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Prophet V - Professor on the Bus
ProphetV emulation - analogue synth with MIDi and Audiobus. Inspired by the legendary sequential circuits synth.
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Prophet V screenshot
Interesting.Aren't there rumours that Retronyms is working on the Pro v from Arturia?But no IAA is a bummer and i'll wait for reports how it actually sounds.I have enough synths with such a classic structure.Therefore it needs to sound outstanding compared to others.
The developer did not spend a great deal of time talking it up in the app description, eh? ;-)
+1 for @Crabman
I'd need to hear it some before deciding if I'd buy. I'm a bit concerned though because this developer is the one behind GRIT (formerly "CRUD") and about a half-dozen other apps that were either poorly reviewed or seemed half-finished. GRIT, for example, has some cool bass sounds, but only a limited number of presets and it has like dubstep wobbles that don't do BPM-syncing.
But here's my issue - why is everyone so excited for the Arturia-branded Prophet Synth from Retronyms, when gangs of people here told me that iMini (also an Arturia synth by Retronyms) is so broken that I should even spend $4.99 on it when it is on sale. Virtual MIDI on that app is apparently unusable, and there hasn't been much indication that it will be fixed.
Can anyone familiar with the actual Prophet give a Cliff Notes version of what makes this synth special and different from others? Watched the 3 minute video, but all I can gather is that it's polyphonic and has dual oscillators.
Help us, Doug! (haha, you know, if you have time and feel like it and all)
I was part of that iMini thread, and we were not saying that at all. Everyone said it has some MIDI issues but was still definitely worth 5 bucks. It's not at all unusable, but I'd say maybe "un- trustable"- it occasionally gets stuck notes.
Shouldn't he be comparing the waveforms to the original hardware? Unless it's an emulation of an emulation... Or maybe the old synth goes out of tune a lot...
@Zymos said:
$5 brings it within the "acceptable risk" range for many people - I was tempted by it and still am. I'm just pointing out that nothing Retronyms seems to do gets the universal approval of something like Sunrizer, Magellan, or even Arturia iSEM, which had a different developer.
Wonder what this does to the naming of the Arturia one - do they call it "Arturia Prophet V" and expect people to figure out which is which?
@StormJH1 said:
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The name of this app is Professor.
Well, rumor has it that the Arturia oneis going to be the VS, not the V, according to those who have looked at some files that are in the Tabletop installation. Which is good news AFAIC, cause the plain old a Prophet is not all that exciting to me.
But also, this one is called "Professor", cause I'm sure there are some legal issues involved.
@firejan82 said:
Whoops! Looked at it wrong. Would explain why I couldn't google the US version.
@StormJH1 said:
I'm excited, I was waiting for a new Tabletop ready poly synth. I wouldn't mind if they made all the Arturia synths Tabletop ready. I used virtual MIDI with iMini a lot, either controlling it with ThumbJam or creating bass lines with Thesis.
It seems (from iFunboxing around in Tabletop a while back) the Arturia / Retronyms port is likely to be a VS port, not a V. So, this will complement it nicely. Having said that, a few weeks is a long time in iPad dog years, so, who knows what we'll get from them ;-)
Aside from being the first completely programmable polysynth ( a really big deal back then) the poly mod section ( a John Bowen idea) allowed for unsynched modulation for each voice using it's EG or Osc2, which really fattened up the sound. This was the first synth I bought and paid full price for, and it still works well even today.
As they upgraded the software, some cool quirks were lost along the way...it used to retain the envelope settings as you switched from preset to preset, so if each was programmed with a long release, they would "crash" and "melt" into each other as you switched around.
They changed it later so the release would be momentarily set short during the preset change to clean up the switch transitions (so using their external sequencer would sound cleaner), and lost that magic "mistake". I still miss it.
http://www.factmag.com/2014/02/28/the-14-synthesizers-that-shaped-modern-music/7/
Quick look at the original, with price.
@firejan82, guessing the developer doesn't have the scratch for a hardware unit. +1 for using Smex's scope though! Why aren't the Smex dudes making iPad apps!?
Sounds pretty good but nothing about its sonics really stands out to me among iOS Virtual Analogs BUT +10 for "all on one screen". Think I'll pick it up. There aren't that many of those.
hmm, just realized this is the same developer as CRuD, SidPad, STiX ... http://twisted-electrons.com/apps/ Great looking apps, all with issues that seem slow to get resolved. I don't actually own any of the other apps though - just getting that from what I see around here.
Well, if the upcoming Arturia one is really just VS then maybe I'll buy this, but I do hope it's both and a hybrid like the desktop version.
Nice link @thinds. I love reading up on vintage synths and what songs/movies they've been used in. Didn't read this one yet.
I'll have a demo up tomorrow
Hmmm. Seems fairly buggy.
It only seems to play in mono, at least from the provided keyboard. I'll try it tonight with an external midi keyboard.
No self oscillating filter, and high filter resonance caused a no sound crash several times.
Polymod will do FM, but not in any sort of way you'd expect (audio rates make slower LFO type modulation).
Has anyone found a manual yet?
Mono as in dual mono or only coming out of one speaker (hard left or whatever)? Mono is fine with me but not if it's not dual mono.
Did the original have a self oscillating filter?
hah,first thing i thought when i read the description:"ok,OSCs modeled close to the original one but what about the (more important) rest (Polymod,Filter etc...)?Must be a reason not to mention it"
Ok,skip.Next.
@Syrupcore:Yes,the original filter can self oscillate.
Think they meant monophonic, not monaural....
@dwarman Yeah, for similar reasons, decided against it. Definitely appreciate the single screen approach but I doubt there's very much here I couldn't do in Sunrizer's single screen.
Sorry, I meant monophonic, but that's not true. It's the legato switch that had me confused. When it is disabled, the unit will play polyphonically. I think this replaces what was the Unison switch on the P5.
To me, the oscillators seem sort of "noisy", especially in the higher ranges.
Hope to check it out more this evening.
@thesoundtestroom said:
Thanks Doug, they are always appreciated!
The important thing to remember with synths like this is just like the old synths they emulate they need effects to make them sound better, this only has a delay, you need to have reverbs, chorus etc
I've got Arturias Prophet 5 thing on my old laptop and the thing sounds amazing with all the effects and the 5 billion presets, but take off the effects and its pretty bland
I agree Doug. I've created a good range of patches for this and run through Turnado / Master FX in AB. Sounds pretty good actually.
No additional FX.