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AudioKit Pro's SAGA SYNTH
For more information on SAGA SYNTH:
https://thebeatcommunity.com/2023/01/01/saga-synth-coming-soon-from-audiokit-pro/
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This would be way, way more interesting if it was a proper synth/YM2616 emulation instead of yet another 'rompler' DOH!
But it is what it is and there's no doubt YT demos/reviews will praise how amazing, marvelous, brilliant etc. it is.
Will 2023 be 'The Year of Romplers'?. I hope not...
Is this another sample player? Audio kit please stop and make FM Player and D1 compatible with the newest versions of iOS instead!
Agreed can’t get excited about these sort of apps anymore new year resolution less spending on apps that are what we already have !
😂 profound!
I understand people aren't into romplers, but Audiokit made me realize I love 'em. I know enough about synthesis to edit presets and I'm not into patch building from scratch unless I'm just experimenting and not making a song.
VHS Synth was probably my favorite offering from them so far. The sounds are so good and I can get a nice track laid down with a specific vibe. I'll probably pick this up as well so sorry for supporting their dev efforts and encouraging more romplers
2023 YEAR OF THE ROMPLER BABY!
Makes sense!
I love and prefer synths, but I don't get the dislike and snark towards romplers and audiokit here.
If the developer has a good ear, I think romplers are great. It's nice to explore the sonic preferences and choices of others, and if I can get the sound with a rompler it's usually better for me than a synth for getting things done since I don't get stuck tweaking 20 LFOs in the sound design stage. And they usually have less cpu overhead if I can swing the HD space.
I hope this release is more stable like VHS synth and less like FM Player 2...that one always crashes in AUM for me. With FM Player, Digitalism, and VHS, I think the layers, envelopes, and fx package make them strong sound design tools, if not as open ended as a synth. Something like Overdrive Synth or Lo-Fi Tape strikes me more as classic romplers without any many parameters or LFOs to tweak as compared with other audiokit offerings like VHS.
Horses for courses. I'm not going to fire up Dexed if I just need a solid 80s FM bell that I can grab from a rompler ☺ on my ipad. And finding a patch with KQ Dixie is always frustrating for me given the preset system.
I think we can all agree KQ Dixie is a wonderful synth with an absolutely terrible patch organization system.
I'd argue that this is unique enough (in the iOS ecosystem anyway) to still be worth a punt. Especially for $2.99.
It's not superb, but I usually just select one of the DX7 SysEx files and go on from there.
The 3 temp banks can store 32 presses each for quick access so I keep my most used patches there for quick access.
It took a while o get the hang of it but it's not impossible to learn
When I find a patch I like I just save it to one of my own banks, it's just a few taps...
During last year I took the time to 'learn' how it works and I no longer have to think when I use it, just tap, tap tap done.
It's an awesome synth and with layering and multi-out it can be used to create pretty massive sounds.
KQ Dixie is still LOT easier to program and use than the old DX7 ever was.
Cheers!
I don't think they will (or even can) at this point. Same for making Synth One AUv3 compatible.
True! For some it may be a cheap gold mine and the intro price is ok...
Just not my cup of tea (If it was a full YM2616 emulation I'd be all over it even at >$29.99).
I obviously need to practice more. Kq is excellent and very low cpu overhead. I just need to figure out a solid workflow. Tap tap tap!
What are the problems with D1 and FM Player on the latest iOS? I’m still on 15 and thinking of moving up to 16 soon, but I occasionally use those two synths.
as a HipHop beat maker i really love and enjoy audiokits ramplers more then actual auv3 synths because they have that sample texture that sounds great for the type of beat i make, also another thing that i like about all audiokits romplers is that they do come with a lot of presets which i really appreciate because im more about presets then designing my own presets, even though i do redesign presets sounds sometimes if i like something about but i feel that it can be better with some extra adjustments
You can get some great sounds quickly and it’s fairly stable. A few crashes but I’m also on a 2017 iPad Pro 12.9” that has its own set of issues.
