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Mixbox CS: What's the Latest?

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  • @Jamie_Mallender said:

    @Slush said:

    @ghost_forests said:
    At 39 £$€ it’s an absolute steal imo, if you consider what a single app can cost these days (and that’s not a complaint).

    €47,99

    Agreed. When you do the maths, it’s the best value for money app on iOS.

    Yes, I think this might be true if you start fresh on iOS. And I have considered Mixbox from time to time, it looks beautiful but the free version is kind of a mixed bag to me. I do like some of the fx, but I don’t get any warm feelings from that free Phazer/Reverb/Distortion fx. They don’t even come close to the ones I bought over time. So it’s hard to judge if it’s worth the investment. Do I need a Mixbox tape sim when I already have TB/Chowtape/Tape Cassette? Do I need a Mixbox delay when I have a zillion of them already with so much more settings and possibilities? Mixbox EQs? I have a bunch of great RedRock ones. So, not sure if it will bring me anything better than I probably already own.

  • That's the issue, exactly. If I were diligent, I would have channel presets for a drum bus, for a bass channel, for acoustic guitar, built with my excellent AU effects. Which is probably what I'll stick to. I have Tonex, but I don't love it. It seems to be built for somebody else. But thank you all for saving me $39.99. I'm now going to go steal @israelite's girlfriend.

  • @Slush said:

    @Jamie_Mallender said:

    @Slush said:

    @ghost_forests said:
    At 39 £$€ it’s an absolute steal imo, if you consider what a single app can cost these days (and that’s not a complaint).

    €47,99

    Agreed. When you do the maths, it’s the best value for money app on iOS.

    Yes, I think this might be true if you start fresh on iOS. And I have considered Mixbox from time to time, it looks beautiful but the free version is kind of a mixed bag to me. I do like some of the fx, but I don’t get any warm feelings from that free Phazer/Reverb/Distortion fx. They don’t even come close to the ones I bought over time. So it’s hard to judge if it’s worth the investment. Do I need a Mixbox tape sim when I already have TB/Chowtape/Tape Cassette? Do I need a Mixbox delay when I have a zillion of them already with so much more settings and possibilities? Mixbox EQs? I have a bunch of great RedRock ones. So, not sure if it will bring me anything better than I probably already own.

    For many of us the “must have” effects are the White 2A and Black 76 compressors.

  • I wish Mixbox was around when I started. It would have cover the ground for the majority of effect I needed. Saving me from buying it all separately. Also the plugin chain preset are very valuable to me to learn.

  • $5 average per effect
    X
    Reverb
    Delay
    Eq
    Saturation
    Compression
    Modulation

    That’s $30 right there and with mixbox you get several models of each

    I use it. I dissect it. It is a tad CPU heavy on my older iPad but if I’m using it as a specific or master effect it works just fine - no 3 or more instances for me.

    I have to admit I reach for other effects more often BUT that’s because I constantly tinker and experiment.

    IK have decent reputation and I’m sure this situation gave many a bad taste, however ever I see zero issues now or with purchasing any of their software.

  • @richardyot said:
    A few posts from the thread on this subject (https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/48180/don-t-update-mixbox-if-you-have-purchased/):

    You get the idea :)

    So @richardyot I’ve held off updating all this time. Does the update (fix/etc) solve the plugin ID issue and allow sessions made before the freemium update to be recalled properly?

  • I like it for vocals. Just cos it’s fast to try out different gadgets. A lot faster than building up chains of auv3’s.
    I go for the 78 followed by the LA2 just because I’m totally biased and it seems to be some kind of standard. To be honest I don’t think I’d be able to tell an LA2 from the Fairchild one, or a “great sounding eq” from another one… We should do some mega blind-test.

  • @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @richardyot said:
    A few posts from the thread on this subject (https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/48180/don-t-update-mixbox-if-you-have-purchased/):

    You get the idea :)

    So @richardyot I’ve held off updating all this time. Does the update (fix/etc) solve the plugin ID issue and allow sessions made before the freemium update to be recalled properly?

    Yes the issues are completely resolved, you can update it with confidence.

