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Where to find good IRs for a convolution reverb?

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  • GavinskiGavinski

    @NeuM said:

    @Krupa said:
    I keep meaning to get this:

    https://venustheory.gumroad.com/l/underworlds

    That could be a nice addition for anyone's IR library.

    I got this an there are some interesting ones there

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @NeuM said:
    Here's a few I've collected from various sources.

    Impulse responses by Fokke van Saane: https://fokkie.home.xs4all.nl/IR.htm

    Some great ones here too, yes!

  • andowritesandowrites

    @Schmotown said:
    I don’t think anyone has mentioned the Nembrini IR Loader. I tried the others and this one was the simplest and most intuitive while offering plenty of control. Excellent for guitar cabs, of course, but also as a general purpose host.

    Thanks. I'll take a look.

  • andowritesandowrites

    @NeuM said:

    @Krupa said:
    I keep meaning to get this:

    https://venustheory.gumroad.com/l/underworlds

    That could be a nice addition for anyone's IR library.

    Interesting. I love most of Cameron's output.

  • andowritesandowrites

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    Impulse Response files have been around a little while now. I was introduced to them through a few of the “guitar amp sim” apps we have on iOS like THU and GE Labs, which led me to apps like Thafknar and iConvolver -

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/iconvolver-impulse-response-reverb/id1042911823

    Now they’re everywhere, and there’s tons of apps that support loading IR files (Altispace, Rhino, etc)

    But I really got a crash course in IRs when a buddy of mine gave me this MOOER GE-200 multi-effects pedal, which is basically the hardware version of their iPad app “GE Labs”.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gelabs-effects-guitar-amps/id1506701208

    With this hardware (guitar effects pedal), I’m able to download and use 3rd party IR files, which then led me to “Premium” IR files such as those sold at “OwnHammer”. I ended up buying the “(r)evolution bundle” and IIRC it was like 25-30 bucks.

    There’s thousands of free IRs out there, sometimes you’ll find really good ones, but if you want premium, have a look at OwnHammer.
    https://www.ownhammer.com/impulseresponses/wav/eol.html

    Thank you for a really thorough response. I shall explore.

  • PxlhgPxlhg

    @andowrites said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    You could have just typed 'ir' in the search box. Plenty of results :)

    Thanks, I already did that, funnily enough.

    I wanted to know what's around now, today. Hence the post.

    You could of course, just ignored my post and not commented, also. :smile:

    Have a great day. Hope it gets better.

    Fair point. Thank you, I'll hope so too.

  • hacked_to_pieceshacked_to_pieces

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    Impulse Response files have been around a little while now. I was introduced to them through a few of the “guitar amp sim” apps we have on iOS like THU and GE Labs, which led me to apps like Thafknar and iConvolver -

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/iconvolver-impulse-response-reverb/id1042911823

    Now they’re everywhere, and there’s tons of apps that support loading IR files (Altispace, Rhino, etc)

    But I really got a crash course in IRs when a buddy of mine gave me this MOOER GE-200 multi-effects pedal, which is basically the hardware version of their iPad app “GE Labs”.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gelabs-effects-guitar-amps/id1506701208

    With this hardware (guitar effects pedal), I’m able to download and use 3rd party IR files, which then led me to “Premium” IR files such as those sold at “OwnHammer”. I ended up buying the “(r)evolution bundle” and IIRC it was like 25-30 bucks.

    There’s thousands of free IRs out there, sometimes you’ll find really good ones, but if you want premium, have a look at OwnHammer.
    https://www.ownhammer.com/impulseresponses/wav/eol.html

    I find the OwnHammer impulse are great for guitar cab simulations but for reverbs I find that IR designed specifically for reverb tend to give better results.

  • hacked_to_pieceshacked_to_pieces

    http://signaltonoize.com/?page_id=4188
    https://fokkie.home.xs4all.nl/IR.htm
    http://www.dubbhism.org/search/label/impulse responses
    http://www.echothief.com/
    http://www.airwindows.com/airwindows-impulses/
    https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2014/06/03/percussive-echoes-bonus/

  • andowritesandowrites

    @Pxlhg said:

    @andowrites said:

    @Pxlhg said:
    You could have just typed 'ir' in the search box. Plenty of results :)

    Thanks, I already did that, funnily enough.

    I wanted to know what's around now, today. Hence the post.

    You could of course, just ignored my post and not commented, also. :smile:

    Have a great day. Hope it gets better.

