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Definitely enjoyed that one too. I guess I'm an outlier. I didn't hate Jared Leto in it. I felt like the way he measured his words, the cadence of his speech being robotic, given who his character was, seemed right to me. I actually enjoyed the short film they released ahead of the movie.
But I can see how that affected speech could be grating to a lot of people.
There has been a spate of posts in the last week that look as if they are AI-generated, either by some kind of bot or by an old-fashioned troll. If you want some examples there are two discussions still up you can check out:
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/1169755
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/1169935
There have been other posts as well, some of which have since been deleted.
This is obviously a problem, because it means the mods now have to waste their time trying to parse through these kinds of posts to establish if they're real or not, and also because this kind of content lowers the usefulness of the forum by lowering the signal-to-noise ratio. The more spam there is here, the less useful the forum is. You could imagine a situation where people might even stop visiting if the spam gets out of control.
Definitely - unfortunately ppl will need to tag someone like @CapnWillie, as I did a few hours ago, to draw their attention to likely bots and warn or ban.
I guess this is the real AI future we can look forward to. Wading through astroturfed bollocks everywhere we turn…
Guilty as chargeddddddddddd 🔋
Interesting. Thanks, yeah, I'd seen the first of those discussions, didn't read far because the original post seemed odd, but didn't at the time chalk it up to AI. I wonder if these things are automated, or if there's a person on the other end sticking this stuff into ChatGPT or similar AI and manually posting this stuff. I suppose it could be automated (and if not someone will automate in the future), on the other hand I can easily picture a person playing with a chatbot and manually relaying its responses to the forum.
It will be interesting to see what solutions will emerge to handle an unlimited amount of close-to-human-quality, automated spam content.
Gmail has been gradually optimised over the years and is now doing an almost flawless job keeping my inbox spam-free - but this is fast becoming a different beast altogether. I'm optimistic though, there will be something on offer against it as well.
It’s not even clear to me what the point of those bot interventions were, other than to just sucker people in to wasting time engaging with them. Vague, semi-credible noob questions, specific enough in the fairly esoteric field of IOS music production to sound credible at first glance… ? At least there is presumably some personal satisfaction for a troll in directly ragging on someone. This feels more like a ‘proof of concept’ for something bigger, or something. Some weird attention sink research exercise?
Well whoever it is, they're still at it. Currently polluting the FabFilter Saturn thread.
I really think it's just a troll who is having fun pranking us. But I guess it could be something more sinister: researchers trying to create a bot that can blend into any community without being detected. If that's the case they still have work to do. 🤷♀️
This sci-fi magazine has suspended story submissions this month due to the amount of bot generated stories they started getting.
http://neil-clarke.com/a-concerning-trend/
Yes I am
I think more should be written about the Anglo-Australian border wars:
Or not even really pranking. Just testing out ChatGPT and seeing how well it can do in exchanges on technical subjects with people who don't know it's a bot. In that case, though, you'd think they might change some of the giveaway formalisms. Or maybe not.
I’m just a noboty
This and fakery will be an ever increasing problem that at the moment only hints at the potential future threat to truth and trust.
That’s a rather disturbing image…
[spits coffee]
Oh.
Are the folks posting these kind of chat bot things trying to mine well intentioned responses so they can harvest “content” to monetize it via websites or content articles?
I see so much of this in the fancy pens and journals sections of Reddit. They all remind me of those kids who do book reports by asking aunts and uncles about some classic book and harvesting everything they can get them to say.
I sure miss the good old days where devaluing everything into “content” was somewhat better hidden by the content harvesters and repackages. 😡
I’m not a bot. I just do a really good impression of a “get off of my lawn” bot at times.
The humans are dead.
On one politically-charged forum I follow, I think the bots improved the discourse, but that's not saying much.
On this forum, I suspect most bots are intended to be harmless experiments. A lot of this forum's members are dabbling in generative music and automation, and it's tempting to see what happens with text. Reminds me of the game werewolf, with unwitting villagers.
I'm just guessing... Maybe some of the bots are homework assignments...
Whatever the motivation, I think it's inconsiderate (except on April Fools).
AI tools, voices etcetera in my noises: yes. I find the pace and direction these things are moving in creatively very interesting. ( And, hey, I can’t play anything, so there’s that.)
AI text bots passing themselves off as time wasting idiots on the forum?: hard no.
Spoken like a bot.
Fine words butter no parsnips. <----------- better than any AI efforts!
Good point! I had thought of it more as a kind of prankster trolling / testing how easily they'd be discovered. But the idea that they're coming in to build up content for their websites etc makes sense. Let's face it, most so-called music plugin review websites are very poor quality, just a verbatim copy, perhaps with the odd alteration here and there, of the app's release blurb, with an affiliate link somewhere in the 'review'.
And yeah most of what we are referring to here as bots are most likely hybrids of real people using a bit of ChatGpt. It's strange, a few mins of tweaking would be enough to make their comments pretty convincing, so I wonder why they aren't doing that.
We could all be echobots, the corruption in the code, the last remaining trace of something long extinct.
Action to remedy this or not, we may very well differ.
Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.
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Here we go.... battle of the bots.