  • @Jamie_Mallender said:
    When you do the maths, it’s the best value for money app on iOS.

    True, but you are "putting all your egss in one basket".

    If they stop development on the app or there is a bug or some other problem you have lost all of your FX in one hit. But, if the price is right it might not be a big deal.

    I would buy it at the reduced price but I've just got so many other FX that I probably wouldn't use it. When you've got 20 reverbs (or whatever) do you need one more...?

  • @Simon said:

    @Jamie_Mallender said:
    When you do the maths, it’s the best value for money app on iOS.

    True, but you are "putting all your egss in one basket".

    If they stop development on the app or there is a bug or some other problem you have lost all of your FX in one hit. But, if the price is right it might not be a big deal.

    I would buy it at the reduced price but I've just got so many other FX that I probably wouldn't use it. When you've got 20 reverbs (or whatever) do you need one more...?

    Mixbox is pretty special imo and sort of its own island to me, compared to other plugins. I think it’s worth the grab. It’s a solid collection.

    @richardyot said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @richardyot said:
    A few posts from the thread on this subject (https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/48180/don-t-update-mixbox-if-you-have-purchased/):

    You get the idea :)

    So @richardyot I’ve held off updating all this time. Does the update (fix/etc) solve the plugin ID issue and allow sessions made before the freemium update to be recalled properly?

    Yes the issues are completely resolved, you can update it with confidence.

    Thanks. So just to go overboard with the clarity, I’ll be able open old (pre update) sessions with no issues? It’ll recall everything etc?

  • @ipadbeatmaking said:
    Mixbox is pretty special imo and sort of its own island to me, compared to other plugins. I think it’s worth the grab. It’s a solid collection.

    Yeah - it is nice when you find an app that really "clicks" with you. And Mixbox does look lke it would be nice to use.

  • @ipadbeatmaking said:
    Thanks. So just to go overboard with the clarity, I’ll be able open old (pre update) sessions with no issues? It’ll recall everything etc?

    Yes 👍

  • MixBox is an amazing and essential app. The presets alone for drum busses, vocal busses, saturation modules, glues, etc… make it worth the price of admission. Nothing on iOS is expensive, so I don’t get the complaints about $20 or $40 products. The value is unbelievable, regardless of desktop prices by comparison.

    When MixBox fell apart for a few weeks I wasn’t using it in that time. If I had been, I would have been extremely angry. It’s not about people getting angry too quickly or IK’s history of not dealing with problems quickly or professionally. It’s not really about any of that. The problem is stability and being able to depend on stuff. If iOS music production wants to be more than a hobby, then we need to be able to fully depend on it! So many of us have professional level home studios that primarily use iOS. Processing power and development has skyrocketed in the last 5 years or so, and it’s fully possible now to have a professional mobile studio with an iPad. So apps and projects breaking down or getting lost forever is simply not acceptable, and as a result people are rightfully skittish and skeptical. By the way, IK and MixBox aren’t the only issues here. Apps break down and malfunction all the time, since developers have to be active and keep up with iOS updates and changes. The whole thing is a bit scary, because it makes you feel unsafe as a creator. I have re-opened so many projects in GarageBand or Auria Pro or whatever that I’ve worked on for months, only to see the whole thing crash and burn because the plugins or host are malfunctioning, in transition, etc…

    So my advice for everything iOS is just to finish projects, print them, mix them down, as soon as possible. That way no matter what happens in the ecosystem, your project and its sounds are printed. It’s just a matter of time until IK or whoever strategizes to make more money, changes things around, causes another fiasco. It’s just the volatile nature of the iOS platform.

    Now about TONEX, I cannot get it to sound good or behave with other apps in the chain, like in AUM It’s unbelievably noisy, when combined with other AUv3s. I’ll post a clip sometime in the future, but besides some of the Tonex captures feeling and sounding great on their own, the app is incredibly limited and limiting. Tonex could have been a module inside MixBox, it could have been a rig player inside Amplitube. Instead, it’s just a profile loader and player of the desktop version. I’m fine with the free version.

