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Adding MPE to already recorded non-MPE chords

tyslothrop1tyslothrop1
edited March 21 in General App Discussion

I'd like to be able to inject mpe-data into pre-recorded, generated or live played chords.

I just got MMM and seeing that it can send any cc on any midichannel (I have only gotten it to work for cc1 on channel 1 so far, but it can do that, right?), I wonder if I could use it for that purpose, sending different signals to different channels on cc74 for example. Would be cool to use the knobs manually or send any of the modulators there.

To get the chords, as well as the CCS to whatever instrument, I would use a midi mixer module in Drambo.

Does anyone have an idea, if that would work, or what I should take care of?

Thanks in advance.

Comments

  • tyslothrop1tyslothrop1

    Yes, after some erring and buying apps, that didn't quite cut it, finally I found a solution that works quite well:). I used loopy pro and did this:

    1. Have some chords playing no matter from where, for now I've used scaler 2
    2. Send that to Polythemus to split the single notes of the chords from channel 2 up (keep lowest seems to work best)
    3. Add as many sliders in loopy as the chords contain single notes.
    4. Have the sliders send out cc74 from channel 2 up and route them to the init preset of streambyter (so you can easily exchange a synth without having to adapt all the sliders)
    5. Send to your MPE-synth of choice and wiggle away.

    And if you don't feel like pushing those sliders up and down, add an instance of MMMm, route it to streambyter and put some nice modulation on CC74 on channel 2 and up.

    Would still be a little nicer, if I could use xy pads to have polyaftertouch on the other axis. If anybody has an idea, how to make this work, let me know:)

  • wimwim

    I don't know if this would be of any use but ...

    https://patchstorage.com/expression-redirector/

  • tyslothrop1tyslothrop1

    @wim said:
    I don't know if this would be of any use but ...

    https://patchstorage.com/expression-redirector/

    I think this works exactly the other way and converts MPE to traditional CCs, or am I getting something wrong? Probably cool for other purposes. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    If you want a bit more control, Xequence has detailed per-note MPE editing capabilities, including creation of new MPE CC data. (sorry for the shameless plug).

    You could import your recorded non-MPE MIDI from a MIDI file or record directly in Xequence, and then add and edit any kind of MPE controllers per-note to your heart's content.

  • wimwim

    Shameless plug aside, that is an excellent suggestion.

  • tyslothrop1tyslothrop1

    @SevenSystems said:
    If you want a bit more control, Xequence has detailed per-note MPE editing capabilities, including creation of new MPE CC data. (sorry for the shameless plug).

    You could import your recorded non-MPE MIDI from a MIDI file or record directly in Xequence, and then add and edit any kind of MPE controllers per-note to your heart's content.

    Yes, that's cool, too and I could do that in Ableton on the pc, but with the iPad I like a more hands-on, performance-like approach and not so much editing.

    Of course it would be nice to have a one-app solution for this and if you ever feel like making one (for the maybe tiny group of people, who might want that) I'll surely buy that :)

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    @tyslothrop1 said:

    @SevenSystems said:
    If you want a bit more control, Xequence has detailed per-note MPE editing capabilities, including creation of new MPE CC data. (sorry for the shameless plug).

    You could import your recorded non-MPE MIDI from a MIDI file or record directly in Xequence, and then add and edit any kind of MPE controllers per-note to your heart's content.

    Yes, that's cool, too and I could do that in Ableton on the pc, but with the iPad I like a more hands-on, performance-like approach and not so much editing.

    Of course it would be nice to have a one-app solution for this and if you ever feel like making one (for the maybe tiny group of people, who might want that) I'll surely buy that :)

    Yeah, I agree that having MPE capabilities for Xequence's internal keyboard would be great -- it's been on the roadmap forever, but so have the dwindling sales figures 😂 thanks for your feedback anyway, and good luck with the MPE shenenigans.

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