    Fair point. Thank you, I'll hope so too.

    :)

  • andowritesandowrites

    @hacked_to_pieces said:
    http://signaltonoize.com/?page_id=4188
    https://fokkie.home.xs4all.nl/IR.htm
    http://www.dubbhism.org/search/label/impulse responses
    http://www.echothief.com/
    http://www.airwindows.com/airwindows-impulses/
    https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2014/06/03/percussive-echoes-bonus/

    That's quite some list. Thank you!

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    Impulse Response files have been around a little while now. I was introduced to them through a few of the “guitar amp sim” apps we have on iOS like THU and GE Labs, which led me to apps like Thafknar and iConvolver -

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/iconvolver-impulse-response-reverb/id1042911823

    Now they’re everywhere, and there’s tons of apps that support loading IR files (Altispace, Rhino, etc)

    But I really got a crash course in IRs when a buddy of mine gave me this MOOER GE-200 multi-effects pedal, which is basically the hardware version of their iPad app “GE Labs”.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gelabs-effects-guitar-amps/id1506701208

    With this hardware (guitar effects pedal), I’m able to download and use 3rd party IR files, which then led me to “Premium” IR files such as those sold at “OwnHammer”. I ended up buying the “(r)evolution bundle” and IIRC it was like 25-30 bucks.

    There’s thousands of free IRs out there, sometimes you’ll find really good ones, but if you want premium, have a look at OwnHammer.
    https://www.ownhammer.com/impulseresponses/wav/eol.html

    Check out their note on the top of that web page:

    "In Q2 of 2023 the OwnHammer website will be moving to a new server system in preparation for the launch of software products, at which time the wave audio format impulse response library product catalog will be rebooted. Items listed on this page will not be transferred to it nor made available from it, so now is the last time to pick these up before they ride permanently off into the sunset!"

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @NeuM said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    Impulse Response files have been around a little while now. I was introduced to them through a few of the “guitar amp sim” apps we have on iOS like THU and GE Labs, which led me to apps like Thafknar and iConvolver -

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/iconvolver-impulse-response-reverb/id1042911823

    Now they’re everywhere, and there’s tons of apps that support loading IR files (Altispace, Rhino, etc)

    But I really got a crash course in IRs when a buddy of mine gave me this MOOER GE-200 multi-effects pedal, which is basically the hardware version of their iPad app “GE Labs”.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gelabs-effects-guitar-amps/id1506701208

    With this hardware (guitar effects pedal), I’m able to download and use 3rd party IR files, which then led me to “Premium” IR files such as those sold at “OwnHammer”. I ended up buying the “(r)evolution bundle” and IIRC it was like 25-30 bucks.

    There’s thousands of free IRs out there, sometimes you’ll find really good ones, but if you want premium, have a look at OwnHammer.
    https://www.ownhammer.com/impulseresponses/wav/eol.html

    Check out their note on the top of that web page:

    "In Q2 of 2023 the OwnHammer website will be moving to a new server system in preparation for the launch of software products, at which time the wave audio format impulse response library product catalog will be rebooted. Items listed on this page will not be transferred to it nor made available from it, so now is the last time to pick these up before they ride permanently off into the sunset!"

    Oh, didn’t even notice that. Yeah, technology moves fast. It was maybe a few years ago now, that I bought their bundle.

    One day, like vhs tapes and dvds, we’ll be asking ourselves “shoot, remember when we used to use those IR files for cabinet simulation?”

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @hacked_to_pieces said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    Impulse Response files have been around a little while now. I was introduced to them through a few of the “guitar amp sim” apps we have on iOS like THU and GE Labs, which led me to apps like Thafknar and iConvolver -

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/iconvolver-impulse-response-reverb/id1042911823

    Now they’re everywhere, and there’s tons of apps that support loading IR files (Altispace, Rhino, etc)

    But I really got a crash course in IRs when a buddy of mine gave me this MOOER GE-200 multi-effects pedal, which is basically the hardware version of their iPad app “GE Labs”.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gelabs-effects-guitar-amps/id1506701208

    With this hardware (guitar effects pedal), I’m able to download and use 3rd party IR files, which then led me to “Premium” IR files such as those sold at “OwnHammer”. I ended up buying the “(r)evolution bundle” and IIRC it was like 25-30 bucks.

