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GSDSP MagicFusion by GSDSP (Released)

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  • Kewe_EsseKewe_Esse

    @ecou said:

    @robosardine said:

    @ecou said:
    I wish the youtuber who made videos actually used a voice. You don't have to sing just get a sample. I need to hear more before I buy it.

    @Gavinski , @thesoundtestroom

    That would be good - you mean spoken word samples?

    signing

    It’s gonna be tough making an audio demo of signed voice samples.

  • robosardinerobosardine

    @ecou said:

    @robosardine said:

    @ecou said:
    I wish the youtuber who made videos actually used a voice. You don't have to sing just get a sample. I need to hear more before I buy it.

    @Gavinski , @thesoundtestroom

    That would be good - you mean spoken word samples?

    signing

    You mean like signing a song?

  • gsdspgsdsp

    @ervin said:

    Thank you, this sounds much better, this demo actually made me want to try it. I downloaded it on the Mac, but it fails validation in Logic Pro. (Your other plugins don't have this problem, they all validate successfully.) I tried twice, same result. M1 Mac mini, Ventura 13.3.1, Logic Pro 10.7.8

    We will investigate this! Thanks for reporting and sorry for the inconvenience..

  • ecouecou

    @Gavinski said:

    @ecou said:
    I wish the youtuber who made videos actually used a voice. You don't have to sing just get a sample. I need to hear more before I buy it.

    @Gavinski , @thesoundtestroom

    Well, I did use a voice, albeit a sampled one. But it was a voice.

    I guess my real question is can this thing do the classic vocoder like Daft punk - Harder better faster stronger or Alan Parson -The Raven ?

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @ecou said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @ecou said:
    I wish the youtuber who made videos actually used a voice. You don't have to sing just get a sample. I need to hear more before I buy it.

    @Gavinski , @thesoundtestroom

    Well, I did use a voice, albeit a sampled one. But it was a voice.

    I guess my real question is can this thing do the classic vocoder like Daft punk - Harder better faster stronger or Alan Parson -The Raven ?

    Of course. It is a vocoder! The only unique thing is the extremely high level of control over exactly which frequencies the effect is applied to at any given time and the deep modulation possibilities.

  • gsdspgsdsp

    What @Gavinski said ;) For the classic vocoder sound you should probably use some Synth / Keyboard as Input and Vocals for Sidechain.
    Also, on a more DSP geek level, MagicFusion is not squaring the amplitude like classic vocoders do. For example, if you use the same signal for the Input and Sidechain and set Smooth to 0, Formant to mid and Detail to max, you will get the very same signal on the output. Classic vocoders can't do this, because they multiply the tracked amplitudes with each other, resulting in a squared amplitude if you feed the very same signal into both inputs. So in a way MagicFusion is also more accurate.

  • ecouecou

    @gsdsp said:
    What @Gavinski said ;) For the classic vocoder sound you should probably use some Synth / Keyboard as Input and Vocals for Sidechain.
    Also, on a more DSP geek level, MagicFusion is not squaring the amplitude like classic vocoders do. For example, if you use the same signal for the Input and Sidechain and set Smooth to 0, Formant to mid and Detail to max, you will get the very same signal on the output. Classic vocoders can't do this, because they multiply the tracked amplitudes with each other, resulting in a squared amplitude if you feed the very same signal into both inputs. So in a way MagicFusion is also more accurate.

    Thank you for the explanation. Can we hear a exemple ?

  • gsdspgsdsp

    Sure, although it's not that exciting because you end up with the same signal again, here is the proof:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/fpYZhjLeSWw

  • ecouecou

    @gsdsp said:
    Sure, although it's not that exciting because you end up with the same signal again, here is the proof:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/fpYZhjLeSWw

    I am still waiting for a exemple of a classic vocoder à la Daft punk - Harder better faster stronger or Alan Parson -The Raven.

  • pedropedro

    I think daft punk example is not even a vocoder. It’s a sampled speak’n’spell

  • pedropedro

    Anyway is this like a phase vocoder? Could use one in iOS land

  • gsdspgsdsp

    Hmm.. actually all the other Magic plugins are phase vocoders. MagicFusion is technically more of an adaptive FIR filter. You shouldn't confuse a phase vocoder with a vocoder effect - what is it you want to use a phase vocoder for?

  • gsdspgsdsp

    @gsdsp said:

    @ervin said:

    Thank you, this sounds much better, this demo actually made me want to try it. I downloaded it on the Mac, but it fails validation in Logic Pro. (Your other plugins don't have this problem, they all validate successfully.) I tried twice, same result. M1 Mac mini, Ventura 13.3.1, Logic Pro 10.7.8

    We will investigate this! Thanks for reporting and sorry for the inconvenience..