A quick little demo of a patch I made.
New app coming out by #AudioKit. #ontherun #synth #gamesynth
https://youtube.com/shorts/xay2PBgtpAQ?feature=share
Then by all means do get it!
Being a Tech Geek I'm more into Chip/Synth/Techno (No Vomit Pumping EDM though) than HipHop/Trap so designing sounds from scratch feels way more rewarding than using pre-cooked samples which have the tendency of making everyone sound more or less the same.
Hopefully the AudioKit AUv3 frame-work is a bit more stable now instead of being a 'deluxe crash fest' especially when using multiple instances.
No doubt it will sell a few copies but I'll pass...
Cheers!
I get what you mean about the same samples leading to people having similar sounds, but music isn't just about having a unique sound that you then use. I don't think there's anything pejorative about using 'precooked samples,' or just samples even. Does precooked mean with added fx?
I mean, almost the entirety of human music history is made with pantheon of acoustic instruments specific to the cultures. A violin will sound like a violin plus the violinist. Orchestras are orchestras. Beethoven's 9th is totally different from his 5th but uses the same instruments. As a gigging fiddler, I'm always amazed at how different my American bluegrass, hot swing, and oldtime fiddle styles are wildy different sounding from my Scottish and Irish fiddler colleagues. Same violins.
I think that if people sound the same in their tracks it's not just because they use the same sounds though it can be a contributing factor. But hey... Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan both played acoustic amartin guitars. YMMV!
I believe they don't work well as AUv3. This is not a new problem, but a long-standing issue. You could search for it in this forum.
Yepp, pre-cooked with baked in vibrato, reverb, delays, filter sweeps, envelope-times and other modulation sounds that change in speed across the keyboard range add to that badly set loop-points that can not be changed.
I prefer dry samples for instruments that can be processed as needed.
What triggered me about this particular synth was that I’m quite familiar with the YM2616 chip and how it works and the only somewhat faithful emulation we have on iOS is baked into Deflemask.
Ah, thanks for explaining. Yeah, I really prefer dry samples most of the time, but if the developer has taste and is precise with the app, I do use some precooked samples. I think of Lo-Fi Tape and Moodunits Waverly as good examples of tastefully done romplers with well-applied fx given the genres those rompler are geared towards. The added fx can be useful for cpu overhead but I do tend to prefer the control. But again, just my opinion!
I can see how your experience with the real synth would make this feel disappointing. I lust after a minimoog because of the sounds I can make. I don't get excited over the IK Multimedia rompler version, although it does sound excellent.
Moog Model D, Model 15 and Animoog Z are VERY good combined with effects like Eventide Black Hole.
Perfect for sampling straight into Koala in AUM or any other sampler.
Well. Child is busy playing her musical instrument. My turn. I think it's time to make @Samu approved samples for koala. Man I love ios for moments like this. So easy to just get something going in 10min! Cheers!
Share the project LOL
Exactly, that's the issue. Such a great apps and almost no one is using them because they don't work in DAWs.
Weird. I don’t use them a lot, but I’ve used them happily in AUM without problems. Maybe DAW-specific?
Beta testing this, I've had zero problems so far, using it in AUM. Most importantly, it stays in time over a long period! Bug free, so far as my testing has gone, great sounds. 909 was a disaster, this seems solid as a rock
Cubasis and NS2
@Gavinski thanks about your input but we are talking about D1 and FM Player
I’ll be getting it I’m sure - what will the ‘circuit’ knob do?
Picked my favorite 40 sounds and played them on this demo (I also do a small giveaway):
I like this app, it has a variety of sounds for every genre. The transition between presets is less noisy than with VHS Synth, but it's still there. Recently picked the PO-113 Street Fighter, and I recognize a few sounds from there.
For the intro price of 3 bucks, that's a steal. Tons of built-in sounds.