    There’s thousands of free IRs out there, sometimes you’ll find really good ones, but if you want premium, have a look at OwnHammer.
    https://www.ownhammer.com/impulseresponses/wav/eol.html

    I find the OwnHammer impulse are great for guitar cab simulations but for reverbs I find that IR designed specifically for reverb tend to give better results.

    This is true, and I believe at one point, that was what IR files were originally created for; guitar cabinet simulation. I think all these newer “IR assisted” reverbs came later. I could be wrong, but guitar cabinet sims are where they were introduced to me.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @hacked_to_pieces said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    Impulse Response files have been around a little while now. I was introduced to them through a few of the “guitar amp sim” apps we have on iOS like THU and GE Labs, which led me to apps like Thafknar and iConvolver -

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/iconvolver-impulse-response-reverb/id1042911823

    Now they’re everywhere, and there’s tons of apps that support loading IR files (Altispace, Rhino, etc)

    But I really got a crash course in IRs when a buddy of mine gave me this MOOER GE-200 multi-effects pedal, which is basically the hardware version of their iPad app “GE Labs”.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gelabs-effects-guitar-amps/id1506701208

    With this hardware (guitar effects pedal), I’m able to download and use 3rd party IR files, which then led me to “Premium” IR files such as those sold at “OwnHammer”. I ended up buying the “(r)evolution bundle” and IIRC it was like 25-30 bucks.

    There’s thousands of free IRs out there, sometimes you’ll find really good ones, but if you want premium, have a look at OwnHammer.
    https://www.ownhammer.com/impulseresponses/wav/eol.html

    I find the OwnHammer impulse are great for guitar cab simulations but for reverbs I find that IR designed specifically for reverb tend to give better results.

    This is true, and I believe at one point, that was what IR files were originally created for; guitar cabinet simulation. I think all these newer “IR assisted” reverbs came later. I could be wrong, but guitar cabinet sims are where they were introduced to me.

    IR-based reverbs (also called sampling reverbs) have been around for decades. AltiVerb has been the gold standard for realistic reverb for decades.

    It was long known (going back to at least the 1970s , if not earlier) that convolution could provide more realistic reverberation simulation than analog reverb units or algorithmic digital reverbs. But convolution is computationally extremely intensive and it wasn’t till the 90s that home/desktop computers were fast enough to do it.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Also https://apps.apple.com/pl/app/jax-convolutor-pro-au/id1494157807?l=pl include 32 second irs with possibility to time stretch x4, up to 128 seconds + lot more options.

  • uncledaveuncledave

    @Edward_Alexander . You're describing guitar cabinet IRs, which are relatively short (in duration). I believe the OP is looking for reverb IRs for rooms, halls, cathedrals, canyons, etc.

  • andowritesandowrites

    @uncledave said:
    @Edward_Alexander . You're describing guitar cabinet IRs, which are relatively short (in duration). I believe the OP is looking for reverb IRs for rooms, halls, cathedrals, canyons, etc.

    Correct. IRs suitable for ambient, and ambience. Mostly for synths and processed field recordings.

  • andowritesandowrites

    @szczyp said:
    Also https://apps.apple.com/pl/app/jax-convolutor-pro-au/id1494157807?l=pl include 32 second irs with possibility to time stretch x4, up to 128 seconds + lot more options.

    This looks interesting.

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    @hacked_to_pieces said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    Impulse Response files have been around a little while now. I was introduced to them through a few of the “guitar amp sim” apps we have on iOS like THU and GE Labs, which led me to apps like Thafknar and iConvolver -

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/iconvolver-impulse-response-reverb/id1042911823

    Now they’re everywhere, and there’s tons of apps that support loading IR files (Altispace, Rhino, etc)

    But I really got a crash course in IRs when a buddy of mine gave me this MOOER GE-200 multi-effects pedal, which is basically the hardware version of their iPad app “GE Labs”.

    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gelabs-effects-guitar-amps/id1506701208

    With this hardware (guitar effects pedal), I’m able to download and use 3rd party IR files, which then led me to “Premium” IR files such as those sold at “OwnHammer”. I ended up buying the “(r)evolution bundle” and IIRC it was like 25-30 bucks.

    There’s thousands of free IRs out there, sometimes you’ll find really good ones, but if you want premium, have a look at OwnHammer.
    https://www.ownhammer.com/impulseresponses/wav/eol.html

    I find the OwnHammer impulse are great for guitar cab simulations but for reverbs I find that IR designed specifically for reverb tend to give better results.

