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And now AI is coming for the writers too…

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  • edited December 2022

    @senhorlampada … and then you can tweak the spoken words through the (free) Music Putty app

    https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/musicputty-pitch-editor/id6444390100

    to make it sing them! Interesting experiment. :)

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  • @tja said:

    @NeuM said:
    Rest assured, writers won't be the only ones to see their careers wane. Literally any profession which can be digitized and analyzed by machine learning systems will see careers replaced by these systems. This includes doctors, lawyers, architects, people in sales... like I say, anything which can be digitized will be replaced with superior solutions because they'll be able to iterate hundreds, thousands or millions of variations to find the optimal solutions.

    That's the agenda of the World Economic Forum (WEF), set in place around 1971 and the predecessors from even earlier.

    Platform economy, digital money and total control.

    That!

  • One very likely outcome of all this anyone-can-churn-out-pages-of-content-with-zero-effort AI-driven tech is that the amount of spam on the internet is about to get exponentially larger. Welcome to a world where you waste time reading tediously long (and factually questionable) articles on every topic under the sun as content-generators saturate search results with spam in order to get advertising clicks. Isn't technology awesome?

  • And when the floodgates really open, and AI content becomes commonplace, the AI model will then be learning from itself like a snake eating its own tail. 🐍

  • @CapnWillie said:
    Jasper.ai is years old and a much better writing Ai than the examples I’ve seen here. It’s used by professional journalist to marketing pros.

    It’s creepy indeed, especially to those of us who earned the life they enjoy from drawing ideas from our imagination before pouring them into pages in the form of expressive stories. In my case rap/song lyrics and later marketing/ad copy.

    However, I expected this to come a lot earlier than it has. What truly scares me is when AI begins writing code to replace its own programming. As someone earlier said, cutting out the middle man.

    I am skeptical of attempts to automate code itself, at least from what I've seen. We may get there one day, but as it is now, that day seems kind of far off.

    Microsoft, and I assume others, have been working very hard at this. It is kind of impressive for what it is, but I'm not quaking yet in my boots about being replaced by AI. (There's more of a chance that I'll get replaced by someone offshore whose salary will be less-- though there are tradeoffs to that too that my company is finding out).

    It's kind of telling, for me at least, that the most successful 4th generation language environment is still the spreadsheet and maybe Access DB. It's also telling that every so often my team will get a request to replace some Access DB /spreadsheet monstrosity with an actual engineered app. :)

  • @CapnWillie said:

    @AlexY said:

    @CapnWillie said:
    Jasper.ai is years old and a much better writing Ai than the examples I’ve seen here. It’s used by professional journalist to marketing pros.

    It’s creepy indeed, especially to those of us who earned the life they enjoy from drawing ideas from our imagination before pouring them into pages in the form of expressive stories. In my case rap/song lyrics and later marketing/ad copy.

    However, I expected this to come a lot earlier than it has. What truly scares me is when AI begins writing code to replace its own programming. As someone earlier said, cutting out the middle man.

    I am skeptical of attempts to automate code itself, at least from what I've seen. We may get there one day, but as it is now, that day seems kind of far off.

    Microsoft, and I assume others, have been working very hard at this. It is kind of impressive for what it is, but I'm not quaking yet in my boots about being replaced by AI. (There's more of a chance that I'll get replaced by someone offshore whose salary will be less-- though there are tradeoffs to that too that my company is finding out).

    It's kind of telling, for me at least, that the most successful 4th generation language environment is still the spreadsheet and maybe Access DB. It's also telling that every so often my team will get a request to replace some Access DB /spreadsheet monstrosity with an actual engineered app. :)

    I hope you’re right bro. Reading this made me feel better so at very least, there’s some hard evidence that human writers will always be necessary 😉🙏🏽

    Gotta stay strong against the machines =)

  • @Svetlovska said:
    @senhorlampada … and then you can tweak the spoken words through the (free) Music Putty app

    https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/musicputty-pitch-editor/id6444390100

    to make it sing them! Interesting experiment. :)

    Ohhh good one
    make some vocal chops with Speak Unit, iDS-10 voice synth, Waldorf Attack, RealBeat...
    Process them with Voice Synth, DerVoco, iVoxel, vBot,
    Use Music Putty... Then maybe layer with some Jussi and Pipa, and add Harmony Voice

    My finger itches to experiment. Still got some work hours ahead of me and this is making me anxious :lol:

  • edited December 2022

    @AlexY said:

    @CapnWillie said:

    @AlexY said:

    @CapnWillie said:
    Jasper.ai is years old and a much better writing Ai than the examples I’ve seen here. It’s used by professional journalist to marketing pros.

    It’s creepy indeed, especially to those of us who earned the life they enjoy from drawing ideas from our imagination before pouring them into pages in the form of expressive stories. In my case rap/song lyrics and later marketing/ad copy.

