VHS tape emulation

kidslow

@andowrites said:

@kidslow said:
Old VCRs are certainly easy enough to come by. Why not go analog with it?

If desktop effects are on the table, Psychic Modulation Echomelt is what I would recommend. If you have access to NI Reaktor, VHS Audio Degradation Suite is probably exactly what you want. Or if you have Ableton, this also appears to be a decent ITB option: https://brianfunk.com/blog/2013/06/07/free-ableton-live-pack-80-vhs-rack

I don't have the space to go with old VCRs and tapes. I have been considering micro cassette for another variation on this them, but trying to resist the temptation, again, mostly due to space, or lack of. Desktop is just fine with me. I'll take the Ableton option, thank you!

Micro cassette not going to sound very close to VHS, but will have an aesthetic all its own. In a way I envy your minimalism. I have somewhere between 3 and 5 old VCRs lying around and a box of old VHS tapes that I still can't put my fingers on. Not sure where I put them, but I know they're here somewhere. LOL

andowrites

@Slush said:
We need some impulse responses from VHS tapes.

Found some JVC VHS CAMCORDER ir’s: https://magicalroom.gumroad.com/l/fiIBC?layout=profile
CRT television with VHS https://magicalroom.gumroad.com/l/octHX

I'm intrigued, what are impulse responses?

kidslow

You load the impulse responses into a convolution reverb, and they facsimilate the acoustic properties of an audio source or setting. You'd have to use those IRs with another lo-fi'er to get wow, tape dropout, etc.

andowrites

@kidslow said:
You load the impulse responses into a convolution reverb, and they facsimilate the acoustic properties of an audio source or setting. You'd have to use those IRs with another lo-fi'er to get wow, tape dropout, etc.

Ah, okay, thanks, I think I understand. I did go off and look into IRs in Ableton.

wim

@Simon said:
I wonder how many blank VHS & Beta tapes were made and sold over the years?

Where are they now... in the ground.

Same with audio cassettes and records I guess.

Ours are still stored in our garage. My wife won't let me get rid of them. 🤷🏼‍♂️🙄

Funny coincidence. Last night my son bought a small cabinet/end-table at a second-hand store. When he opened it at home, he found about a dozen old vinyls from the 50's - 60's in good shape inside. Those things probably sat around in there for 50 years until someone's parents died and their kids took that piece of furniture to the second-hand store.

Simon

@wim said:
Funny coincidence. Last night my son bought a small cabinet/end-table at a second-hand store. When he opened it at home, he found about a dozen old vinyls from the 50's - 60's in good shape inside. Those things probably sat around in there for 50 years until someone's parents died and their kids took that piece of furniture to the second-hand store.

I do volunteer work at a charity shop and some of the stuff that comes in is amazing. Like you say, the grandparents die and the adult kids bring in what they don't want to keep. We had a 1st (Australian) pressing of The Beatles "Please Please Me" LP on the old black and gold Parlophone label come in a while ago.

id_23

Did anyone mention
https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/tb-reelbus/id1482450479

Edit ,
Also for pc only...
http://www.dyvision.co.uk/videotape/vt.html

id_23

Another desktop option, you may find interest in
https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/addictive_fx/effect/rc-20_retro_color

el_bo

@kidslow said:
Old VCRs are certainly easy enough to come by. Why not go analog with it?

If you have access to NI Reaktor, VHS Audio Degradation Suite is probably exactly what you want.

This! It's a beautiful thing!

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/13367/

and a Maschine+ modded version:

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/14701/

andowrites

@id_23 said:
Another desktop option, you may find interest in
https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/addictive_fx/effect/rc-20_retro_color

Nice, I've been looking at this, but it's a little above my current budget. I see it's also on rent to buy, but still… I wish.

andowrites

@el_bo said:

@kidslow said:
Old VCRs are certainly easy enough to come by. Why not go analog with it?

If you have access to NI Reaktor, VHS Audio Degradation Suite is probably exactly what you want.

This! It's a beautiful thing!