    This is true, and I believe at one point, that was what IR files were originally created for; guitar cabinet simulation. I think all these newer “IR assisted” reverbs came later. I could be wrong, but guitar cabinet sims are where they were introduced to me.

    IR-based reverbs (also called sampling reverbs) have been around for decades. AltiVerb has been the gold standard for realistic reverb for decades.

    It was long known (going back to at least the 1970s , if not earlier) that convolution could provide more realistic reverberation simulation than analog reverb units or algorithmic digital reverbs. But convolution is computationally extremely intensive and it wasn’t till the 90s that home/desktop computers were fast enough to do it.

    Yeah, I read that the first real time convolution reverb processor was announced in 1999 by Sony, so it was probably well into the 2000’s when products starting hitting the market.

    I was pretty active in the guitar gear consumer space in the 80s and 90s and this kind of stuff wasn’t around then. Not for your average Joe garage band guitarist. Reverb units were, yes, (but of course young me didn’t care what tech was behind a reverb unit, only that it made killer sound) but amp and cabinet simulation? well, it wasn’t what we have today. Helix, Kemper, Fractal audio axe FX, and even more recently, more affordable units like this MOOER pedal that I have, that use IR files for amp/cab simulation have only been around for the last decade or so. Wait.. has it been 2 decades already?

    @uncledave said:
    @Edward_Alexander . You're describing guitar cabinet IRs, which are relatively short (in duration). I believe the OP is looking for reverb IRs for rooms, halls, cathedrals, canyons, etc.

    Ah right you are. My mind always goes to cabinet simulation whenever IR files come up, as thats where I was introduced to the concept.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    ….

    Yeah, I read that the first real time convolution reverb processor was announced in 1999 by Sony, so it was probably well into the 2000’s when products starting hitting the market.

    >

    Convolution reverb caught on more quickly than you realize.

    The unit you are are talking about is a standalone real-time hardware unit. Convolution reverb software was already available for computers by then but was probably non-real-time because of computer speed and was esoteric geek stuff as most people did not do non-realtime music.

    That changed quickly. Altiverb 1 convolution reverb for PC was released in 2001 and was quickly popular among professionals. I probably first started using it about two years after that. For people doing professional film mixing, it was very quickly adapted because convolution reverb gives such a realistic particular sense of space.

    Note that in film it is used not just for what we think of as reverb. It is used for “room sound” and gives dialog and sound effects a sense of being in a particular room.

    Guitar players that didn’t work in digital studios might not have been aware of it for a long time since pro software was a lot more expensive back then as was the hardware needed to run it.

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @espiegel123 said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:

    ….

    Yeah, I read that the first real time convolution reverb processor was announced in 1999 by Sony, so it was probably well into the 2000’s when products starting hitting the market.

    >

    Convolution reverb caught on more quickly than you realize.

    The unit you are are talking about is a standalone real-time hardware unit. Convolution reverb software was already available for computers by then but was probably non-real-time because of computer speed and was esoteric geek stuff as most people did not do non-realtime music.

    That changed quickly. Altiverb 1 convolution reverb for PC was released in 2001 and was quickly popular among professionals. I probably first started using it about two years after that. For people doing professional film mixing, it was very quickly adapted because convolution reverb gives such a realistic particular sense of space.

    Note that in film it is used not just for what we think of as reverb. It is used for “room sound” and gives dialog and sound effects a sense of being in a particular room.

    Guitar players that didn’t work in digital studios might not have been aware of it for a long time since pro software was a lot more expensive back then as was the hardware needed to run it.

    Makes sense.

    I think we can all agree that the tech has come a long way, I mean, being that we now have $10-$20 apps that handle all of this stuff.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Tested JAX Convolutor PRO, inclded onboard irs are worth the price together with stretch pitch filters control.
    Tested Thafknar in Drambo at 128 buffer and there is problem (freeze) with included 9sec it’s (crash).
    Tested IMPULSation too , some good sounding irs are on board, it they are rather not too long, and no two filters like in JAX Convolutor pro, which is super important, and generally its worth to read manual for JAX Convolutor pro before , to have a clue what’s important. https://midi.digitster.com/JAX/JAX Convolutor Manual.pdf
    By the way there is beta of 3Verb at https://midi.digitster.com/betatest.html
    Highly recommending try (left 38 days), and more fxs , all of them actually.

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