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Now AI is coming for the sound designers… except it is an April Fool

Update: Yup - it’s an April Fool. This week, anyway.

https://www.luftrum.com/

…can only be a matter of time before it isn’t.

(The voice over is AI though, btw…)

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  • This video is definitely an April Fools prank,even if there is actually such a thing as Synth GPT (will Google now!) - funny as hell tho 😂

  • Am looking forward to "hey siri, make my mix less muddy" next week. And I agree, this won't be an April fool in 2 years.

  • It will come to be, as will self programming AI, the only problem is we don’t understand what it’s doing, the machine may learn how we work, before we learn its machinations. :D

  • edited April 2023

    Yup, hit the Play button, and you get rickrolled. But Luftrum appear to be an actual thing, doing Kontakt sound packs, and they do have $5 donate to the World Wildlife Fund for a massive sound pack of license free field recordings which I might go for. While I wait for SynthGPT. :)

    Which, when you think about it, is by no means a crazy idea… can certainly imagine some AI enthusiast starting with examples of simple sine waves, wavetables and what not, then adding in real effects in a controlled way to the training set, until you could indeed direct a DSP purely by descriptive natural language.

  • edited April 2023

    That's no joke at all. We have the technology ready today, someone just has to build it and make sure the learning material is chosen wisely and tagged properly.
    In fact I've just started using the Create ML app with synth presets.
    Create ML is part of MacOS now.

  • @Svetlovska said:
    Yup, hit the Play button, and you get rickrolled. But Luftrum appear to be an actual thing, doing Kontakt sound packs, and they do have $5 donate to the World Wildlife Fund for a massive sound pack of license free field recordings which I might go for. While I wait for SynthGPT. :)

    Which, when you think about it, is by no means a crazy idea… can certainly imagine some AI enthusiast starting with examples of simple sine waves, wavetables and what not, then adding in real effects in a controlled way to the training set, until you could indeed direct a DSP purely by descriptive natural language.

    Yeah that Rick Astley thing was pretty funny haha. Nice heads up about the sound pack, since I now have a 2TB ipad I have been wanting to download some massive sample packs lol

  • edited April 2023

    Anyone else disappointed with what we have got in the sound department so far? AI for text, image, and video has produced remarkable tools for iterative creation, but I haven't seen similar quality tools for audio.

    Part of the reason is fear of copyright issues (but why is this stronger here, compared to the visuals?), but why have we not got the fieldrecording-prompt-to-audio yet? I want to get my audio file from prompts like this: "metallic links cling against the rough surface, a grating noise reverberating through the entire space. In the background, the distant rumble of thunder adding an ominous quality, while the pitter-patter of raindrops provide a constant backdrop of white noise. The sound of the chains grow louder and more intense with each passing second."

  • @bleep : I second your frustration. The spoof synthgpt was suggesting prompts just like this. In other news, I feel compelled to try to make something not a million miles away from your inspiring description now. Interesting challenge :)

  • MusicLM has been stifled thus far because of copyright and the highly derivative nature of pop music.
    Beyond getting sued by the big three labels though I don't think there are any artistic reasons why people wouldn't do it (although I wouldn't want to). Pictorial art has been subverted already, written word too.
    If anything this might just break the stranglehold that labels have put on musical development, time will tell.

    SynthGPT is a bit different though as it is sound design.
    ChatGPT can write code (apparently not 100% accurate but often not bad), so why not apply to fundamental sound design? 90% there with some user tweaking can't be hard for this tech.
    It'll happen by 2025, probably sooner.

    I think 'improve my mix' tech is also possible, or more subtlety, 'make my music sound like this reference track'. That's the one I'm really after as I can clearly hear the difference between a pro track and something I do, but am pretty clueless as to how to narrow the competency gap between them. This doesn't have the copyright issues that MusicLM has, and would be a real benefit to a lot of musicians.

  • I bet if this were real they'd charge a hefty monthly subscription price. 😂

  • @belldu said:
    Am looking forward to "hey siri, make my mix less muddy" next week. And I agree, this won't be an April fool in 2 years.

    I’m looking forward to ask Siri things to do to my productions, too. Two years? ChatGPT 4 is already available and shows signs of AGI (Artificial General Intelligence). AGI is more human like than normal AI. I won’t be surprised if iPadOS 17 has music tools activated by Siri 😂

  • Luftrum (actually it’s just Soren I think) are awesome and make amazing libraries for Kontakt. This was priceless but I agree: won’t be so funny in a year or so.

  • There is a further twist to this joke. You can get a taste of how this SynthGPT works at:
    https://www.luftrum.com/synthgpt/

  • Luftrum make excellent sound packs and software

  • I can see AI being good at mastering though.

  • @supadom said:
    I can see AI being good at mastering though.

    https://www.landr.com/

  • There already is a text to audio Ai model, it’s pretty lo res at moment but sure it won’t be long to results are impressive. Scary but also could be some very cool and unique audio tools using Ai

  • Many apps like Synthscaper and synths like the Wavestate and Modwave have randomizers that might as well be AI!

  • From my dev point of view, even If from 2018 I don’t work anymore, AI is not so about tech than what you feed in the learning process and it is far easy to feed the best with photos or text than selected audio files.

    Fear in AI is what intellectual job can AI replace more efficiently ?

    If you use AI for a specific task more AI learning is efficient. So , for some years , we should have professional music app more on specific task like Mastering than composing and producing great music ready to be release without human process.

    And to add more about , success of in Pop or Rock music is a lot about the singer as performer. I can’t see AI replacing this factor. ? ?

