBStreamer is super compact, reliable, and latency seems super low, I've never noticed any at least.
This was the best option I could find. I'm not aware of anything similar over USB.
I hope this helps. I'm happy to answer any other questions! My response time might be slow though
Many thanks
So> @kawsy_ said:
im sorry i’m having trouble picturing how things are connected.. can you explain how everything is connected to the ipad and computer? Tons like cable? is that the optical cable?
is the motu interface connected to the computer or ipad?
and is the usb streamer another interface? is it a lighting cable?
i love the idea of so many channels routing back and forth this could be cool. thanks so much for helping
The motu is connected to my computer via usb and the usbstreamer to the iPad also via usb. The usbstreamer and motu are connected by a pair of toslink optical cables. Each toslink cable carries 8 channels in one direction. The motu is connected to my speakers, headphones, other gear.
Yes, the usbstreamer is an audio interface, but with only ADAT IO via the toslink pair. Depending on your iPad you may also need the camera connection kit usb<->lightning adapter.
Lewitt Connect 6 interface looks promising, offering desktop / iOS simultaneous connectivity. I've not seen any real world reviews from any ABF type users yet though.
EDIT: I'm still using Studiomux, but it seems it doesn't have much of a future.
Another quick note. If you go this route, you'll need to configure the usbstreamer on your computer first so that its in this ADAT mode. The details on this are in the docs. I didn't realize this and thought mine was broken at first. This is a one time step only.
You'll probably also want to think about midi between the iPad and computer as well for tempo sync at a minimum. Happy to answer questions about that too if you want.
@steve99 that Lewitt looks like a really neat solution. Looking at the mixer and description though, "I think" it's stereo only to and from the mobile device. Regardless if it's drivers and hardware are good quality, it looks like the perfect alternative to studiomux and idam!
The iConnectivity Audio4C (used to be called iConnectAudio4+ and is now updated with usb C so easier with newer iPads) has quite nice features if you look at it… and the conversion is pretty good too. Not the best mic preamps if you compare them to proper hardware but it still does the job. I used it a lot as an interface between Mac/PC and iOS devices, less these days because it is still a bit of a hassle to setup and you are still dealing with latency etc… but MIDI and audio in AND out is pretty good, also the fact that you can route audio outputs to the same jacks or split it!
@mrvenceslas that looks like a fantastic device especially since it does midi too!
this is ex> @kawsy_ said:
extremely helpful. thank you and also thanks for that tip on the usb streamer. i probably would have done the same thing. lol. now i am just gonna have to decide between the adat route or the i connect audio route. thanks for your help
i actually tried this one but sent it back. the audio quality out of the headphones was very quite. and the routing software was a bit frustrating.
If you don't need more that 4 mono / 2 stereo channels, I'd personally go the iconnect route, way cleaner, also cheaper. With the usbstreamer route, you get 8 mono / 4 stereo channels, but you need: the usbstreamer, audio interface with ADAT for the PC, midi interface for the iPad, powered USB hub, and cables.
If you don't need low-latency (such as live fx processing) , then check the free Sonobus app for streaming via ethernet
https://sonobus.net/index.html#
Ah - that’s a shame - did you manage to get audio (and midi?) going both ways though? Frustrating software is nothing new in this game
yep ADAT looks cool. sand i might try it some
day. but i decided to go the iconn the Udio route and keep it simple. i ordered one yesterday.