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lumbeat Rock Drummer - drummer model demos?
Looking at IAP's on this and there are two drummer styled ( Mike and John) but no demos of them playing. Does anyone have a link to a demo please?
None in the app, it just goes right to store.
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I bought some extra drummers in the Lumbeat apps, but it might be me, I cannot hear that much difference in style or sound. I wonder too what the benefit would be of the extra IAP drummers. They are not cheap, and since Lumbeat is IAA only, not such a good investment.
Totally true, and there’s not much difference other than some extra groove patterns. It’s an old app that hasn’t really been updated and the dev refuses to move to AUv3, for some very stubborn and odd reason. They also say they were updating/working on new apps, and nonething in the pipeline. The name of the company changed like so many during covid, making me think, no updates and no auv3 are coming. $20 is already too much for an old useless IAA app but the IAP make it an even worse investment. Really annoyed myself too. Same with DrumPerfect Pro and Auria Pro. So much potential, amazing developers to start, and now WaveMachine Labs was sold and they clearly aren’t working anymore as people continue to buy abandoneware, Drumperfect Pro is absolutely useless and the UI is so bad its like Auria Pro and DPP are a pair. Drum Session was Blue Mangoo, and now it’s Mani Consulting. Lumbeat Ltd was Lumbeat. Clearly developers are selling their companies, software, IP in one package and the “devs” who take over either dont have the programming ability to update or don’t really care to: one of the two, or both. I spent so much on the wrong apps, which is finally how i found these forums as guides and references for help
The Future Drummer IAPs do shine.. The difference in ‘kit’ can matter..
It is really time to step up to Auv3, Multi-Out , etc, etc. Mr. Lumbeat..
They are GEMs..
iBassist too.. nothing like Lumbeat.
Whoa. "Useless app"? "Odd reasons for not doing auv3"? I mean the dev is clearly not the most suave person, I'll give you that 🙂, but he did explain here in the forum that rewriting everything to auv3 would be an investment too far. I can totally accept that.
Also, even with all those shiny new auv3 drum apps around, still noone does human-like fills quite like Lumbeat. Not even close imho.
What you say is “clearly” happening isn’t.
You are jumping to a lot of conclusions based on little data. The name changes of many entities in the App store isn’t because the companies were sold but because of changes in App Store rules about how developers are listed. LUMBEATS is still just Luis Martinez..who explained years ago now that the cost (time and effort) of doing AUv3 versions of the apps was greater than revenue could justify. It is the same reason Nanostudio 2 won’t get anything more than maintenance updates.
Auria Pro (unless something changed very recently) is the same story. The same person has been coding it since the beginning and it doesn’t generate enough revenue for a major rewrite.
You not liking something doesn’t make it useless.
haha, I THINK there was an answer somewhere in the posts above to my OP !!
Well, I think it is smarter to buy an other Lumbeat drummer, like Funk Drummer, Soft Drummer, then buy an IAP drummer in the one you have already. I have to check which ones I have, I think I have bought the extra Rock and Reggae IAP drummers.
............LUMBEATS is still just Luis Martinez..who explained years ago now that the cost (time and effort) of doing AUv3 versions of the apps was greater than revenue could justify. I
On THAT score, I did write to Mr Martinez ages ago suggesting the users could look to create a "crowd funding" project to perhaps help with the "time and effort" - but I got not even an acknowledgement of receiving the message, let alone a response from him!
I've already got Soft,Jazz, Funk and Afro-Cuban as well as the Rock Drummers
Just check App Store review
I am not the coder. I am just passing along known information about these apps.
Your entitled to your opinios about apps and devs
Many developers don’t respond to a most email they receive … particularly when they know that customers will be disappointed by what they have to say.
read the App Store reviews for most critical of the Rock DM and Mid east drummer. All the info is there.
wasn't an email - it was a direct SMS on his Facebook page! Which was read btw. The guy is simply not interested, even at no cost to himself, in fact it may have even ended up as being NET income to him
If these apps were not the best at what they do I'd have dumped them ages ago. But as they are I, (and I am sure many others) have figured tricky and arcane ways to keep them incorporated in live sets.
Email vs sms is not significant to the point. Let me rephrase: many developers Read communications from customers and don’t respond … particularly when they know the customer won’t like the answer.
It is a big jump from “didn’t respond” to “isn’t interested “.
Sorry, but I disagree with your premise about "not liking the answer" as a reason to not respond!
Especially as it is a win-win for the developer - apart from his time of course!
I'll leave it there as it will just go in circles otherwise. You seem to be a little evangelical in your approach here. I am neither criticizing or praising. Simply stating facts as I know them to be
@pax-eterna
Maybe you can check it on Doug's demo
I cannot watch it right now to be sure, but i'll drop it to you here
A demo for Mike
And John
You are misinterpreting my response.
I am not saying that it is good that he doesn’t respond. I am simply saying that you cannot draw conclusions from the lack of a response.
You wrote: “ Especially as it is a win-win for the developer - **apart from his time of course! **”
The time is an important part of the equation.
Again, I am not condoning the lack of response. I am just saying you can’t interpret it as not caring.
There are developers whose apps you probably love who never respond to email.
John (drummer + soundbank)
Mike (drummer +soundbank)
The entitlement is sometimes very strong with us consumers, isn't it.
I would daringly go as far as to suggest that paying a few quid for an app does not mean its dev has to entertain our brilliant outsider ideas about how he should improve or completely rewrite his product - regardless of how smart these ideas may seem to us (who mostly never ever had to implement any of them).
It was really frustrating when we offered Matt of the Nanostudio fame everything we could think of, from subscription through crowdfunding to guaranteed individual donations, to get him to continue development, and he didn't ever seriously respond to us. But with hindsight I think he was right. That's just not how things work. To mention just one aspect, you can't just respond to these queries once. You will inevitably get a follow-up question or another brilliant idea. Most single devs don't have the time for that. They also know better than us already.
Blasphemy. (Unless you're implicitly excluding me, of course.)
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Yeah ok fair - I get that! And apologies for the misunderstanding - must admit I did!
lovely, thanks! Those videos reminded me I must get around to figuring those pads one of these days haha!
How do you like hip hop drummer and the John and mike?