  • I think we're heading way beyond that. Hearing the Ghostwriter AI song, "Heart on my sleeve" makes it so sound design is pretty pointless. Imagine using your voice and it being an actual model of your singing...or being able to take your ambient noodling and turning it into an orchestral in the style of Beethoven.

    I, for one, embrace our robot overlords...it's not like we can tell them to stop. Multiple people and institutions have been researching long before it was publicly released. Think...early internet days.

  • The listener would in effect become the instrument of composition along with the AI, so every song or playlist could be unique, in this scenario the only hope for musicianship would be to create a shared live performance, hopefully from humans. :D :D :D

  • @seonnthaproducer they will stop at some point facing legal problems of copyright using music from Majors in the learning process like Universal that legally react.

    For sure AI lab work for years and even I know that will not stop that. AI on some medical field is tested in some hospitals and do better than a doctor in specific field

    I advocate for AI helping on focus task or collaboration as state @knewspeak .AI must be your assistant not your boss. Why we need producer or musician if AI replace most of them when AI will do better and more efficiently the job for 5 $ ?

  • @BerlinFx said:
    @seonnthaproducer they will stop at some point facing legal problems of copyright using music from Majors in the learning process like Universal that legally react.

    For sure AI lab work for years and even I know that will not stop that. AI on some medical field is tested in some hospitals and do better than a doctor in specific field

    I advocate for AI helping on focus task or collaboration as state @knewspeak .AI must be your assistant not your boss. Why we need producer or musician if AI replace most of them when AI will do better and more efficiently the job for 5 $ ?

    I agree AI could be the greatest tool to benefit humanity, as long as control resides absolutely with humanity and I also hope humanity acquires the social and intellectual understanding that it needs also to carefully forecast the huge implications AI brings.

  • I found this interesting link with a list of pro and cons for each AI music apps or services , it may be interesting too to inventory all iOS music apps on App Store that use some useful AI process ( not the one who use AI just as a marketing word.

    https://aiplusinfo.com/blog/ai-music-generators/

  • @knewspeak said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    @seonnthaproducer they will stop at some point facing legal problems of copyright using music from Majors in the learning process like Universal that legally react.

    For sure AI lab work for years and even I know that will not stop that. AI on some medical field is tested in some hospitals and do better than a doctor in specific field

    I advocate for AI helping on focus task or collaboration as state @knewspeak .AI must be your assistant not your boss. Why we need producer or musician if AI replace most of them when AI will do better and more efficiently the job for 5 $ ?

    I agree AI could be the greatest tool to benefit humanity, as long as control resides absolutely with humanity and I also hope humanity acquires the social and intellectual understanding that it needs also to carefully forecast the huge implications AI brings.

    As far as control goes it doesn't feel like a huge leap away for AI viruses that can hack systems, tweak code (their own and others) on the fly, taking over and hiding in massive servers, initiated only by a user using plain english text prompts.

  • @AudioGus said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    @seonnthaproducer they will stop at some point facing legal problems of copyright using music from Majors in the learning process like Universal that legally react.

    For sure AI lab work for years and even I know that will not stop that. AI on some medical field is tested in some hospitals and do better than a doctor in specific field

    I advocate for AI helping on focus task or collaboration as state @knewspeak .AI must be your assistant not your boss. Why we need producer or musician if AI replace most of them when AI will do better and more efficiently the job for 5 $ ?

    I agree AI could be the greatest tool to benefit humanity, as long as control resides absolutely with humanity and I also hope humanity acquires the social and intellectual understanding that it needs also to carefully forecast the huge implications AI brings.

    As far as control goes it doesn't feel like a huge leap away for AI viruses that can hack systems, tweak code (their own and others) on the fly, taking over and hiding in massive servers, initiated only by a user using plain english text prompts.

    I don’t believe nor I think that you do, that we would all have our own personal ‘attack’ AI Bot, these resource hungry servers will be maintained by either states or quite large corporations, it’s the regulations that govern their use that ordinary people should be interested in.

    The full impact of self-programming AI isn’t completely understood by it’s creators and designers yet, that should alone be a cause for some concern, hopefully without causing hysteria.

  • @knewspeak said:

    @AudioGus said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @BerlinFx said:
    @seonnthaproducer they will stop at some point facing legal problems of copyright using music from Majors in the learning process like Universal that legally react.

    For sure AI lab work for years and even I know that will not stop that. AI on some medical field is tested in some hospitals and do better than a doctor in specific field

    I advocate for AI helping on focus task or collaboration as state @knewspeak .AI must be your assistant not your boss. Why we need producer or musician if AI replace most of them when AI will do better and more efficiently the job for 5 $ ?

    I agree AI could be the greatest tool to benefit humanity, as long as control resides absolutely with humanity and I also hope humanity acquires the social and intellectual understanding that it needs also to carefully forecast the huge implications AI brings.

    As far as control goes it doesn't feel like a huge leap away for AI viruses that can hack systems, tweak code (their own and others) on the fly, taking over and hiding in massive servers, initiated only by a user using plain english text prompts.

    I don’t believe nor I think that you do, that we would all have our own personal ‘attack’ AI Bot, these resource hungry servers will be maintained by either states or quite large corporations, it’s the regulations that govern their use that ordinary people should be interested in.

    The full impact of self-programming AI isn’t completely understood by it’s creators and designers yet, that should alone be a cause for some concern, hopefully without causing hysteria.

    What I have seen run locally on home computers with very little resources has been pretty impressive. These open source ML/AI language models are not resource hungry at all.

  • edited April 2023

    @AudioGus as I said before when its comes to AI you need to separate the language model itself and the learning feed process which is more important and need ressources and cause legal issues too.

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