    @ervin This has been fixed in the latest release, just download the new installer on our website: https://gs-dsp.com

  • gsdspgsdsp

    @ecou If you send us samples we'd be happy to fuse them for you and send you the result ;)

  • HeavyWaterHeavyWater

    @ecou said:

    @gsdsp said:
    @ecou that‘s because in that example the FX is turned down for the high frequencies. If I were to use 100% across the whole spectrum and a high detail setting you can understand everything very clearly

    I added a plus one because I agreed it was a poor showcase.

    Do you have exemple where the vocal is intelligible?

    @ecou said:

    @gsdsp said:
    @ecou that‘s because in that example the FX is turned down for the high frequencies. If I were to use 100% across the whole spectrum and a high detail setting you can understand everything very clearly

    I added a plus one because I agreed it was a poor showcase.

    Do you have exemple where the vocal is intelligible?

    @jjkjjk said:
    Will this go in the bundle?

    Same question. I bought Magic Bundle One (3 Apps) not too long ago. Is this going into a new different bundle, or does Bundle 1 expand?

  • gsdspgsdsp

    @myapologies yes, but you won‘t save anything by waiting ;)

    Same answer ;)
    It's not possible to add products to a bundle once it is in the app store. There will be another bundle containing all four, but as stated above, you won't save anything by waiting.

  • ervinervin

    @gsdsp said:

    @gsdsp said:

    @ervin said:

    Thank you, this sounds much better, this demo actually made me want to try it. I downloaded it on the Mac, but it fails validation in Logic Pro. (Your other plugins don't have this problem, they all validate successfully.) I tried twice, same result. M1 Mac mini, Ventura 13.3.1, Logic Pro 10.7.8

    We will investigate this! Thanks for reporting and sorry for the inconvenience..

    @ervin This has been fixed in the latest release, just download the new installer on our website: https://gs-dsp.com

    @gsdsp - Indeed, this version does validate in Logic. Thank you for the update!

  • ervinervin

    First (obviously subjective) impression after a quick and dirty test of the desktop demo version:

    • I don't need it as a vocoder for voice on the desktop. Not because it doesn't sound good (it does), but because I have Arturia Vocoder V which is great, more than enough for my needs and it's also much simpler for me to set up and use as a classic vocoder
    • that said, this thing is a really interesting beast with its other "fusion" possibilities
    • on iOS (where I can not test it), I'm not really impressed with the existing vocoders that much, so there it can even come to play as a bread-and-butter voice vocoder, let alone all the other things it can do

    Admittedly I'm not into sound design, but this plugin is by far my favourite of the bunch so far.

  • gsdspgsdsp

    @ervin Thanks for the feedback! Glad you like it!

  • ecouecou

    @gsdsp said:
    @ecou If you send us samples we'd be happy to fuse them for you and send you the result ;)

    Will this do ?
    https://samplefocus.com/samples/smooth-vocal-i-will-live-with-my-heart

  • gsdspgsdsp
    edited June 2023

    @ecou Yes, but what should we use as Input / Carrier?

  • gsdspgsdsp

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  • ttkttk

    @gsdsp said:
    @ecou Yes, but what should we use as Input / Carrier?

    Hi @gsdsp, so I guess a carrier signal is mandatory with magic fusion ?

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @ttk said:

    @gsdsp said:
    @ecou Yes, but what should we use as Input / Carrier?

    Hi @gsdsp, so I guess a carrier signal is mandatory with magic fusion ?

    Of course, just as it would be with any vocoder

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @Gavinski said:

    @ttk said:

    @gsdsp said:
    @ecou Yes, but what should we use as Input / Carrier?

    Hi @gsdsp, so I guess a carrier signal is mandatory with magic fusion ?

    Of course, just as it would be with any vocoder

    But it is very easy to set up what is the carrier and what is the modulator - see the vid the dev posted here or on their youtube channel.

  • gsdspgsdsp

    @ttk What @Gavinski said :)

  • ttkttk

    @Gavinski said:

    @ttk said:

    @gsdsp said:
    @ecou Yes, but what should we use as Input / Carrier?

    Hi @gsdsp, so I guess a carrier signal is mandatory with magic fusion ?

    Of course, just as it would be with any vocoder

    I understand.
    though to be fair, the vyrsyn vocoders can with only one input.

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