  • @Jamie_Mallender said:

    @Slush said:

    @ghost_forests said:
    At 39 £$€ it’s an absolute steal imo, if you consider what a single app can cost these days (and that’s not a complaint).

    €47,99

    Agreed. When you do the maths, it’s the best value for money app on iOS.

    It is.

  • @CapnWillie said:
    It’s always astonishing to me how some folks love making huge deals out of small things. IMo, it’s a personality thing and usually a very vocal yet super tiny and insignificant minority.

    Go Google or search YouTube for Mixbox, Mixbox update, etc and see what you find. I bet you’ll have to put effort into finding any significant audience of users butthurt about that dust up. ABf is likely to be the only place you’ll find pages of people butthurt about that update other than IK official statements or a few comments on their forum. Just a hunch.

    You know why? The grand majority of people love Mixbox. You know why? Mixbox is amazing.

    You know what else? Only noobs don’t know better than to have auto update switched on for essential apps. So, most serious users or people with marginal experience were unaffected…because they never updated and had their projects ruined. Simple.

    That isn’t to excuse IK for their mistake. They did what they did and handled it how they handled it. They don’t need me or anyone to defend or excuse them. They make millions selling software so they must be sorta good at it.lol. My thing is about personal accountability and responsibility. If you have clients or invest a lot of time and effort into a project, it’s YOUR responsibility to make sure it is saved, backed up and protected. Clients don’t wanna hear “I finished your project but Ik update broke it”. Boy bye. Step into my office, you’re fired asshole. That’s how real life works.

    It’s not about reasons or excuses. It’s about accountability. If you auto update apps you need or are core to your workflow…you’re probably a noob, a moron or ignorant to your settings. Either way… YOU need to Do better. That is what you can control. You can’t control IK or software stability. Literally digital creative 101.

    If you can’t be bothered to very simply wait until updates are tested and found to be stable and solid in the wild…who cares about your projects? Clearly you didn’t.😩🤦🏽‍♂️😂💀

    You are not going to find any serious graphic artist, programmer, producer, beatmaker, or anyone marginally intelligent or responsible who autoupdates software essential to their work. Further, you definitely aren’t serious or care about your projects if you don’t back them up.

    Noob shit. If you knew better you’d do better.

    *Edit

    Ironically, GospelMusicians just released an official apology for an update issue that affects those who updated. It happens. A lot. If it hasn’t happened to software you use, you don’t use much software or it just hasn’t happened yet. Very simple way to remain unaffected is to simply wait a bit on updating. Literally doing nothing is the easiest thing in the world to do lol. Why do some folks have such a hard time with that? Rhetorical.

    I spend a great deal of time telling people not to update anything. iOS Facebook forums are full of people complaining that an update broke something. There are people I have told repeatedly to hang back, but they never do. Because iOS works the way it does with updates to both apps and err… itself, this is a constantly recurring conversation. On my desktop I have software that has had updates ages ago, but it works and I’m using it for my job. When ive got time (like whenever that might be!) I’ll Google to see if those updates are ok and then I’ll maybe get them.

  • @JoyceRoadStudios said:
    MixBox is an amazing and essential app. The presets alone for drum busses, vocal busses, saturation modules, glues, etc… make it worth the price of admission. Nothing on iOS is expensive, so I don’t get the complaints about $20 or $40 products. The value is unbelievable, regardless of desktop prices by comparison.

    When MixBox fell apart for a few weeks I wasn’t using it in that time. If I had been, I would have been extremely angry. It’s not about people getting angry too quickly or IK’s history of not dealing with problems quickly or professionally. It’s not really about any of that. The problem is stability and being able to depend on stuff. If iOS music production wants to be more than a hobby, then we need to be able to fully depend on it! So many of us have professional level home studios that primarily use iOS. Processing power and development has skyrocketed in the last 5 years or so, and it’s fully possible now to have a professional mobile studio with an iPad. So apps and projects breaking down or getting lost forever is simply not acceptable, and as a result people are rightfully skittish and skeptical. By the way, IK and MixBox aren’t the only issues here. Apps break down and malfunction all the time, since developers have to be active and keep up with iOS updates and changes. The whole thing is a bit scary, because it makes you feel unsafe as a creator. I have re-opened so many projects in GarageBand or Auria Pro or whatever that I’ve worked on for months, only to see the whole thing crash and burn because the plugins or host are malfunctioning, in transition, etc…

    So my advice for everything iOS is just to finish projects, print them, mix them down, as soon as possible. That way no matter what happens in the ecosystem, your project and its sounds are printed. It’s just a matter of time until IK or whoever strategizes to make more money, changes things around, causes another fiasco. It’s just the volatile nature of the iOS platform.