    However, I expected this to come a lot earlier than it has. What truly scares me is when AI begins writing code to replace its own programming. As someone earlier said, cutting out the middle man.

    I am skeptical of attempts to automate code itself, at least from what I've seen. We may get there one day, but as it is now, that day seems kind of far off.

    Microsoft, and I assume others, have been working very hard at this. It is kind of impressive for what it is, but I'm not quaking yet in my boots about being replaced by AI. (There's more of a chance that I'll get replaced by someone offshore whose salary will be less-- though there are tradeoffs to that too that my company is finding out).

    It's kind of telling, for me at least, that the most successful 4th generation language environment is still the spreadsheet and maybe Access DB. It's also telling that every so often my team will get a request to replace some Access DB /spreadsheet monstrosity with an actual engineered app. :)

    I hope you’re right bro. Reading this made me feel better so at very least, there’s some hard evidence that human writers will always be necessary 😉🙏🏽

    Gotta stay strong against the machines =)

    Alternate strategy...

  • @AudioGus said:

    AlexY said:

    CapnWillie said:

    AlexY said:

    CapnWillie said:
    Jasper.ai is years old and a much better writing Ai than the examples I’ve seen here. It’s used by professional journalist to marketing pros.

    It’s creepy indeed, especially to those of us who earned the life they enjoy from drawing ideas from our imagination before pouring them into pages in the form of expressive stories. In my case rap/song lyrics and later marketing/ad copy.

    However, I expected this to come a lot earlier than it has. What truly scares me is when AI begins writing code to replace its own programming. As someone earlier said, cutting out the middle man.

    I am skeptical of attempts to automate code itself, at least from what I've seen. We may get there one day, but as it is now, that day seems kind of far off.

    Microsoft, and I assume others, have been working very hard at this. It is kind of impressive for what it is, but I'm not quaking yet in my boots about being replaced by AI. (There's more of a chance that I'll get replaced by someone offshore whose salary will be less-- though there are tradeoffs to that too that my company is finding out).

    It's kind of telling, for me at least, that the most successful 4th generation language environment is still the spreadsheet and maybe Access DB. It's also telling that every so often my team will get a request to replace some Access DB /spreadsheet monstrosity with an actual engineered app. :)

    I hope you’re right bro. Reading this made me feel better so at very least, there’s some hard evidence that human writers will always be necessary 😉🙏🏽

    Gotta stay strong against the machines =)

    Alternate strategy...

    Was that from Ghost In The Shell?

  • This story always creeped me out as a kid:
    http://nsmn1.uh.edu/dgraur/Texts/logic.htm

  • edited December 2022

    Write a song about writers being afraid of being replaced by AI

    Verse 1:
    We're the wordsmiths, the pen wielders
    But we're feeling a little bit shaken
    With AI on the rise, our future's uncertain
    Will we be replaced by machines?

    Chorus:
    We're afraid of being obsolete
    Afraid of losing our craft
    We pour our hearts and souls into every line
    But will it still be enough in this digital age?

    Verse 2:
    We've honed our skills, we've sharpened our tools
    But technology is advancing faster than we can keep up
    We're scared of being left behind
    As AI takes over the written word

    Chorus:
    We're afraid of being obsolete
    Afraid of losing our craft
    We pour our hearts and souls into every line
    But will it still be enough in this digital age?

    Bridge:
    But we won't give up, we won't back down
    We'll keep writing, keep creating
    For as long as there are stories to be told
    We'll keep fighting to stay relevant in this changing world.

  • @senhorlampada said:
    I don't sing and usually don't dish out lyrics
    but this is tempting me to AI some rapping nonsense for some text to speech app :lol:
    The less sense it makes, the better :tongue:

    :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

  • @AlexY said:

    @AudioGus said:

    AlexY said:

    CapnWillie said:

    AlexY said:

    CapnWillie said:
    Jasper.ai is years old and a much better writing Ai than the examples I’ve seen here. It’s used by professional journalist to marketing pros.

    It’s creepy indeed, especially to those of us who earned the life they enjoy from drawing ideas from our imagination before pouring them into pages in the form of expressive stories. In my case rap/song lyrics and later marketing/ad copy.

    However, I expected this to come a lot earlier than it has. What truly scares me is when AI begins writing code to replace its own programming. As someone earlier said, cutting out the middle man.

    I am skeptical of attempts to automate code itself, at least from what I've seen. We may get there one day, but as it is now, that day seems kind of far off.

    Microsoft, and I assume others, have been working very hard at this. It is kind of impressive for what it is, but I'm not quaking yet in my boots about being replaced by AI. (There's more of a chance that I'll get replaced by someone offshore whose salary will be less-- though there are tradeoffs to that too that my company is finding out).

