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Why is the App Store search so useless?
I often search for apps by their exact name, and get results that don't include what I'm looking for. I know that I can go to appsliced, and sometimes locate the item that way... but not always. I was just looking for an "obscure" app mentioned here called Protein der Klang," and searching for it only brings up diet-related stuff. WTF is up with App Store search?
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It seems to sort results by popularity I think, so if your app has little attention, it will be listed with a ton of others that reference the search word, but way down in the results list. I wish Apple would improve the search and allow search parameters and sort options.
Use https://synthyfrog.com/clear/
Same thing with the Podcasts app and Apple Music search, just abysmal. You can enter an exact album title and it’ll just suggest the newest Drake song.
And who here knew that Apple had hired away John Giannandrea (head of search and artificial intelligence) from Google in 2018? So far, I can't think of a single thing he's improved at Apple yet.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/03/apple-hires-googles-ai-chief.html
Yeah it sucks.
But that app might be gone.
I usually just search Google and it gives me the AppStore link.
This app has no AppStore link, so likely isn’t on the AppStore any longer.
Idk why it’s like that but I just want to echo how much it sucks
It sucks balls big time. One of the most useless and annoying algorithms on the planet
But what I do is search Google, putting either “iPhone App” or “iOS App” before the search term.
Let’s say I want to find apps that focus on chicken recipes. So I type “iPhone App Chicken.” Hmmm, I’m seeing a lot of games, and that’s not what I want, so I might try “iPhone App +Chicken.” This puts a bit more emphasis on the Chicken part.
That’s better, but still not what I want. So I type “iPhone App +Chicken -game” — that tells Google to search for iPhone Apps that have the word “Chicken” in the description, but to exclude all results that have the word “game.” OK, I’m getting closer, but what I really want are apps with chicken recipes.
So I try something a little different: “+chicken -game +recipe +iOS” Boom! That’s more like it. Not 100% effective, but it does help me wade through all the choices and come up with better suggestions.
Obviously I could have just typed “+chicken -game +recipe +iOS” to begin with, but I wanted to walk you through a thought process that might help you in the future. Adding “+free” or “+paid” would further limit the choices to either free or paid apps.
Apple failed to implement the “anti gaming” principles that have been so important in the success of Google search and have only recently started to address this properly. Their purchase of Chomp a few years ago tried to tackle this but developers used many tricks to game the system. Name titles like Angry Flappy Hungry were used to piggyback on the success of other apps fame and this practice made things worse.
Fake reviews have been deleted where discovered and Apple have the technology to route out the bots, downloads that are solely for the purpose of increasing the count.
The “keyword” system was intended to help developers get discovered by tagging their apps but was abused as many irrelevant ones were then included.
Google tackled this by penalizing websites that used “keyword stuffing” and hidden content designed for search engines to read but not for readers.
Apple could easily fix this if they only read the Google search playbook and implemented the best practices.
Apple doesn't even seem to have much flexibility around spacing. This is compounded by the trend among devs to conflate two words into one to create app names, and sometimes the app store won't give a good result if you forget the space when it should be there, or vice versa. Add to this that some devs seem to regularly change their app store dev names, and perhaps they are not tagging things correctly. Add in another annoying things like the need to make a name look cool by leaving out all the vowels, etc etc. So yeah, better to just use Google search!
I don’t recall any search these days that gives you decent results including Google and especially Amazon
I think things got worse since iOS 16: Quite often I cannot even search or check for updates because the app store is stuck with an endless download spinner.
Often I just search for the developer first and then go to the app from there.
Google has definitely got worse - some of the search operators that used to work so well will now either get ignored or only be partially successful.
It's useless by design, so that you see many apps you don't need before you actually find the one you're looking for, just like other supermarket psychology, trying to get you to spend more than you need.
Very likely
I often search in appsliced. It works pretty well, and is quick. You can review the app blurbs there, before using the AppStore link to go direct to the correct page.
That's a great idea but unfortunately it's not maintained properly. Searching for "Host" & "AU support" doesn't even list half of the available apps.
Yep, synths frog is shit. Sorry to be blunt. Missing tons of recent apps
Ding ding ding.
These are smart people who get paid to waste your time and sell you useless junk. It's working as intended.
When you have a monopoly, why bother developing things in meaningful ways other than whatever directly makes you even more money? 🤷
(I'm sure that's not all of it, but I'm also sure it's part of it.)
We’ve already been through this. Apple has no monopoly.
I think your views are skewed a bit by your desire to protect free market thinking at all costs @NeuM. But if we're going to go down that road, probably better to take this to the padded cell chat before this thread gets sunk
Hah, forgot about that section. Just checked it out... seems to be doing it's job. No wonder I have been enjoying hanging out here more lately.
Yep 😂
I didn’t even realize it was there. Just took a look - there are some train wreck discussions going on there. Don’t think I have any desire to visit again…
Haha. This isn't a political issue, Gavinski. Apple does not have a monopoly on apps, app distribution methods or even "smart phones". If anyone wants to argue against "market dominance" (which is not illegal, by the way) then raise that issue about Google/Alphabet and Android. Android has far more market share. This is not even a point of contention.
https://www.businessofapps.com/data/android-statistics/
Bane of my life. I use Appsliced mostly.
Who knows really probably because of the sheer amount of apps.
If you have an iPad I highly recommend using the filters in the top left, or using an alternate site like appsliced, or a dedicated App Store search engine like Find.io