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Aum, iconnect audio4c and macbook
I am experiencing issues trying to configure my iconnect audio4c setup. I want to run my ipad using AUM with samplr and other apps and be able to use ableton sending midi instruments and audio samples to ipad (samplr) manipulate samples and send back to ableton. Also at the same time run other instruments in aum in conjunction with ableton.
So far the only way ive been able to do this is to switch between routing methods in the iconnect software (auracle)
For example to be able to record ableton into the ipad i need to set the routing mode in auracle to stream mode.
Then if i want to resample the sounds from samplr back into ableton i need to switch it back to record mode.
Does anyone know how this can be achieved within the one routing mode?
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the legacy software (iconfig) for audio 4c has way more options for routing although for some people it can be very confusing to set up.
The routing part is rather straight once you understand how the matrix works and you distinguish between in/out connections and those virtual (software) channels to connect the systems.
But the basic setup of buffers and multiple mixers is close to mystery, let alone the midi part.
There has been discussion about this (iConfig) with valuable hints on this board, though.
A free app called reConfig4Audio replaces iConfig.
It‘s open source, iConnectivity were generous and published specs, so someone else could take over. Maybe the new docs are more clear about the interface‘s background.
I used Auracle and it wiped my settings.
Couldnt sort the audio info ( but can the audio matrix ) in iconnfig.
Anyway.
Iconnfig midi setup seemed different to reconfig.
So I used iconfig to set factory midi routing.
Then reconfig to sort the audio routing.
I can just probably use reconfig now.
I can link pics.
Which will be so midi is factory. So its just a case of host routing.
and then 4 stereo recieve channels.
Obviously you could just switch the usb cables lol.
Dunno if this will help but first time I used one, the audio ports inside the ipad were labelled or accessed incorrectly.. reversed.
So you may have made the right matrix connections but.. connecting one and two do nothing and you needed to connect 7 and 8 (or whatever).
not sure from this thread if you’re familiar with this one: https://apps.apple.com/nl/app/reconfig4audio/id1611970692
serves all my Iconnectivity routing needs from the iPad, has some small refresh screen quirk which is always solved by pressing on the screen title, you need to get to know which port is which especially with MIDI ports (the AUM MIDI matrix is helpful in seeing which ports are active, the numbering is not intuitive)
edit: read over @Telefunky ’s post already mentioning it
I didn’t know about this one but at the moment I just cannot connect my iConnectAudio2+ to my iPad using the USB port. It seems that it is not working anymore since ios15. Can anyone confirm and is there a was to bypass this ?
another tip is to rename your external midi ports with the midi devices you use in the ipconfig software, so they show up in AUM, drambo etc...
so for example if you have a microfreak you can name a midi port in iconfig to say microfreak.
Maybe Apple fixed this, but last time I checked, iOS only grabs the names of MIDI ports the first time you connect a device. After that, it won’t check again, so renaming does nothing. On the Mac you can force a reset.
works perfectly for me using AUM or Drambo. ios16
edit: you are right actually ios seems to take the first time you enter in the names. weird ios , never fails to be unreliable.
Does anyone use the iC4+ or Audio4c with both a Windows laptop and an iPad, at the same time? How's that experience? Concerned about latency, etc. Thanks.
you will need to be more specific in what you wanna do.
If i wanna record audio into a DAW from ipad i use AUM and Ableton so I got choices like Ableton link/midiclock offset or ableton ext instrument to trim the latency to record in realtime while monitoring spot on.
when recording i run at 1.83ms input, 2,83ms output and 4.67ms overall latency according to Ableton funny calculation....
That's pretty amazing latency. Which iPad do you use?
Bascially I want to be able to feed audio freely between my iPad, laptop, and external inputs/outputs. (Use the iPad and AUM like an effects rack on the audio from the laptop.)
mmm so i should say that my PC latency running Ableton.
the ipad latency is higher due to the ipad processing limit so i have to run at higher buffer. i have an old ipad from like 2018 so the ipad processing power is a major factor to latency and pops/crackles.
i only record ipad into Ableton like as an instrument so I never have audio round trips for effects as I prefer Ableton effects.
Thanks Danny_Mammy. How often does it have audio dropouts and/or driver issues (PC cannot see interface, etc.)
It rock solid for me, audio never drops out for me.
The weak links will be the processing power of you iPad or PC, they will cause pops/crackle if your buffer too low. I have an 8 core 4.2 ghz AMD PC with 32gig RAM and a ok GPU. GPU actually makes a difference when using audio apps to my great Suprise. My previous PC laptop couldn't run very low latency, i found out it was the crappy integrated GPU which was the bottleneck of all things.
Plus a lot of Windows laptops nowadays prioritize energy-consumption over performance. There are far fewer power plan options. That's why I use gaming laptops, since they prioritize performance.
Thanks for your help. I may buy one during the Easter sales.
Does anyone have experience what kind of iPad-reset (if any...) is necessary to reset/re-initiate the MIDI port names of a device?
Thanks.
I believe iOS scans the external MIDI ports when USB is first connected. So, force-quit the apps using MIDI, then disconnect the USB adapter, wait a moment, and reconnect it. You can just load AUM and check the MIDI routing matrix to confirm everything is there.
i don't believe this makes any difference to the port naming of the iconnect device? the ios doesn't detect updated midi port name from iconnectivity devices. its a rare one indeed.
its more an issue with iconnectivity i believe, it was solved with drivers for mac and PC i assume, that option is not there for ios.
if you reformatted your ios device or maybe the next ios version installed could resolve the issue.
I'm not sure how you can wipe the memory from the ios device which remembers the name from the iconnectivity device?
maybe AUM dev could solve it via updated AUM code.
The iPad reads the names of the MIDI ports once, so you have to get it all set up with a Mac or PC before you connect it to the iPad for the first time. You'll be stuck with those port names forever.
i remember once the names were updated but I'm not sure what triggered it, I'm assuming it was either iOS version update which wiped the iOS memory or AUM update that somehow wiped the memory.
either way it did update once in the last 5 years for me hihih.
Thank you all for your comments, quite unfortunate but good to know, that I can stop trying to find a solution
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I use Audio2+ with ipad and Surface pro with great results.
I did however reflash the firmware and set it all to its default config.
It works well now.
Auricle is not as good as the legacy app mentioned here and i would learn it as its far more reliable at getting what you want to work.
AUM and Cubassis both work with expected results
Dont give up as its a great unit and very low latency etc etc
Edit - just to add i needed to NOT use the iconnect with a generic usb hub, it does not like it. Use it in its own dedicated usb port. My surface pro has the surface hub and this however is fine as long as its directly connected to its own usb port and not shared with other devices.
Make sure that you also have a 9v power plugged into the iconnect too to add juice to the ipad connected to the usb at the back.
You can tell windows to stop conserving usb power and set it not to manage usb port power - this works on any PC and not just gaming setups.