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I’m an idiot… Overdubbing in AUM
I’ve been using AUM more or less every day for the last 3 years but have only just realised that one of the ways I’ve been using it is bonkers…
A lot of my pieces are done in one take but if I need more than one recording overdubbed on another e.g. a solo overdubbed on top of a backing track then I…
1) Record an audio track (I don’t do midi) in an AUM session
2) Create another AUM session and arm a file player with the recording (backing track) I’ve just done
3) Play the backing track and record the next audio track (the solo) as either a separate recording or overdubbed on the original
4) Repeat 2 and 3 as many times as I need
5) Do a final mix if required from all of the accumulated recordings
All of this works fine but… if I have say a 10 minute backing track and want to add a solo starting at about 9 minutes, I have been sitting there like a dummy for 9 minutes only to then start playing, cock up the first note of the solo, abandon the recording, start again, wait 9 minutes etc etc. and believe me I cock up a lot! I can’t imagine how much time I’ve just sat there waiting to start playing 🥲
So I realised a couple of weeks ago what I should have been doing is (assuming we’re at 120 bpm)…
- Use the beat offset facility in the AUM File Player to start the backing track at -1080 (9 minutes in) i.e. it will start at the point I want to add the solo and then I can record my solo of 120 beats (1 minute) without having to twiddle my thumbs for 9 minutes!
- In the final mix , start the backing track at Beat Offset = 0 and the solo at +1080
That’s it
I’ll set up the poll later so that you can tell me if I’m an idiot or not 😊
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Also you can forward and rewind on the aum transport by swiping! I didn't know this myself until Victor the Atom dev mentioned it to me quite some time ago, I was flabbergasted I'd missed something so useful!
Oops I thought the thread title was the name of your new song.
Or you could’ve saved a ton of time by recording all backing tracks to GarageBand first and then exporting them for use in your preferred AUM.
Just sayin’!
I haven’t been able to figure this feature out yet. Dragging advances the timeline by very small increments. It’s very frustrating.
While dragging I see new timeline controls appear, but as soon as I stop dragging they disappear. How do you access and use them? The manual’s timeline section does not enlighten.
Long press before dragging!
That doesn’t work for me. Long press on the play button does nothing. Am I long pressing the wrong spot?
Imagine of @j_liljedahl added alternative screen based around a timeline for launching MIDI and Audio clips. It just might become the puppet that becomes a real boy, Jiminy Cricket. I suspect he makes AUM for his own workflow and doesn’t approach music as a structured series of events and he removes all the friction to his workflow and many of us just appreciate the ability to hook up apps and route MIDI and create buses to add FX and sub-mixes.
@GeoTony: Not knowing everything is not the sign of an idiot when you keep producing wonderful work without the new knowledge doing it the harder way. They keep telling me constraints are a benefit to creativity. I keep working to improve process while getting little done… the stuff I spit out is just an artifact of some experiment in process.
@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr , long press and then drag all the way to the right of left… does that do it?
Good idea @NoiseHorse !
Don’t know enough about GB to say @NeuM , I guess any equivalent daw allows you to start recording at a particular time? I just like AUM I guess 😊
I agree @McD in that I think constraints are a good thing. They definitely make you think outside the box but having said that your stuff isn’t that shabby 👍
No joy. Long press on the play button does nothing for me but toggle the transport on or off.
@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr , keep your finger pressed down and slide left or right. As soon as you take your finger off it stops… is this it 🤔
I’m guessing GarageBand gets little attention because it’s free and included in iOS. It should be considered as an option, despite some limitations. It’s fast and easy to use, plus it has enough complexity to deliver decent results for most of what I hear on these threads. I’m not seeing a lot of Frank Zappa or Rush style music here. For straightforward 4/4 works or even recordings with no adherence to a metronome, it is more than adequate. Just my 2 pence.
Yes, that’s the only way it works for me—dragging in short increments. The transport controls only come up while dragging and disappear when I lift my finger so I can’t use them. Long press does nothing.
Agreed @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr 😊
I press on the numbers slightly above the play button and drag a little to the right, not too much. It’s not super fast but about 10 seconds press will bring you forward one minute. Maybe @j_liljedahl could comment on whether there’s a way to make it faster
When you start the drag, movements within a small range will adjust the current time in small steps. If you then drag a longer bit to the left or right and hold still, it will go into "auto scroll" mode where it will go fast.
+1.
It is free and there's a ton of "how to use" videos on YouTube. Well worth checking out.
Thanks for the clarification! It would be easier to understand if the fast forward and reverse controls could be used like buttons. To see them blink on and off with no way to touch them is confusing and frustrating.
I see. Those "buttons" are meant is visual indicators telling you what's happening.
But all this will be much more user friendly when I replace the above with a simple timeline-widget at the top where you see the play cursor move and can drag it as you wish. (Yet another TODO item..)
Hellz yeah. This will be very useful.
+1 for sure!