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/13367/

and a Maschine+ modded version:

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/14701/

Very nice indeed. I was exploring it last night.

Slush

Another IR: https://encoderaudio.sellfy.store/p/bxl1/
“ From version 1.1o, we've included new IRs and samples from VHS tapes!”

All you need is an impulse response app to load these, like Altispace 2.

For desktop: U-he Satin Preset for Simulating VHS Tape
https://larslentzaudio.wordpress.com/2018/03/01/u-he-satin-preset-for-simulating-vhs-tape/

Stuntman_mike

Or you could invest in this beauty:
https://www.perfectcircuit.com/demedash-t-120.html

andowrites

@Slush said:
Another IR: https://encoderaudio.sellfy.store/p/bxl1/
“ From version 1.1o, we've included new IRs and samples from VHS tapes!”

All you need is an impulse response app to load these, like Altispace 2.

For desktop: U-he Satin Preset for Simulating VHS Tape
https://larslentzaudio.wordpress.com/2018/03/01/u-he-satin-preset-for-simulating-vhs-tape/

Thanks. I picked up the preset.

andowrites

@Stuntman_mike said:
Or you could invest in this beauty:
https://www.perfectcircuit.com/demedash-t-120.html

I can dream of so many pedals. Actually, just two so far.

Slush

@andowrites said:

@Slush said:
Another IR: https://encoderaudio.sellfy.store/p/bxl1/
“ From version 1.1o, we've included new IRs and samples from VHS tapes!”

All you need is an impulse response app to load these, like Altispace 2.

For desktop: U-he Satin Preset for Simulating VHS Tape
https://larslentzaudio.wordpress.com/2018/03/01/u-he-satin-preset-for-simulating-vhs-tape/

Thanks. I picked up the preset.

Does it give you the sound you’re after?

andowrites

@Slush said:

@andowrites said:

@Slush said:
Another IR: https://encoderaudio.sellfy.store/p/bxl1/
“ From version 1.1o, we've included new IRs and samples from VHS tapes!”

All you need is an impulse response app to load these, like Altispace 2.

For desktop: U-he Satin Preset for Simulating VHS Tape
https://larslentzaudio.wordpress.com/2018/03/01/u-he-satin-preset-for-simulating-vhs-tape/

Thanks. I picked up the preset.

Does it give you the sound you’re after?

Time will tell…

Thanks for the tip-off though. I'll be working with this in the coming weeks.

kidslow

@andowrites said:

@Slush said:
Another IR: https://encoderaudio.sellfy.store/p/bxl1/
“ From version 1.1o, we've included new IRs and samples from VHS tapes!”

All you need is an impulse response app to load these, like Altispace 2.

For desktop: U-he Satin Preset for Simulating VHS Tape
https://larslentzaudio.wordpress.com/2018/03/01/u-he-satin-preset-for-simulating-vhs-tape/

Thanks. I picked up the preset.

You got the IR pack from Encoder or the Satin presets? I've been curious about that Cassette IR library but not yet enough to buy it. Seems like a good deal for 1000 IRs though.

Freesound also a place to find various samples that you might layer in. https://freesound.org/search/?q=VHS+VCR

The presets for Satin were a good find @Slush

andowrites

@kidslow said:

@andowrites said:

@Slush said:
Another IR: https://encoderaudio.sellfy.store/p/bxl1/
“ From version 1.1o, we've included new IRs and samples from VHS tapes!”

All you need is an impulse response app to load these, like Altispace 2.

For desktop: U-he Satin Preset for Simulating VHS Tape
https://larslentzaudio.wordpress.com/2018/03/01/u-he-satin-preset-for-simulating-vhs-tape/

Thanks. I picked up the preset.

You got the IR pack from Encoder or the Satin presets? I've been curious about that Cassette IR library but not yet enough to buy it. Seems like a good deal for 1000 IRs though.

Freesound also a place to find various samples that you might layer in. https://freesound.org/search/?q=VHS+VCR

The presets for Satin were a good find @Slush

Satin presets.