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Yeah the 800 looks tempting, it’s supposed to start shipping next month I believe…
VERY menu divey. I mean, why wouldnt you:
Ah, okay 😮
I've had the chance to get my hands on one for an hour (that was in 2020), playing it wearing headphones and it sounded incredible! They had two Prophets and an OB-6 next to it, tried them too and in terms of "analog", "fat", "warm" and "beefy", the Prologue was my favorite.
I did like the sequential knob panels a bit better but the Prologue panel is nice and clean enough to have a good time with.
The Minilogue XD is a really fun synth too but 4 voices just isn't enough for today's chords
Doesn't fit all your requirements, but you could look at some of the classic Roland rackmounts. An MKS-30 or MKS-50 can be found for $1200 or less. I'm mostly iPad only right now, but I don't see myself getting rid of my MKS-50, it just sounds so good.
I’d go for a Prophet 12 desktop. Hybrid but incredibly versatile and good value. Not that many knobs but meant to have a clever and effective workflow.
There's a used Deepmind 12 on sale at Guitar Center closeby. I'll check it out.
My thinking now is that find a good quality poly analog with strong presets would satisfy this itch. I know that Moog and Sequential products would sound better, but for now this should be good.
I could wait for the Pro 800. We'll see.
If any Deepmind owners have thoughts on the pros and cons, please advise!
I know that Moog and Sequential products would sound better - Nope.
The Deepmind sounds great. Check this comparison video.
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Brevity is the sole of wit.
TBH, one of my issues is I have only bought Behringer clone stuff -- Model D and RD-9. Very happy with it. I haven't thought of the brand as producing its own worthy models. Just haven't really looked into it.
I like Starsky's video, thanks! I'll check it out.
So Deepmind also can do Juno?https://youtu.be/W1OrME6w7nQ
Or should I even think of it in terms of the tone from other synths?
Not what you are asking but Id maybe buy this and just be ok with ios synths. Although theres obviously better hardware synths than ios ( in ways )
You can hear the oscilators but not quite.
I've been researching the DSI Tetra. I see them priced at $650, not $500. Putting price aside, I am trying to decide between the Tetra and the Dreadbox Nymphes. Tetra has 4 voices with 2 oscillators per voice. Nymphes has 6 voices but only 1 osc / voice. Nymphes is cheaper ($450 new) and still in production. Tetra is discontinued (tougher to fix if repairs are needed).
Do you have any thoughts about the relative merits of these 2 options?
I had a Tetra, sold it to buy a Vermona Perfourmer. I never really liked the sound of his synths - I prefer a thicker creamier Moog-like sound. Never tried the Nymphes, but the Erebus, it had that 60s thick analog sound.
Never tried one but the Parva is another tiny multitimbral analog synth. I think the company may not be in business any longer.
There's this new analog polysynth. 7 voice polyphony, multitimbral (4 parts). interesting. $1700.
https://www.perfectcircuit.com/gs-music-gs-e7-blue.html
Personally I'd go for a desktop poly with more hands-on controls than the Tetra. You can get an Analog Four MKI for around $550 usd, which makes a great Poly now that they added the voice routing options. The Tetra is cool but patch editing on it is very painful.
The Nymphes is also a solid option. Its a pretty basic analog synth tone but it does that basic sound well.
I havent used a dreadbox, so i cannot comment, but they dont seem to be really in the same class being that 1 is only 1 voice, and the other can be up to 4. Youre gonna have to go with what options you need and sound.
Also, i don't havent accounted for global inflation/reverb turdmops in used gear pricing. Prices vary greatly anymore, so be patient. One sold on ebay last month for 350$. That thing is not worth 650$.....
https://coffeeshopped.com/patch-base/editor/dave-smith-instruments/tetra
edit: and for your a4:
https://apps.apple.com/de/app/fragments-for-the-a4/id1459270982?l=en
Editors are useful (and I've made a number of my own in Lemur) but I think if you are getting a desktop synth I'd recommend getting one that has tangible controls. But it is personal preference.
The Nymphes is actually multi-modal. Can be operated in any of the modes below. (I don't know if it's the suboscillator or not, but even the 1 oscillator per voice modes sound pretty full):
Just walked out of GC with a used DeepMind 12 keyboard for $600. Sounded pretty darn good with good headphones and I look forward to checking it out this weekend. Also liked what I saw with the interaction of the controls and the LCD.
Nice 🙌🏽 congratulations!
Very nice. Folks that have them love them. You're a lucky man.
Congrats!
Surprised how heavy and sturdy the DP 12 is. I've installed the iPad app. Remains TBD if I end playing the DP 12 much directly or via my MPC Key 61.
I've only played the presets so far. I'm hankering to really feel the oscillators without effects next.
There are a lot of 3rd party patches for the DeepMind 12
Jorb recreated 128 Juno patches and has the download available free!
Awesome, thanks!
Congratulations it’s a great choice for the price range.
Honeymoon update:
So I've downloaded patches from Starsky Carr and Jorb for the Deep Mind, and played factory patches. TBH, most of the sounds were dull to my ears. And not punchy. Even worse, when compared to the plugins on my MPC, they didn't sound as good.
Then last night I created a patch from scratch. And then took a few of other patches I like most and made significant edits. Much better results! What has helped:
Regarding the effects, I strongly suspect I will make use of them. But for right now I want to really feel as much immediacy from the analog as possible. And frankly both my MPC AIR effects and certainly the Eventide H9 are better than the Deep Mind effects. At least better than what I do with the DP effects now, which ain't saying much.
Anyway, I feel much better today about the Deep Mind than I did yesterday. Why the patches from Mr. Carr and Jorb don't knock my socks off is a bit disconcerting, but there you have it.
Also, I have to say the slide controls and LCD feedback on the Deep Mind is really nice. If you already know subtractive synthesis, that part of jumping in and playing around will come reasonably fast. And I definitely anticipate getting very comfortable using the Deep Mind to perform and tweak simultaneously.
Cheers,
Joe
beast...MPE too
Analog. Poly. Budget. Tone. Pick any two, or if you’re a bit luckier, three.