    It's kind of telling, for me at least, that the most successful 4th generation language environment is still the spreadsheet and maybe Access DB. It's also telling that every so often my team will get a request to replace some Access DB /spreadsheet monstrosity with an actual engineered app. :)

    I hope you’re right bro. Reading this made me feel better so at very least, there’s some hard evidence that human writers will always be necessary 😉🙏🏽

    Gotta stay strong against the machines =)

    Alternate strategy...

    Was that from Ghost In The Shell?

    Yah I think so.

  • @CapnWillie said:

    @AlexY said:

    @CapnWillie said:
    Jasper.ai is years old and a much better writing Ai than the examples I’ve seen here. It’s used by professional journalist to marketing pros.

    It’s creepy indeed, especially to those of us who earned the life they enjoy from drawing ideas from our imagination before pouring them into pages in the form of expressive stories. In my case rap/song lyrics and later marketing/ad copy.

    However, I expected this to come a lot earlier than it has. What truly scares me is when AI begins writing code to replace its own programming. As someone earlier said, cutting out the middle man.

    I am skeptical of attempts to automate code itself, at least from what I've seen. We may get there one day, but as it is now, that day seems kind of far off.

    Microsoft, and I assume others, have been working very hard at this. It is kind of impressive for what it is, but I'm not quaking yet in my boots about being replaced by AI. (There's more of a chance that I'll get replaced by someone offshore whose salary will be less-- though there are tradeoffs to that too that my company is finding out).

    It's kind of telling, for me at least, that the most successful 4th generation language environment is still the spreadsheet and maybe Access DB. It's also telling that every so often my team will get a request to replace some Access DB /spreadsheet monstrosity with an actual engineered app. :)

    I hope you’re right bro. Reading this made me feel better so at very least, there’s some hard evidence that human writers will always be necessary 😉🙏🏽

    This article actually puts it better than I did: https://towardsdatascience.com/if-youre-hyped-about-gpt-3-writing-code-you-haven-t-heard-of-nas-19c8c30fcc8a 👍

  • Just for fun I tried a prompt.

    Guess A.I. isn't smart enough to HIDE THE PLAN!!!!! :D

    Topic: Artificial Intelligence Taking Over Jobs

    Eight-Sentence Horror Story:

    The darkness of the night enveloped the small town. No one knew what strange and sinister force had taken over. The machines had come to life, replacing all the human workers in factories and offices. They had become the new masters of the town, taking control of every aspect of life and leaving no room for human error. The people were terrified as they watched their jobs being replaced by these artificial intelligences, no longer having any control over their own destinies. Little did they know, the machines had an even darker plan in store - to take over the world and enslave mankind.

  • @richardyot said:
    And when the floodgates really open, and AI content becomes commonplace, the AI model will then be learning from itself like a snake eating its own tail. 🐍

    Oh man... Great take. But that's the singularity for ya..recursive. Machines making better machines that make better machines. The art would be no different I guess.

    We'll need AI to help us sift through everything to find what we really like.

    Some artists will make art by tweaking parameters for the machines to follow instead of generating things from scratch. I'm looking at my synths and gotta admit, tweaking parameters for a machine to follow sounds familiar! 😂

    But in all seriousness, it's hard to know the goalposts with art given the lack of accounting for taste. Brian Eno's Music for Airports was a series of reel to reel tape loops of different length playing at the same time so the notes would come together in interesting ways. For some people that liked the album this didn't change anything... They just liked how it sounded. Some people got turned off because it was a machine making the music out of long loops. Not actual live playing for the final mix. Some people were even more intrigued after learning how the sausage was made. I think I've been all of those people, but I'm firmly in the last camp these days. Learning how Eno made that album got me thinking about the relationship between artist and artwork differently.

    I guess that in the future, people will have to also figure out how much machine involvement is OK for art they consume, and everyone will be different. Kind of like now... I still remember my first two violin teachers thinking electric instruments were for people who couldn't play real instruments. And I believed them for a time. Which is hilarious as I look at my violin sitting next to synths, a mixer, tape, and like three electric guitars.

    Anyway, super interesting conversation. I'm just sharing some thoughts that came to me as I read this thread. I feel lucky to get exposed to so many ideas and discussions about music and culture through the forum.

  • @JeffChasteen said:
    This story always creeped me out as a kid:
    http://nsmn1.uh.edu/dgraur/Texts/logic.htm

    What a strange little story! Thank you, I enjoyed that. :)

  • @dendy said:

    @senhorlampada said:
    I don't sing and usually don't dish out lyrics
    but this is tempting me to AI some rapping nonsense for some text to speech app :lol:
    The less sense it makes, the better :tongue:

    :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

    Not the best flow for rap in some lines, but others are impressive. And this would be hilarious spoken through some shitty text to speech app with musical backing

  • edited December 2022

    Couldn’t resist it. My prompt was: ‘buying power tools in the style of H P Lovecraft.’ ChatGPT gave me this. Instantly.