    Now about TONEX, I cannot get it to sound good or behave with other apps in the chain, like in AUM It’s unbelievably noisy, when combined with other AUv3s. I’ll post a clip sometime in the future, but besides some of the Tonex captures feeling and sounding great on their own, the app is incredibly limited and limiting. Tonex could have been a module inside MixBox, it could have been a rig player inside Amplitube. Instead, it’s just a profile loader and player of the desktop version. I’m fine with the free version.

    Maybe I can help you with ToneX. I think it’s brilliant, but I wasn’t sure at first. In my video on it I went to great lengths to detail exactly what it is and what it isn’t. I could tell from comments online that people weren’t using it quite right. Is it the dirty amps that are noisy for you? Like extreme amp hiss?

  • @Samu said:
    While I do like MixBox my 'problem' is that I many times forget I have it installed :sunglasses:

    Absolutely @Samu, that’s seriously no joke. I’ve been using iOS music production apps pretty much exclusively in my home studio since 2015 and have bought literally hundreds of iOS music apps. Far too often I’ll be working on something and I’ll scroll through my apps looking for something and get fogged over.

    MixBox to me is like the DDMF apps. They sound phenomenal but because they “just” compress, EQ, etc they get forgotten & overlooked.

    One thing I have done is make some templates in Cubasis 3 that has MixBox inserted to several tracks, that way it’s like having a super channel setup and ready to go.

  • What I like about mixbox is that I can quickly load a preset and see how people who probably actually knew what they're doing set up their signal chain :D Also, I don't have to think about which plugin to use and dig through the huge list of plugins when I just want to add a generic effect, so I often just add mixbox as an initial placeholder. and often I end up never changing it afterwards...

    @CapnWillie said:
    ABf is likely to be the only place you’ll find pages of people butthurt about that update other than IK official statements or a few comments on their forum. Just a hunch.
    You know why?

    because audiobus forum is by far the busiest place to talk about ios music apps, and because the reaction from IK that upset people took place within this forum? ;)

    do invest in a robust auto archiving solution.

    reminder to myself to update my iMazing backups :)

  • @CapnWillie said:

    @dobbs said:

    because audiobus forum is by far the busiest place to talk about ios music apps, and because the reaction from IK that upset people took place within this forum? ;)

    Good point. However, If true that ABf is the busiest, that would largely be due to how much engagement there was with top app devs in the earlier days laying the foundation for what this place became. Those around since those days remember the mass exodus of devs from these parts and know that it is directly tied to how bitchy members here were to them when mistakes, mishaps or dislike of certain updates or lack of occurred.

    Still, I would agree this place is the best for app convo for sure and luckily, much of the super hype and weird juvenile bitching over nothing has cooled down of late.

    Again, that’s not to say people weren’t and aren’t entitled to complaining or giving feedback about how something they paid for impacts them. They most certainly are. That is a right I believe is important and should be protected.

    However, I just wish people were more self aware and understanding about how valuable dev engagement was/is. It really was so unique to this place. Shout to the ones who are still around.

    IK was always responsive and engaging here. The fact remains that this community would benefit a lot more from their continued presence here than the other way. Unfortunately, it’s too late now and I don’t blame them or the others for being scarce now.

    Excellent post. People’s ability to express an opinion about something they’ve purchased is essential - it helps others make informed decisions and provides feedback for developers to further improve their products. It’s one of the best things about the internet and forums like this. It’s the way some people choose to express those opinions that I take exception to. There is never a need to be unpleasant or insulting. It’s a minority that go that route but they are the people responsible for the absence of some developers and YouTubers here. I’m in touch with a lot of developers and other YouTubers because of the videos I make. This forum is a dirty word to some of them. Me, I’m pretty robust. The longer you spend in the music business, the thicker your skin gets. Not everyone is made that way.

