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I think this could be great for artistic inspiration though.
the way this evolves is that Spotify generates songs and playlists based on AI and keeps all ze royalties to itself…yay!
You know, I thought the music was going to be antiseptic and formulaic, but the tracks were kind of novel. Surprising. Interesting.
yup! houston we…
I feel like for any music fan, the artist(s) making the music is part of the experience. AI will never replace that.
But why be a fan when you can become an artist. Use the music making AI with deep fake type AI to create the artist avatar. Combine that with the AI writing stuff for lyrics and social media posts and interacting.
This will be the new way for ordinary people to present one self on social media, just like they do now with the filters.
I’m not for our against this. It’s just where I imagine things going. I’m sure the creative people will also create more interesting content.
I can see both sides of the coin. I love apps like Beatly for inspiration but nothing comes close to making it all yourself. It’s so early in the AI process to get a good grip on where it’s going and how it can or will be used. But yeah, that aspect of it is a bit scary.
Waiting for the drum and bass band robots but think an AI robot mc would be better. If it had the style of mcs but could always be freestyle. Plus maybe be like the dude from police academy with sound effects. Also oscilate voice ( fieldscaper-ish ) Speak in alien etc. I guess people would need it do tricks. Like transparent body pop. With internal branched lights. Be able to fly. Walk the ceiling etc.
But we are bordering on horror movie.
Think it would just be for novelties sake. The genre is already ok enough.
but obviously if it could be a band that acts like a dj. Unknown tracks and unknown lyrics. Whilst knowing when to repeat sentimentals.
Maybe people might go raving more.
Id be waiting for bugs to be ironed out though.
Wouldnt want to end up a bug myself.
They brought out chess computers - but they will never win. I put a match to mine then battered it with the wife’s rolling pin. I beat it every single time now.
This is hilarious. Because the big record companies have copyrighted every combination of notes already the AI can't publish anything without google getting sued. So... um... yay for copyright by the big companies? lol
During an experiment, they found that about 1% of the music the system generated was directly replicated from the songs on which it trained — a threshold apparently high enough to discourage them from releasing MusicLM in its current state.
There will always be great creative human minds, and probably more and more given the dark times ahead. Creation to transcend the suffering.
Meanwhile we'll see the rise of great artificial minds that will also be able to create great amazing music. We should embrace it and not fear it. In terms of pure creation I see this as a blessing.
I am personally more concern about the performance side. We saw recently a wave of artists on the verge of burn out who decided to cancel their tour because of the impossible pace imposed to them by the industry. I suspect that as soon as high tech companies are able to produce virtuosi machines driven by AI, able to play whatever on demand, the music industry will probably jump on the train and try to replace the human artists by machines that can perform the same piece relentlessly. That would be a very sad thing because apart from the technological achievement, what's the point of seeing a robot or a cyborg performing ? I don't know for you, but the whole point for me is to know that the player in front of me spent hours of fastidious practice to achieve something that blows my mind. Having a machine playing it without even rehearsing would just kill all the magic...
Producing music doesn’t necessarily mean the output is particularly interesting, and the results might be something that people just don’t want to listen to at all.
What if everything it writes sounds like Nickelback? (Actually, that would explain why they don’t want to release it…)
It's not "game over". It's a "game changier". 😂 Kidding, kidding. Someone had to make that lame joke.
I'm not worried, because AI will never be able to replace human creativity and ingenuity. It'll always be a robotic shell of what humans can do, and like AI Art Generators, will probably mesh together a hodgepodge of already existing works to create something unoriginal.
So, if I used Google's Ai machine to write a song for me, who would own the copyright - me or Google?
Successful music is frequently about marketing, branding, tastemakers and other intangibles…there’s already more music available than the average human can consume.
So as usual it will be about the promoters who have the gift of attention
What’s so bad about Nickleback? Don’t ya wanna be a rockstar?
I am reminded of this article - https://www.indelicates.com/worthless/ (it is a bit rambling, like this post!). I have never released (never mind try to sell) any of my creations or been part of the music 'industry' so I don't know how accurate the points in the article are, but it was nonetheless an interesting take. It was also likely to have been written before the current wave of AI technology, which will inevitably further push up the supply of music.
