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Jakob goes modular đ±
Pretty shocking, our @jakoB_haQ goes modular !!
Bro hope you will document whole process on the way, doesnât want to wait one year for documentary lol
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I smell a lot of âsponsored contentâ on the horizon
I really hope module producers will notice him and "sponsor" him .. he deserves more attention and even "sponsored content" can be very honest ..
Very excited about this Jakon's decision cause i am currently very much thinking about jumping on modular train too, so looking forward to hear about his experiences ..
I look forward to him discovering itâs even more fiddly than iOS. đ
I suddenly thought of a joke called Jacob's Ladder Filter. But I will never post it in this forum because every Jacob/Jakob will think "Here we go again".
jumping on modular train == spending enough money to buy a car so I can make bleeps and bloops. Been there, had a great time. It will take many, many trips to the post office for me to get completely out of it.
disagree.. modular is just another tool and if you are creative you can use it to make great music ... it is true that most of people ar using it just for bleeps and bloops but that is just their lack of creativity .. i know few people who are making great music with modular ..
some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/live/8V71sATDTqs
Yeah the bleep bloops are fun but they can do way more than just that
I guess modular is cool unless real polyphony is needed in which case it can get pretty expensive...
...and as for 'great music' it's all a matter of taste really.
I'm more impressed by those who program their music stuff compared to those waving around soldering irons and patch cables
added some examples of great music in post above.. you may not like it but that it doesn't change anything on fact that it is great music and modular can be great tool in hands of talented people...
It will do more than weird fx, but it takes a very huge amount of time to build the synth and develop the patch. And if you turn the synth off, the patch is never quite the same. Even if you leave the synth running the patch is often different the next day. You pretty much have to record constantly.
Itâs the least efficient way to make sounds. Lots of fun though.
I like it, and nearly jumped aboard earlier this year, but itâs too labour intensive for my workflow - all that setting up and patching, and then setting up and patching again to get the next, er, patch.
Saying that I wouldnât say no to a Make Noise Black and Gold system if I won the lotteryâŠ
Nah. You just multitrack. A lot.
Edit: Oops. You did say real polyphony. But it does work well: listen to Tomita or Carlos...
this is feature not bug
one of aspect of modular world i like absolutely most.. every performance is unique act of art which will never repeat (of course if we are talking bout real music not bleeps/bloops lol)
constantbrecording and then reusing recorded material is the way - many great tracks made by Deadmau5 were made exactly this way - he literally turns on recoeding and the tweaks for hours his monster modular - then he revisits recording, cuts out most interesting parts and builds track around them...
and then for claps he just slaps his ass. I like his humor, and music.
If I had the $$, I would do modular.
Specifically tailor made small cases to suit a need. Whole âsystemsâ are prohibitively expensive and are an example IMHOP of âwhen all you have is a hammer everything is a nailâ.
Soooo many desktop synths have CV in/out thatâs itâs great to coordinate the two types of systems together.
Yay for Jakob - I wish everyone had modular experiences on their synth journey
Yeah, true, but I'm not sure what that proves. Even garbage, or at least garbage cans, can be come impressive musical tools in the hands of the right people:
Modular made me realize that polyphony is overrated. Just use FX.
Polyphony made me realize that modular is overrated đ
For me it was the other way around: First a DIY modular, then a Korg Mono/Poly, then a number of mono and polysynths including a Nord Modular and now Drambo.
Counterpoint. Modular made me realize how much I like polyphony and stereo signal paths. And patch recall, but that last one I could likely skip if I had to.
One day Iâll drop some serious coin on a nice modular groovebox of my dreams. SighâŠ
@rs2000 @Tarekith Haha yeah, I don't disagree with either of your points. I go back and forth and overall I have realized that I prefer software to hardware, which is where VCV and Drambo let me do both: have presets and modularity.
Also, when even using modular hardware, I always use iOS or VSTs for fx so the tracks are in stereo.
After two years of going down the modular rabbit hole, I haven't bought anything in the last year but will get iOS AUs and the occasional VST.
I had a pretty slick eurorack at one point. It was basically a Shared System but some stuff swapped out.
I canât remember exactly when I sold it but it was around the time the Spectrum bundle was released. I donât regret owning it because it taught me so much, it just never sounded great to me.
Now with an MS10&20 that is enough modular for me combined with Drambo. The only thing I miss a lot is the ultra fast envelopes from the west coast stuff.
I still don't understand the appeal of modular myself, but if @jakoB_haQ makes a video (and I'm betting proper money he will) about modular and makes it look sexy, I may as well revisit miRack.
For me the attraction is having hardware knobs to twiddle - playing with the filters and oscillators on my MS20 for example is so much more fun, and faster than mucking about on desktop or iPad.
I havenât got a proper modular system, but Iâm guessing itâs like the MS20 x 10. Thatâs 10x more fun, but the bit that puts me off is having to set everything up each time I want to play with a new patch. And the cost.
I like the idea of it but Iâm pretty sure I wouldnât like the reality of it, and I definitely wouldnât like the expense, though I understand the resale value is great, so itâs arguably a cheaper hobby than iOS, but ONLY if you sell everything you bought, which hardly seems likely. I also wouldnât want the bulk. Iâve moved around quite a bit in life, and amassing stuff is such a hassle.
Definitely think of it as two different practices.
My iPad is where I go to make complete, finished, pieces as efficiently as possible. My Eurorack and other hardware is where I go to nerd out, tweak, and mess with actual physical stuff as a kind of âworking meditation â, and for the sheer joy and unexpectedness that only knob twiddling actual knobs can provide.
I keep my Tascam Model 12 running the whole time, in case any lightning might need a bottle, and then, if I feel like it, I can go and snip out bits I like. Intrigued to hear an actual famous producer like Deadmaus uses the same approach.
No question. If I was free to choose, I'd always choose knobs over touchscreens except for XY pads đ
I'm often using a super simple 4-knob and 2-button MIDI controller that I just map to whatever I'm currently tweaking. Remembering huge mappings on a large controller that change from time to time is not my thing and mapping only 4 knobs is super fast once you've trained that muscle memory.
And space!
These are exactly my reasons why I don't want a modular back, although there are really incredible modules out there today.
Thatâs how I do it too. I got sick of losing all the good stuff that happened, it makes great sample fodder.
Yes that's exactly Joel's workflow .. he just turns on recording (i think he uses Ableton Live) and then for hours he just patches and tweaks his gigantic modular - instant fun and creativity, lot of unusable bleeps and bloops - and between that here and there great musical idea.. then he sits behign comuter, cuts recroded material and when he founds something good, he just builds track around it ..
I think that is absolutely great use not just for modular, but in general for any synth..
Absolutely THIS, perfectly said !! It's almost spiritual experience do get lost with wires, knobs, buttons and blinkink leds in half dark room. Actually not "almost", it just its.