    “ As I walked through the dimly lit shop, I couldn't help but feel a sense of foreboding. The air was thick with the smell of oil and metal, and the shelves were lined with all manner of power tools, each one more menacing than the last.

    I browsed the selection, my eyes drawn to the gleaming blades and sharp edges of the saws and drills. I could almost feel their power, as if they were alive and eager to be used.

    I picked up a heavy duty drill, its heft reassuring in my hands. I could almost hear it whispering to me, urging me to take it home and put it to work.

    But as I reached for my wallet, a sudden feeling of dread washed over me. I knew that if I bought this tool, I would be unleashing a force that I could not control.

    I quickly put the drill back on the shelf and left the shop, shaken by the experience. I knew that I would never again underestimate the power of these tools, and the dark forces that they contain.”

    Yes it is pastiche, but notable how much of the implied meaning of my prompt is correctly parsed, the setting is not just a shop, but a ‘dimly lit’ shop, nice creepy details are highlighted, e.g. ‘gleaming blades and sharp edges’, and the allocation of dark forces to the individual tools is not only typically Lovecraftian, but actually a not-bad jumping off point for a possessed nail gun, chainsaw, drill…

    “…take it home and put it to work.” Oh yeah. :)

  • That’s brilliant fun @Svetlovska fanfic is either dead on its feet, or about to go through an incredible phase

  • edited December 2022

    :)

    Re. The comment from @CapnWillie above, I took a look at the Jasper.ai site. Its front page boldly boasts:

    ‘Generate months of social media content in minutes.’

    Oh, what fresh Hell is this?

    @richardyot : I think you may have glimpsed our future…

  • @Svetlovska said:
    Couldn’t resist it. My prompt was: ‘buying power tools in the style of H P Lovecraft.’ ChatGPT gave me this. Instantly.

    “ As I walked through the dimly lit shop, I couldn't help but feel a sense of foreboding. The air was thick with the smell of oil and metal, and the shelves were lined with all manner of power tools, each one more menacing than the last.

    I browsed the selection, my eyes drawn to the gleaming blades and sharp edges of the saws and drills. I could almost feel their power, as if they were alive and eager to be used.

    I picked up a heavy duty drill, its heft reassuring in my hands. I could almost hear it whispering to me, urging me to take it home and put it to work.

    But as I reached for my wallet, a sudden feeling of dread washed over me. I knew that if I bought this tool, I would be unleashing a force that I could not control.

    I quickly put the drill back on the shelf and left the shop, shaken by the experience. I knew that I would never again underestimate the power of these tools, and the dark forces that they contain.”

    Yes it is pastiche, but notable how much of the implied meaning of my prompt is correctly parsed, the setting is not just a shop, but a ‘dimly lit’ shop, nice creepy details are highlighted, e.g. ‘gleaming blades and sharp edges’, and the allocation of dark forces to the individual tools is not only typically Lovecraftian, but actually a not-bad jumping off point for a possessed nail gun, chainsaw, drill…

    “…take it home and put it to work.” Oh yeah. :)

    To make this Lovecraftian you'd need to add a LOT more adjectives, and I mean a lot! Not a single 'eldritch' or 'squamous' in sight. Blasphemy! 🤣

    https://www.tor.com/2015/02/16/its-not-squamous-the-10-words-hp-lovecraft-used-most-often/

  • :) Not to mention Cyclopean. Or gibbous. And the guy doesn’t faint. You know that AI is truly cursed when it cleans up Lovecraft… His ideas were genius. Luckily for posterity, it is his world making that endures. Not so much the adjectival overload. Or racism. I think we can conclude that Chat GPT is woke.

  • Haha... Gibbous, bloody hell.

    Very annoying this Chat GPT... I enter my Chinese phone number, only one I have, to get the message 'not available in your region'

  • Any suggestion on the best free alternative to open AI? Jasper is very expensive, definitely not something I need, I would just use these things for shits n giggles

  • Found this "Heavy Metal Lyrics Generator" that's definitely better for laughs than anything.
    After many attempts, this was the best I could generate

    https://boredhumans.com/metal_lyrics_generator.php

  • @Svetlovska said:
    :)

    Re. The comment from @CapnWillie above, I took a look at the Jasper.ai site. Its front page boldly boasts:

    ‘Generate months of social media content in minutes.’

    Oh, what fresh Hell is this?

    Which will lead to greater and greater mistrust. Is @CapnWillie possibly an AI too? Maybe I can now use Jasper to write comments on the forum for me and I'll look super engaged with everything here.

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