  • What’s the opinion on the SE version and does it go on sale with the other Mixbox sales? Standard version is a bit much for my blood but SE seems like a decent value at $20 and if it goes on sale for 50% that’s a really nice value. Anyone tried it?

  • If you can afford to wait, it seems like there have been some pretty significant discounts on it in the past — especially on the full version.

    I would never pay $79.99 for the full, but I do have it, so I’m guessing I was able to upgrade it for at most $20-30 on a Black Friday sale in the past.

    Savings comes to those who wait 🤗

  • The filters are a little disappointing and I wish it had oversampling but I overall love it and use it a lot for mixing and just keep an eye on my levels. I would have bought it just for the 1176, pultec, 660, and 2a cos they sound really good. Having the full version is nice, I think I got it for $40 on sale but don’t remember when. I also haven’t bought the extra reverbs yet but they’re great too, I’ve tried them out on desktop before

  • @SNystrom said:
    If you can afford to wait, it seems like there have been some pretty significant discounts on it in the past — especially on the full version.

    I would never pay $79.99 for the full, but I do have it, so I’m guessing I was able to upgrade it for at most $20-30 on a Black Friday sale in the past.

    Savings comes to those who wait 🤗

    I’m not in a huge hurry for it, as I have separate effects for what it does but I do think it sounds good and its convenient. I’m hoping it goes on sale before then but I definitely can’t get it for the full $80 right now.

  • @Fingolfinzz said:
    The filters are a little disappointing and I wish it had oversampling but I overall love it and use it a lot for mixing and just keep an eye on my levels. I would have bought it just for the 1176, pultec, 660, and 2a cos they sound really good. Having the full version is nice, I think I got it for $40 on sale but don’t remember when. I also haven’t bought the extra reverbs yet but they’re great too, I’ve tried them out on desktop before

    Are those full version only?

  • @HotStrange said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    The filters are a little disappointing and I wish it had oversampling but I overall love it and use it a lot for mixing and just keep an eye on my levels. I would have bought it just for the 1176, pultec, 660, and 2a cos they sound really good. Having the full version is nice, I think I got it for $40 on sale but don’t remember when. I also haven’t bought the extra reverbs yet but they’re great too, I’ve tried them out on desktop before

    Are those full version only?

    Yeah mostly, the 2a comes with the se version but the se version does have saturator x which is very nice as well. If you’re wanting it for creative stuff, the se does come with quite a few but if you're wanting it for the mixing and emulations, go for the full version and wait for a sale

  • edited May 2023

    What I like is the strong hardware feeling Rack 500 pretty fun, I got a SE for free as I bought years ago IK keyboard.

    I tried it and never use it really perhaps just to had fun to an instrument. I wasn’t impressed by the effect provided in SE . But it was fun really well made as emulation of Rack 500.

  • @Fingolfinzz said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Fingolfinzz said:
    The filters are a little disappointing and I wish it had oversampling but I overall love it and use it a lot for mixing and just keep an eye on my levels. I would have bought it just for the 1176, pultec, 660, and 2a cos they sound really good. Having the full version is nice, I think I got it for $40 on sale but don’t remember when. I also haven’t bought the extra reverbs yet but they’re great too, I’ve tried them out on desktop before

    Are those full version only?

    Yeah mostly, the 2a comes with the se version but the se version does have saturator x which is very nice as well. If you’re wanting it for creative stuff, the se does come with quite a few but if you're wanting it for the mixing and emulations, go for the full version and wait for a sale

    Thanks! I’m more after the creative stuff so maybe SE is the way to go for me.

  • Wonder if IK is ever gonna put this on sale again? It hasn’t been on sale in a loooong time.

  • The desktop version is currently only $29 at audio plugin.deals.

  • @klownshed said:
    The desktop version is currently only $29 at audio plugin.deals.

    Merci!

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