I would have thought that there will still be a demand for musicians of the future whose USP is that they claim to have not used algorithms to create the music (the musical notes or lyrics, sidestepping the "Ah, but!" arguments about growing trees and raising goats to make instruments here...), in perhaps the same way as people choose to buy furniture from a carpenter rather than a big factory. There will also surely be a demand for live musicians for the same reason, even if/when @JanKun 's vision of robo-KISS doing their 'Final Ever Tour 2089' comes to pass.
If we get to a point where the average person can no longer tell if music came from a person or machine, and we may be there already, then how does someone who still does things the 'old-fashioned' way and wants to market themselves as such prove without doubt that they did not use AI to get there? There is no audit trail to how a song came about and so no way to show you did not use AI. Even if we end up with some centralised AI database which could be queried, e.g. "BeatMaker AI, did you create this piece of music? Yes, I created that for user xyz on Jan 16th 2043", then the user could have modified the piece (notes, instruments) enough for the query to not detect it - at this point you could argue that becomes a piece of human art again but it does nothing to help the person wanting to prove without question that they wrote some notes or lyrics on a piece of paper without a computer directing them.
There is certainly going to be human art coming from using what AI spits out, either by mashing it up or by using it as inspiration. The problem I see is that we will be unable to 100% trust that someone made something without using AI now, if that is what they seek to claim. Maybe nobody really cares, much in the same way as nobody really cares when commercially successful music is ghostwritten.
I just don’t wanna be a terrible rock band.
That'll be Post Malone, lol! 😂🤣
I wanna be a rockstar like Led Zeppelin, not Nickleback.
I’m not going to let it stop me from making music of my own
exactly, music making is a healthy creative outlet….the illusion of making one’s living with it has always been a mass deception imo. so Generative AI is not going to impact the average musician one iota. There’s alway been no money it and that will continue to be so
I was kind of hoping it would be different than human musicians
LOL! 😂 Well, that's definitely true if you listen to the current Billboard Top 40, or even something like Lofi Girl (where all the tracks pretty much sound the same, no shade). I'm pretty sure Google's new AI isn't capable of doing anything like chromaticism or various time signatures outside of 4/4, 3/4, and 6/8.
The only thing I'd really want to do with a music AI is take one of my instrumentals I produce in NS2 or FLSM, detect the chord progression, and create a vocal performance based on any lyrics I feed it in any voice I wish and then let me download the vocal stem(s). Something like an AI Vocaloid that I can subscribe monthly to online if that makes sense.
(Say for instance I want Josephine Baker to "sing" on an instrumental I make that's like a crossover between Lofi HipHop and an old-timey Jazz backing track with a lush chord progression. 🫠 )
@MisplacedDevelopment said:
I would have thought that there will still be a demand for musicians of the future whose USP is that they claim to have not used algorithms to create the music (the musical notes or lyrics, sidestepping the "Ah, but!" arguments about growing trees and raising goats to make instruments here...), in perhaps the same way as people choose to buy furniture from a carpenter rather than a big factory.
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I’m old enough to remember back in the day when notices were placed on albums declaring:
“No synthesizers were used in the creation of this music.”
Why did you give this thread that doomsday title then? 🙂
I agree with @Fingolfinzzz and this you - nothing to worry about for people here on the forum. Well, other than an affront to their personal taste which is perfectly understandable.
To channel my inner Rick Beato, if a new wave of better trained, higher quality AI musician overlords clean the airwaves of the atrocious, yet ubiquitous crap that autotune has made of (human) music, I'll consider their takeover a net positive. 👊
it just another distraction for you to consume.
Well there's always some money in music making, but mostly pocket change.
I mostly make music for myself, and produce beats for Hip Hop artists like my friend Malleous. 
Was it effective? Case closed. 😭
Seriously?! That’s awesome. Thanks for the share. It adds perspective.
Yep, well, I guess A.I. will help to take the heat off of sampling artists. Also, new ground for attorneys to wrangle over. More pockets to put their hands into.