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Dub Delay by Asrodot Released

https://apps.apple.com/cn/app/dub-delay-by-asrodot/id1485461590?l=en

Anyone tried this?

Description:

Dub Delay by Asrodot is an AUv3 compatible audio effect for iPad, to be used in your favorite DAW ( AUM, Cubasis, Garageband etc), or standalone.
It emulates an analog tape delay unit with various options to filter and saturate the output signal before it is fed back into the delay unit.
Features:

  • Analog style tape delay with tempo sync option. Delay time can be fine-tuned, even when using tempo sync.
  • Two filters with adjustable cutoff frequency and resonance. Filters can be set low-pass, high-pass, band-pass or band-reject.
  • Tube-like distortion unit.
  • LFO allows modulation of filter cutoff frequencies and /or saturation amount. 7 different waveforms selectable.
  • Parameters are freely assignable to 3 xyz controller pads.
  • Supports AUv3, Audiobus, Inter-App audio and MIDI. Supports cross-DAW user patches.

iPad
Requires iPadOS 16.1 or later.
Mac
Requires macOS 13.0 or later and a Mac with Apple M1 chip or later.

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Comments

  • Looks interesting and well made.

  • It was posted by another user this morning and got zero comments. Guess timing it with Hilda release was real bad. It does look well made, as said by Slush.

  • looks sweeet. downloading!

  • @Pxlhg said:
    It was posted by another user this morning and got zero comments. Guess timing it with Hilda release was real bad. It does look well made, as said by Slush.

    Ah, didn't realise this was a double post. Yeah, pretty rough to launch between pianoteq and Hilda.

  • edited May 2023

    I posted about it earlier and did end up trying it. It’s noisy and kinda unpredictable but not necessarily in a bad way. For $4 I think it’s worth it. The dual filters with automation make it fun to tweak. Just be very careful with levels because the saturation and resonance go HARD. It’ll make your ears bleed if you don’t watch it.

  • edited May 2023

    Interessante
    also the drummnin app is good
    4me

  • It is very good, on a par with Bleass delay, proper dub echoes

  • "PLEASE STOP"!

    • My wallet
  • Yeah this really does look nicely deigned. The drums app looks actually even more interesting, despite being only iaa

  • Requires iOS 16.1 ….

  • @HotStrange said:
    I posted about it earlier and did end up trying it. It’s noisy and kinda unpredictable but not necessarily in a bad way. For $4 I think it’s worth it. The dual filters with automation make it fun to tweak. Just be very careful with levels because the saturation and resonance go HARD. It’ll make your ears bleed if you don’t watch it.

    Good point don’t bless your ears can apply to all apps so it is better to set the volume at 1/4 to 1/3 of the volume bars on iPhone , IPad. Particularly if using headphones. Low volume should also train your ear ( it seems to work ).

  • It's really wise to always use a limiter, unfortunately. I also hate when preset designers make their presets way to loud. So many instruments are just super hot right out of the box.

  • I believe 70db or lower is a safe sound level for our ears. You don’t want to end up with tinnitus.

  • @Gavinski said:
    It's really wise to always use a limiter, unfortunately. I also hate when preset designers make their presets way to loud. So many instruments are just super hot right out of the box.

    Yeah it’s kind of a pet peeve of mine also. I usually start out with limiter, when I’m testing something new especially. Curious to hear your thoughts if you try it!

  • Here is my demo for Dub Delay, it has some nice tricks up it's sleeve, not a bad price either.

  • @Gavinski said:
    It's really wise to always use a limiter, unfortunately. I also hate when preset designers make their presets way to loud. So many instruments are just super hot right out of the box.

    Looking at you @MoogMusicInc Model D 😳

  • @Gavinski said:
    It's really wise to always use a limiter, unfortunately. I also hate when preset designers make their presets way to loud. So many instruments are just super hot right out of the box.

    This drives me bonkers as well...
    ...the 'loudness wars' was supposed to be over?

    Now it's more or less 'clipper abuse' to keep making things louder...

  • Nice demo by @thesoundtestroom
    If you need a delay this might be an interesting choice. For now, I have a small spot reserved in my fx collection for AudioThing Outer Space, and then I probably have enough delays to play with for the next 500 years.

  • preset window not visible in NS2 :(

  • @Slush said:
    Nice demo by @thesoundtestroom
    If you need a delay this might be an interesting choice. For now, I have a small spot reserved in my fx collection for AudioThing Outer Space, and then I probably have enough delays to play with for the next 500 years.

    Delays are my favorite effects so I’m probably biased but I do think this one is trying to offer something a little different. Not too much overlap with what I have now.

  • I like it! Does anyone else get crashes when trying to open the internal aum presets? I get crashes every single tomw6i do that, but the app's own internal preset menu doesn't cause any problems. At the price this is well worth grabbing, on first impression.

  • edited May 2023

    @Gavinski said:
    I like it! Does anyone else get crashes when trying to open the internal aum presets? I get crashes every single tomw6i do that, but the app's own internal preset menu doesn't cause any problems. At the price this is well worth grabbing, on first impression.

    Doesn’t happen for me every time, but I’m definitely getting some crashes doing the same thing. Agree about it being worth the price though. I’m a sucker for a delay and this is a pretty good one. His Drum app is also great and another one I’d really love to see go AU.

  • Tap tempo for F sake, why not to include in every delay. So obvious.

