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Swelling reverb efx for guitar?
hello Forum,
I am mainly a blues guitar player, I don't use much efx, I prefer a dry clean tone.
But, I have bought Velvet Machine, and I tried it yesterday with guitar, and the swelling effect is amazing. Specially the patches that start slow, I hit the (high) strings and there is almost no sound, and then like a wave the lush sound falls over me. This kind of effect makes me play in a totally different style.
So I am wondering, what other apps have this swelling reverb effect? Is there a shortlist?
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Cascade by the same developer is very good.
Alteza is a must for me
Great, thanks for the tip, I have bought Cascade now too. And I have Alteza already (but not used yet for this application). This afternoon I have some spare time to check it out.
I do have a lot of Eventide, I guess Blackhole/MangleVerb/ShimmerVerb can do swells too. That is my problem, I snag apps when there is discount but I don't have time (or focus) to actually use it.
Pretty sure you have all the best ones! Unless you want something a bit weirder and dirtier, in which case Rymdigare is really good, but it's more... lofi...
Yes, so many great apps, so little time..... And with normal reverb I miss my direct tone, so I don't use it that much. But this swell effect is great. I have an association with the Interpol and Editors guitar sound.
Delay/Ambient Machine by Nembrini is great for this. Bleass’s reverb as well.
I noticed you mentioned with normal reverb you lose your dry tone. Have you tried a wet dry setup. I also hated how reverb masked my pick attack. The wet dry seams to solve it
Check out these videos in which I create really ethereal sounds using a guitar with a few iOS apps:
You have a good point here. Normal reverb with a pedal (I have an Engl pedal), in the beginning it sounds "rich" but after I while I miss the directness. On my Ipad I have much more routing options, I am gonna try that too. Normal vanilla reverb has to enhance the sound just a little bit, make it a bit more juicy.
@HotStrange, thanks! Bleass Reverb is in my collection, Nembrini has to wait, first I want to buy Loopy Pro.
@richardyot , thanks! more homework to do
Velvet Machine running into Cascade is a beautiful thing ❤️
All you need is any convolution reverb and a swelling impulse response. It could be as simple as a synth with only noise going through an ADSR envelope, adjusted to taste and recorded then used as an IR.
Of course you can also buy three different apps for the same purpose and find out later 😉
Not exactly what you're looking for, but worth mentioning, for applying an attack envelope to the guitar itself: Attack Softener, and yaleD.
You could send the guitar to a dry bus and a reverb bus, and then use Attack Softener to apply an attack envelope to any reverb.
Two of the techniques I demonstrate in the videos above BTW 👆
I nearly started a thread the other day just about reverb - what I was after was a big sounding reverb but with really precise control over the envelope, particularly the tail as it needed to time with the percussion. I spent ages trying with every verb I have but couldn't get what I wanted, then I remembered Velvet Machine and it took me roughly 5 seconds to get exactly the effect I needed. I don't tend to think of it as a reverb, but when it wants to be it very much is.
Crystalline can be tempo-synced, so that could work as well.
At first I thought you were mistakenly referring to Crystals — by Eventide. Now I’m out another $4.99 for Crystalline. Geez. Thanks, Richard. 🙄😄
Oh sorry I should have been clearer, I meant Crystalline by Baby Audio:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/crystalline-baby-audio/id1609936795
I think (judging by the price) you must have bought the very old Crystalline shimmer reverb from Holderness Media, it's IAA and not AUv3 so probably obsolete unfortunately.
Oh, you’re right!
The Baby Audio app looks rather sophisticated.
Thanks!
Oooh, not got that one. Thanks @richardyot
Crystalline is absolutely fantastic.
Any guitar player that has practiced with a Volume Pedal or mastered that pinky control of the guitars volume knob knows that using an FX app is just simulating the “way”.
This sounds like a plea for a Mozaic script. @wim or @_ki could make us a killer “Swell Fella”. I can make a lukewarm and buggy “swollen appendage” script. I’d call it the “Chubbie”.
It’s time for me to connect that Expression Pedal to my MIDI Blueboard and get to work. I’ve been meaning to see what the “continuous sustain pedal (CC64=0-127) is like with PianoTeq.
PS - I will also be able to MIDI Learn my Pedal to an AUM volume slider and swell without any code at all. What’s really fun is to map one slide positive and another out of phase so that one sound goes up in volume while another goes down. I created an Orba script that maps the tilt to this AUM functionality. That set up will work for a expression pedal too.
Rymdigare is the king of this kind of huge effect. Another good one is Eos. I have used FAC Envolver to turn on Eos’s infinite reverb sustain at the end of each phrase.
One could use FAC Envolver driven by the dry guitar signal, then direct the midi CC output to duck the reverb on a send channel. Or, use side chain compression on the reverb amount, with the guitar dry as the sidechain input.
With that approach any reverb can be made to act in this way.
Would that really produce a swell? FAC Envolver is really fast in its CC responses. I think the CC needs to have an unnatural ramp to generate a swell. You pick and the swell comes on without any clue of a pick event.
FAC Envolver driving a fader should do it.
Velvet is one of my fave app with guitar. Cascade by the same developper is really good at a small price.
Put “Guitar MIDI 2” into Continua with @Spidericemidas Presets for PADS into Velvet Machine in AUM and you can save the cost of the volume pedal. Trust me… magical and Guitar MIDI 2 can also take a SWAM violin solo on the same gig. The audience will look around for the tape machine taking the solo.
Yes, it can. It's an envelope generator. You can set the "swell" time to anything you want.
Nice… that goes on my “To Do List” then.
I went deep on FAC Envolver by mapping impulses to drum samples and using a basic drum pad to play snare drum parts.
I used a StreamByter script to trigger events to short MIDI “notes” suitable for snare drum parts. It basically created a “one drum” drum trigger. I begged Fred to add some pitch detection so tapping between several pots could be mapped to a drum kit for the cost of the pots. Fred went on to make dozens of successful FX apps and his App Selector and port his best products to the Mac. No dummy that Fred. Meanwhile, the StreamByter app price dropped to free.
Use anything after Attack Softener by Mani Consulting Limited Company for that swell effect.
The Malmsteen effect.