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Down ‘n dirty IOptigan / CR78 action: Someone To Watch Over Me
“You can’t keep running away from love. Eventually, it will catch up to you.”
A nasty, dark, fuzzed up little slice of my version of Witch House here. Trigger warning re stalking/abusive behaviour. Sorry. It’s just the story that seemed to want to be told today…
All the talk of IOptigan and my own rememberance of the CR78 preset on the Funk Box got me to re-download both, and well, this is what happened. Vocals courtesy of Elevenlab, via Voice Synth and AudioStretch. Sequencing by Atom. Fuzz guitars from Flowtones and Saga. Mastered live into AudioShare from loops I made in AUM. No guitars, keyboards, or live human vocalists were harmed in the making of this noise.
- …Would/is this track better with the AI vocals/story?5 votes
- Yes, it needs them60.00%
- No, this would work better as an instrumental40.00%
Comments
lot of contained "violence" in this one.
As usual your perfectly master the genre. This is a great piece of music even if I'm still not fan of the voice.
Funny, I ended up pulling out the ioptigan app yesterday and had fun sampling some of the sounds to make pads etc from them. I've also been playing around with drums (ruismaker noir in this case). Do we have an Omnichord app though?
This track is very cool as usual, Irena, tho like Jo I would probably also prefer without vocals!
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/29954/polyharp-looks-very-interesting-anyone-using/p2
Looks likely to be the best thing similar to Omnichord
@Gavinski
I don't know much about Omnichord, but I would guess Chordion would fit the bill
https://www.olympianoiseco.com/apps/chordion/
Also... isn't the old Polychord inspired by the Omnichord?
https://apps.apple.com/app/polychord/id402625491
@Svetlovska really digging the vibe on this. Really love the CR78
Love this, I must dig ioptigan out agai…n!
Disagree about the vocals. Without them this wouldn't have nearly the creepy ominous vibe. The choice of voice also fits the character being portrayed.
You had me riveted to this one throughout. 👍🏼
Yes they're all things that came up when I searched the app store. Polyharp is very cool but I can't be doing with the glitching on retriggering strings and have yet to find a way around that. Do those other instruments have the same issues?
I really dig this - it takes me back to some of the rare / excellent records I'd buy in the 80's often based off of the covers and unheard till home that were compelling and sometimes scary stuff. Heavy nostalgia there.
Re: the vocals my answer to the poll question is Both: a 'dub mix' treatment to the vocals would make them even more ominous than they already are in a "did I just hear what I think I heard?" sense. Obscuring some of the meaning would be powerful. There's a bit of magic that happens at 5:02 - 5:15 which is exactly what I'm talking about: the shift from big wall of noise to abstracted vocal over minimal beats. Great stuff!
Polychord I don't have. Maybe I have the mini version on an old device. gonna check out in a few hours (my device isnt here)
Chordion I havent been using a long time. Gonna do a check on what you said, but from what I recall it doesnt have that issue.
And im not sure if I dreamt it or I read it somewhere that @benkamen from olympia was working on a version 2?
I feel a little differently about the vocals. I find most of the lyrics interesting but the quality of the AI treament of them bumps me out of the good vibes established by the music, I've liked the AI lyrics in other pieces of yours though.
I definitely like the 'near' mode of Polyharp - not needing to be super accurate. I also like that in 'near' mode I can either tap or strum. Just want no glitchiness if I play fast and free.
Opens up a lot of my imagination.
Truly a very emotional and creepy creation.
You are an artist, and I appreciate your work.
Thank you for this creation.
Rene
I love this one! Definitely benefits from the vocals, imo. Makes it even more haunting. I don’t use iOptigan as much since I got Sampletron. But maybe I need to break it out for the fun of it. Definitely great for experimentation.
Whelp…. I guess the decisiveness of the poll depends on whether I consider it in percentage terms (a decisive 66% in favour of the vocals!) or absolute votes: err… 2 in favour, one against…
I agree with the likes of @Gavinski, @gkillmaster and @jo92346 to the extent that if it is dark ambient I am aiming for, vocals are a mistake, because they do definitely take you out of the atmospherics any kind of ambient seems to foster.
The trouble is, when I’m not making unlistenable dins, I’m writing unpublishable horrors, and sometimes the urge to tell a story overwhelms my intent, and the noise becomes a backing for a story. As I can’t sing, and do not play well with others, this presents a conundrum, which my experiments with AI voices is an uneven attempt to solve.
In the present case, I’m inclined to think without the vocal this would have been too much of a punky distortion roarfest to have been, ah, ‘pleasurable’ on its own, anyway. So I am glad I have @wim , @ReneAsologuitar and @HotStrange in my corner. And I particular appreciate @Proppa for the ‘both’ observation (as it reflects my own ambivalence), and because I agree about the little bit of chiascuro that comes in at the end.
If I had a more considered workflow, I’d go back and do more of that, I think. Ah well, next time.
I also got a little warm glow from @jo92346 picking up on a vibe of ‘contained violence’ as that was exactly what I was going for. In spirit, if not anywhere near as competent in execution, as something lying between these two fine pieces of storytelling through the medium of contained violence:
As ever, much thanks to all who contributed their thoughts on this. Next one will be noises without words, promise!
Man Henry Rollins AND Suicide. You’re namedropping some absolute favorites of mine right there.
Always thoroughly enjoy your tracks. I make experimental stuff as well so it’s nice to see others doing the same. Especially since I think iOS is perfect for that kind of thing. Maybe I need to start dropping some tracks occasionally (whenever I finally finish one I don’t delete lol)
Wow! “Every Breath You Take” has nothing on this! Creepy in the best possible sense. The mix is excellent, it can be hard to mix heavy distortion with reverbs & delays but every element has its own room to breathe. Love that low “fog horn” like sound. Great job man…