  • @Gavinski said:
    I like it! Does anyone else get crashes when trying to open the internal aum presets? I get crashes every single tomw6i do that, but the app's own internal preset menu doesn't cause any problems. At the price this is well worth grabbing, on first impression.

    Not getting crashes (yet).

    Really liking the sizzle that this gives. It can make simple keys sound a bit string like. This has a unique sound for iOS delays.

  • edited May 2023

    Arno here, the developer of this app. I will try to answer some of the questions posted here.

    First of all, I would also like to invite all to visit the website at http://www.asrodot.com/dubdelay/index.html that gives some more details about the apps functionalities, and has audio samples.

    @Gavinaki was first to point me out about a crash problem when selecting presets from within AUM. I did have experienced this problem during development, fixed it, and I cannot reproduce it now. But I have a good feeling where to look. As a workaround I would expect that selecting the patches from the patch browser menu within the app would still work.

    About the iOS 16.1 requirement. Unfortunately this now seems mandatory by apple for all news apps as per April 25. Originally the app was build for iOS 13.2 and up, and it got rejected because of it.

    Tap tempo : When used with Audiobus or IAA the menu offers a tempo setting with tap-tempo. This is not available in the AUv3 version. My reasoning behind that is that users uses the tempo of their own DAW, with its own tap-tempo implementation. Is that a wrong assumption of mine?

    If you don’t want your delays to be perfectly in sync with the DAW tempo I totally understand. Personally I am not a fan of perfectly synched delays. But, you can set the app to use Tempo Sync, and use the Fine setting for the time to take it out of sync, relative to the master tempo.

    As for the volume output. I’ll make a note of this. Setting the correct settings for the presets was difficult for me. The output depends on the input. At the moment all patches push 100% of the input into the effect. Maybe that was not a good choice. Noisy the app surely can get. It needs feedback settings of more than 100% in order to be able to re-boost heavily filtered sounds back into the foreground. But feeding a heavily resonated sound with saturation back with 100% feedback will lead to chaos.

    A further tip for people experimenting with the app. The app is also designed with the idea of live tweaking delays. Like the kind of delay you would frequently hear in dub reggae ; delays that come and go, sometimes muting the main track, you manually determining if the next repeat should be louder or softer. Using the effect as an instrument so to speak. The app has some patches dedicated to this use, where you would mainly use the xyz-pads to trigger and tweak delays.

  • Thanks for the details behind your thinking with this app, Arno. But do you think you could build in a limiter to prevent the kind of out of control problems which can easily occur with this kind of effect? Thanks.

  • @ArnoVanGoch said:
    Arno here, the developer of this app. I will try to answer some of the questions posted here.

    First of all, I would also like to invite all to visit the website at http://www.asrodot.com/dubdelay/index.html that gives some more details about the apps functionalities, and has audio samples.

    @Gavinaki was first to point me out about a crash problem when selecting presets from within AUM. I did have experienced this problem during development, fixed it, and I cannot reproduce it now. But I have a good feeling where to look. As a workaround I would expect that selecting the patches from the patch browser menu within the app would still work.

    About the iOS 16.1 requirement. Unfortunately this now seems mandatory by apple for all news apps as per April 25. Originally the app was build for iOS 13.2 and up, and it got rejected because of it.

    Tap tempo : When used with Audiobus or IAA the menu offers a tempo setting with tap-tempo. This is not available in the AUv3 version. My reasoning behind that is that users uses the tempo of their own DAW, with its own tap-tempo implementation. Is that a wrong assumption of mine?

    If you don’t want your delays to be perfectly in sync with the DAW tempo I totally understand. Personally I am not a fan of perfectly synched delays. But, you can set the app to use Tempo Sync, and use the Fine setting for the time to take it out of sync, relative to the master tempo.

    As for the volume output. I’ll make a note of this. Setting the correct settings for the presets was difficult for me. The output depends on the input. At the moment all patches push 100% of the input into the effect. Maybe that was not a good choice. Noisy the app surely can get. It needs feedback settings of more than 100% in order to be able to re-boost heavily filtered sounds back into the foreground. But feeding a heavily resonated sound with saturation back with 100% feedback will lead to chaos.

    A further tip for people experimenting with the app. The app is also designed with the idea of live tweaking delays. Like the kind of delay you would frequently hear in dub reggae ; delays that come and go, sometimes muting the main track, you manually determining if the next repeat should be louder or softer. Using the effect as an instrument so to speak. The app has some patches dedicated to this use, where you would mainly use the xyz-pads to trigger and tweak delays.

    Thanks for popping by! Really liking the app so far. It may not be possible with the code but is there a chance at getting Drums as an AU?

  • Thanks for being responsive man. I used to play with mixer and delay pedals which have tap tempo. So you can get rhytm instantly from your head without everyone hearing the tweaking sound. Dub mixing. really lacking that on ios, only 2 delay apps have it so far.

  • @rvr said:
    Thanks for being responsive man. I used to play with mixer and delay pedals which have tap tempo. So you can get rhytm instantly from your head without everyone hearing the tweaking sound. Dub mixing. really lacking that on ios, only 2 delay apps have it so far.

    Yes, another thing that us useful for all delays is the ability to jump immediately from one value to another without dragging through intermediate values. AU Dub by Kymatica does this - I actually requested it and the dev kindly implemented it. If means for example that you can jump seamlessly from a 1 bar delay to a half bar to a 16th note delay. The implementation is very simple - touch, drag and release. The new value is only selected when you release. There could be a button on the UI to toggle this behaviour on or off

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