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Need adaptor that does gtr audio > adaptor > iPad > adaptor > MIDI
Hi,
So I have an iPad mini 5, and I have successfully run these signal chains:
guitar audio > Apogee Jam > Apple CCK > Apple lightning adaptor > iPad Mini 5 > headphone audio out
And also
iPad Mini 5 > iRig MIDI (pretty old)
And I've happily run the MIDI Guitar 2 app with AUM to use the guitar to play iOS virtual instruments.
Well, now I want to do MIDI guitar with Akai MPC virtual instruments. Yeah, the Bluetooth works. But not reliably and with some latency.
So I want to keep things wired.
Are there any recommendations for taking in the audio from the Apogee Jam, pumping audio into the iPad, and sending the MIDI out? (I'll get audio via the iPad headphone.) I know there are full MIDI and Audio interfaces. I want something cheaper and smaller.
Some iRig adaptors out there seem to be what I need.
Any advice?
Thanks!
Comments
If you are happy with your Apogee interface, get a usb hub and inexpensive usb midi interface.
Thx
I'd rather find out why Bluetooth has issues in your setup. Used for MIDI only it works great here as long as I don't send huge amounts of MIDI data over it.
I think last time I tried, I could not get MIDI from the iPad to come through USB to the MPC. IIRC, that’s why I dug out the old iRig MIDI just to get MIDI coming from the iPad without resorting to Bluetooth.
It is very unreliable. I'm using an Akai MPC Key 61 and an iPad Mini 5. Running the latest OS. It'll work for awhile. Then if I play something besides my guitar, in a few minutes the Bluetooth can get dropped by either the MPC or the iPad.
There's also latency. I haven't dedicated effort to see if it is worthwhile to tweak on the MIDI Guitar 2 app. But apart from using it with the MPC or with Bluetooth, it used to be good enough.
MIDI going from the iPad via Irig MIDI and 5 pin wires to MPC is completely reliable.
Hm, good to know.
Flaky connections can have many causes...
Got it. Thanks to the convo here! Had to add something connected to the USB hub as a slave and that handled MIDI cords. The Microfreak (yes, Microfreak) fit that bill.
This chain works
guitar audio > Apogee Jam > USB hub > Apple CCK > Apple lightning adaptor > iPad Mini 5 > AUM
With respect to the iPad,
Apogee Jam > AUM > Headphones out for audio
AUM > MIDI Guitar 2 > Apple CCK > Apple lightning adaptor > USB hub > Microfreak > MIDI cords > MPC
With MPC, the MIDI comes through just fine via its MPC 5-pin inputs. That MIDI can now control MPC MIDI instruments. And the original bass audio comes in as well through another path I won't bore you with.
Latency seems pretty good. Will experiment more to confirm how good.
Thanks again.
FWIW, MIDI is still the most cumbersome hassle in the gear world. After a decade or so, I'm only starting to understand what a MIDI host is and that it has female ports, and what a MIDI slave is and it has male ports.
And I am learning that sometimes even if you do everything right, some gear won't cooperate. In this case, the MPC standalone won't handle the Mac MIDI via USB. (MPC also doesn't do audio via USB in standalone.)
Amen, at least for the use case you describe. I think it’s fair to say that you dabble in edge cases. I do too!
This setup will also let me integrate MPC and iPad music setup well. WIll handle MIDI in and out, guitar or other real instruments in and out, and handle iPad audio out.
FYI, I picked up an iRig Pro I/O today. Looks like it completely meets the need on this thread in a small package.