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You write the formula yourself. No matter if you want to control pattern changes, mix arbitrary pattern lengths or use the same lengths all the time, or freely jam on both devices synced over MIDI clock - It's all up to you.
I did try this with the Cycles, it didn’t work great. Not because of Drambo but the knobs have fixed min and max on the M:C. Other boxes might work better, and honestly I tried it SO long ago I should give it a whirl again cause maybe something has changed..
I'm thinking more about just pattern sequencing vs knobs. I ask because of the Elektron "bug" i.e cueing up pattern changes vs instant pattern change. I'm unsure how Drambo functions, but it requires some effort to wire things up, four Elektron devices, in one setup or the other. Figured I could save time by asking what has worked for others. If I can sequence everything from Drambo and have it work reliably, then that would be really fun.
I've started out using Drambo with my Digitakt, Electribe MX and Groove Rider, all synced and linked via MIDI and MIDI clock.
The freedom to choose what to sequence in the box or on the iPad gave me a few headaches because depending on how you decide, you have to change either MIDI routing or MIDI setting to route MIDI messages the correct way and to avoid loopbacks.
Of course I can sequence all my boxes using Drambo's sequencer, including p-locks, a song mode with simple drag & drop pattern rearrangement and whatever MIDI CC modulation from LFOs etc. but then I started wondering about how much of the "unique hands-on hardware feel" is left.
In the end, since total recall is a laborious thing when using multiple boxes (and I've started to give all projects names consisting of date and time just to make sure I find them again), I've gone back to using the machines standalone and sample from them what I needed. I rarely use them anymore now though. Because the setup is not really portable and there's nothing these machines could do that Drambo couldn't, I'm basically using Drambo only standalone on the iPad and Mac now, and it's so much more fun to be creative in a single environment, which used to be Nanostudio and Gadget before. Well, Gadget still is sometimes.
Yes.. this is absolutely crucial thing - no matter what setup i try i always tend to return back to duo Digitakt / Digitone (and very soon will be added Syntakt to complete holy dark trinity
) because i can simply quickly press FM+cog to save whole current project stage and it also remembers current stage when i just turn it off and on again automatically ... realised this fast way of "total recall" is essenial for me, and if i it lacks or there is some caevat that i need to not forget save something somewhere it instantly kill my creativity ..
Even the way how project is saved on Analog 4 (you need save "kit" for each pattern to not mess sounds between patterns - which is menu diving - and then saving whole project also as menu diving) - prevents me from using Analog 4 at the extend that probably going to sell it ..
It's such SOO perfectly designed on dark trinity DT/DN/ST boxes - holy grail of intuitiveness
Good to know, thanks! (I guess you mean FN + Cog, right?)
Yes... FN and button which has "Save project" bellow it , then "Y" .. it's literally so much imprintent in my muscle memory that i even had to look on Digitakt what exactly button is it, i just use it completely on autopilot now
) .. it's like "tap - tap - tap" done.. all saved.
Btw. from same reason I was never able to use on iPad elaborate setups with AUM as centerpiece and lot of sub-components connected together - if on iPad, Nanostudio 2 or Gadget is basically only possible way for me becasue of how they are self-cointained and everything "pre-connected" or how to properly describe it .. i just keep adding instruments and fx and concentrate on music instead on how i should connect it all together so it works
Good point.
To lay down ideas, Gadget gets me there the quickest.
When using Drambo, song ideas rather evolve from experimenting with all kinds of sound creation - sometimes totally unexpected so I do like both ways.
No dice on M:C and probably M:S. Transport controls do not send midi. You can sync clock but ehhhhh. Not the same. Also some knobs are full range 0-127 but pitch only goes from 40-88. Ah well.
what you mean with this ? I has M:S and there was probability per trigger
@dendy was hoping I could map transport controls on the M:C to Drambo but they don’t send any CC message. It’s all good I don’t need any more distractions really lol..
aah this.. hm.. that's really weird .. all Elektron decices are sending MMC /Clock, hardly believe M:C not..
Don't forget transport controls on HW doesn't send CC but MMC/MIDI clock data ..
Not to hijack this thread, I'll get back to it down below...
Thomann had a significant holiday sale on the Syntakt so I finally, after many months of deliberation...jumped into the Elektron family and bought one!
I haven't had this much fun in a looong time! I absolutely love this thing. I just sit on the couch and noodle
I've had it about a week and a half and my fingers pretty much know where to go to do the things. You can fly around through it faster than anything on iOS or PC. With just a few button clicks you can instantly get to any parameter on any track you want and just tweak tweak tweak. The knobs are just perfectly sized to me and great response. The analog synths sound reeeeally good to me. The digital do too, but knowing I've got 4 in the bag (well, the one cymbal only one which is still very nice) is great. I find myself just getting lost and having fun with what I'm doing. Its like playing an instrument and less like programming something. At least for me.
I'm probably going to pickup a Digitakt at some point as well, BUT in the mean time I was gonna try and see if I could cover some of those bases with Drambo on my iPad. SOOoooo what's the best way to hook them up to each other? Is it possible if I get a Powered USB hub, I can connect both iPad and Syntakt to it, and run either the Syntakt into a channel in standalone drambo, or do I go the other direction and send the iPad into Syntakt somehow? If I should create another thread I'll be happy to, but I thought this specific group might help and get me rolling and possibly sequencing both directions from either drambo sometimes sequencing Syntakt or the other way round.
Any help would be appreciated.