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  • It’s definitely something helpful if you’re getting stuck in a loop. Sometimes ideas just need change in dynamics and tension to keep them interesting.

    Nothing wrong with copying the form/structure from a track you like either.

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  • @BroCoast said:
    It’s definitely something helpful if you’re getting stuck in a loop. Sometimes ideas just need change in dynamics and tension to keep them interesting.

    Nothing wrong with copying the form/structure from a track you like either.

    I’d go so far as to say copying song and structure development of music you like is a pretty essential aspect of learning the craft. There may be occasional exceptions, but I think one will find that pretty much any musician/composer one admires spent a lot of time copying the elements of the music they liked on their way to mastering their craft.

  • @tja said:
    I found this video to be very interesting and helpful:

    Based on a single short loop, a whole song get's created - structure and reasons very well explained!

    Sometimes getting a total arrangement out of a loop is where many quit and start a new idea. Song arrangement tips are always helpfull, thanks for sharing.
    The House Of Kush also adds to this:
    When adding a new track/loop to the arrangement always do so with 2 tracks. Or 4 or 6, but always with 2 as base. When the song has lots of different tracks, pick 3 as base…
    Add 2 and remove 2 others, or add 2 and remove 6, or add 3 and remove 9. Also no need to add, when removing or vice versa.
    The impact of change can improve the arrangement when picking the right tracks to add/remove.

  • wimwim
    edited June 2023

    omg. Those are either the biggest headphones I've ever seen or the guy has a very, very tiny head! 😂
    $2,500!

    Sorry. Great vid. Thanks for posting @tja. 😎

  • edited June 2023

    Whatever happened to verses, choruses, bridges, pre choruses etc. ABACAB if you wanna keep it simple.

    The old advice was always buy a Beatles songbook. All you need is Love within those pages.

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  • @klownshed said:
    Whatever happened to verses, choruses, bridges, pre choruses etc. ABACAB if you wanna keep it simple.

    The old advice was always buy a Beatles songbook. All you need is Love within those pages.

    That’s helpful for pop songwriting but won’t do much good for styles where the same theme continues the whole way through as demonstrated in the video.

    Eg. making something like this:

    Theme stays the same but it ends up with a pop structure based on the variation of other parts.

  • wimwim
    edited June 2023

    @tja said:

    @wim said:
    omg. Those are either the biggest headphones I've ever seen or the guy has a very, very tiny head! 😂
    $2,500!

    You did search them out? 😅
    Brand / Product?

    Ah - I see the link now, while quoting.
    Did not get that it was a link: https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/audeze-lcd-r-review-and-measurements.11489/

    Yeh. I searched through the video until I could capture a decent image, then used google image search. Couldn't help myself.

    $2,500 is a lot for headphones! But I seriously, that kind of fidelity is crucial for monitoring when you're creating a YouTube video, no? 😛

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  • @tja said:

    @wim said:
    $2,500 is a lot for headphones! But I seriously, that kind of fidelity is crucial for monitoring when you're creating a YouTube video, no? 😛

    I wouldn't pay as much, but when you're earning your money with them and they give you this "right feeling" ...

    I read that there are even more expensive headphones ... there seems to be a market.

    I will stay with my Sennheiser HD590 as long as they work.

    Well, I call it good showmanship. He makes the video look like all that editing and monitoring is done live. It's a bunch of clips well edited together. The cans are just props (and that's a good thing). He does a good job.

    And he can spend as much as he wants on his headphones. I have great admiration for anyone who resists the urge to do head-bobs when his track is playing back. 😉

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