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Interesting article about the legal dilemma posed by music AI
As someone who may or may not have, ahem, ‘trained’ a voice AI impersonation of a certain well known dead horror movie actor recently for a piece I did, the fuss over AI Drake caught my attention. Especially this entertaining wrinkle on it:
Tl:dr: as the ‘Drake’ song is one he never wrote, the current takedown hangs from one tenuous legal thread, relating to a single sample which could easily be replaced. If the track were to be re-uploaded with the offending sample replaced, an easy fix, Google has then to decide: let the take down they initially agreed to stand, creating a precedent which threatens their own and every other company’s wholesale ‘fair use’ / ‘training’ of internet scraping for in house AI projects; or they don’t, and risk the cozy relationship they currently have with major corporate copyright holders for material on YouTube, which could spell the end of the platform.
Devil? Meet Deep Blue Sea.
(Sidenote: I tried to get chat GPT to do this summary for me, but it was too busy. Ah well. Have to rely on a human a while longer…)
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Utter bedlam and chaos is on its way and I can't see how it can be avoided. It's just a matter of time.
Dear ChatGPT: Can you write the closing argument in a Musical Intellectual Property Rights case defending the computer’s side of the case?
ChatGPT: Is the family of Marvin Gaye involved? Because they always win and no amount of rhetoric will help you in that case.
The algorithm just drew my attention to the video I've linked below.
I'm not an expert on Drake or the rap genre, but understand why its an easy target.
Lots of source material of spoken word and cadence, often employs auto-tune etc... so not hard to re create with training. I don't think that gives much comfort to other genres, AI will come for them soon enough.
https://youtu.be/1Q5iNBABiLw
Who TF is Drake?
I’m so jealous of you.
@Edward_Alexander : I feel you. I have never knowingly actually heard the output of this young man, apparently some form of popular troubadour, let alone AI clones of him.
I do however, follow stories involving AI, and so it pinged on my pop culture radar, much as Eminem as a 2nd Century warlord did a while ago. Which I did listen to, a lot. I still think it’s hilarious:
An interesting different approach…
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/apr/26/grimes-invites-people-to-use-her-voice-in-ai-songs
Yes she ask to have 35 % of the income for doing that. She have learn a lot being one of the girl friends of Elon Musk lol. It is not a critic as in some way doing that she ask a fair share of the income for artists.
@Robin2 : wow, thanks for that, I somehow missed the piece despite being a regular Guardianista. Radar malfunctioned that day, obvs!
Her approach seems a mature and interesting one, though how she would legally enforce the 50/50 royalty split is presumably as difficult legal territory as the takedown issue in the first place.
Also it is perhaps not coincidental that she is Elon’s girlfriend, and he is a man who seems to spend his time warning about AI whilst simultaneously developing it. (When he’s not blowing up rockets, Twitter, Tesla, and Crypto). It surely means if she wanted to release some kind of Grimes-in-an-app she is better placed than most to make it so.
I’m just here waiting for when the AI is good enough I can resurrect Chris Cornell and make brand new Soundgarden songs for my own enjoyment.
He’s famous for sitting in the first row at Raptors games. Apparently he knows a few of the players. No one has ever heard his last name though.
Any day now…
Hmm, I take it that’s a Hockey team? (I don’t watch Hockey obviously 😏)
Oh, right… the Jurassic Park Raptors. Great team.
Rap use a lot Auto Tune. Drake is more famous as a DJ in Europe than for its skill as a singer. Rap is certainly the easiest thing to create with AI for sure.
Have you heard the recent Michael Jackson fake song? It sounds just like him. There's no going back now.
No I haven’t heard it. No going back that sure
Yes, I must admit I was rather disappointed, after reading the headline, to discover that she would expect a 50/50 cut. I mean on the one hand it seems fair enough but then you remember that such songs would have been created with zero input from her. It would be the same as a synth developer expecting a 50/50 cut if you used their synth on your track…wouldn’t it?
I thought she was proposing something really interesting but after reading it fully I’m far less impressed unfortunately. As you say though, she is well placed to actually make her voice available to be used by any and everyone so it’ll be interesting to see what, if anything, she does next.
Thanks for the info
‘It’s terrifying’: songwriter behind Robbie Williams hits out at AI in the music industry:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/mar/09/its-terrifying-songwriter-behind-robbie-williams-hits-out-at-ai-in-the-music-industry
Won't be a matter of these systems possibly replacing writers, artists and musicians someday... it's already happening. And there's no law or regulation that can be passed to stop it. Demand is driving these non-stop advancements. Smart people will adapt and change. The nature of work is going to change whether people like that or not.