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Still using Glitchscaper?

Curious how people are feeling about Glitchscaper a few months down the line? Using it? In what ways? Enjoying it?

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  • I...never bought it yet since it's a pretty
    complex app and I need to learn the other more complex apps I already have mate. 😅

  • Yes. Still use and love it. :)

  • @Gavinski said:
    Curious how people are feeling about Glitchscaper a few months down the line? Using it? In what ways? Enjoying it?

    What about you? I didnt buy it, partly because I was on an attempted purchase hiatus. I failed in the attempt after a week or two, then I wanted other apps. Wondering if I should revisit that app for consideration.

  • oh snap I've got some holes in my Vasilev collection.

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I...never bought it yet since it's a pretty complex app and I need to learn the other more complex apps I already have mate. 😅

    I have no idea what his things do, really, It's just that they sound nice, and when you turn the buttons, they still sound nice, only different.
    Ideal, really. So you kind of get a feeling for them, rather than an understanding. At least that's the case with SoundSaw. God I love SoundSaw.

  • @sveinbjorn said:
    oh snap I've got some holes in my Vasilev collection.

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I...never bought it yet since it's a pretty complex app and I need to learn the other more complex apps I already have mate. 😅

    I have no idea what his things do, really, It's just that they sound nice, and when you turn the buttons, they still sound nice, only different.
    Ideal, really. So you kind of get a feeling for them, rather than an understanding. At least that's the case with SoundSaw. God I love SoundSaw.

    SoundSaw is absolutely brilliant. :) Well, I guess that's all one can do is play with the AUv3 and get a feel for it. It's how I learned Rymdigare. Mysterious tool, fun interface, seriously great for Ambient.

  • I definitely still use it. Haven’t opened it in the last few weeks but it for regular use from me for the first few months I had it, and it’s still one of my favorite somewhat recent releases.

    Think I’m gonna open it back up today.

  • It’s a brilliant sound design tool, especially since the last update. And probably one the most accessible of the Vasilev app family. Loving it in Ableton too.

  • Is the new stream mode an addition to the loop recorder? Or a replacement? Because I don’t want to update if it replaces it.

    I found I liked using it to mute drum loops in interesting ways on one channel, and still have other channels available for synthesis.
    My interpretation of the description is that stream mode occupies all six channel, which is cool, but still hoping loop mode exists?

    Also, I’m curious about Soundsaw. I really like Broohahaizer, but wish it was gate able with the sound source. It sounds like Soundsaw envelope may fit the bill. Any one have both Soundsaw and broohahaizer to know what I’m talking about?

  • @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Is the new stream mode an addition to the loop recorder? Or a replacement? Because I don’t want to update if it replaces it.

    I found I liked using it to mute drum loops in interesting ways on one channel, and still have other channels available for synthesis.
    My interpretation of the description is that stream mode occupies all six channel, which is cool, but still hoping loop mode exists?

    Also, I’m curious about Soundsaw. I really like Broohahaizer, but wish it was gate able with the sound source. It sounds like Soundsaw envelope may fit the bill. Any one have both Soundsaw and broohahaizer to know what I’m talking about?

    In addition. You can choose differently for each generator. Either stream, tone, noise, or loop

  • @skiphunt said:

    @Blipsford_Baubie said:
    Is the new stream mode an addition to the loop recorder? Or a replacement? Because I don’t want to update if it replaces it.

    I found I liked using it to mute drum loops in interesting ways on one channel, and still have other channels available for synthesis.
    My interpretation of the description is that stream mode occupies all six channel, which is cool, but still hoping loop mode exists?

    Also, I’m curious about Soundsaw. I really like Broohahaizer, but wish it was gate able with the sound source. It sounds like Soundsaw envelope may fit the bill. Any one have both Soundsaw and broohahaizer to know what I’m talking about?

    In addition. You can choose differently for each generator. Either stream, tone, noise, or loop

    Copy. Thanks for clarifying! Over.

  • @GUB said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Curious how people are feeling about Glitchscaper a few months down the line? Using it? In what ways? Enjoying it?

    What about you? I didnt buy it, partly because I was on an attempted purchase hiatus. I failed in the attempt after a week or two, then I wanted other apps. Wondering if I should revisit that app for consideration.

    I'm not a fan of the workflow tbh. Too many taps needed going through all those hidden menus. OK if you want to just use the randomise features I guess, but for dialing things in I found it tedious to work with. I'm just wondering whether I should give it another go.

  • For me all of his apps are nothing but pain to use. Dunno why people praise them so much.

  • Used in the track I just finished and on another track I made in the past. I find the sounds sometimes a bit too harsh for style of music I make, but if you can tame them using the right filters/effect it's pretty nice. I too don't like the workflow that much but the final output can be very unique. Also Glitchscaper + Replicant ftw.

  • Havent used ipads for a while

    but will be back to Beatcutter.

  • I used it to create interesting textures in this track, Glitchscaper runs all the way through it. I think it can create beautiful and interesting atmospheres.

  • What about Thermo?

    Still mapping that to a controller.

  • edited June 2023

    @richardyot said:
    I used it to create interesting textures in this track, Glitchscaper runs all the way through it. I think it can create beautiful and interesting atmospheres.

    Nice one! Yeah can definitely hear Glitchscaper in the earlier part.

    @rvr said:
    For me all of his apps are nothing but pain to use. Dunno why people praise them so much.

    I think a lot of them have fundamental weaknesses in the UI / UX. I prefer the simple ones like Soundsaw to the ones with complex interfaces. With a better design ethos even the complex apps would be more enjoyable to use than they currently are. The apps are capable of some unique sonic results (there's really nothing like Spacefields, once you learn to use it, the presets are just examples of what it can do and will sound bad on most inputs) but sure, those results will not be to everyone's taste

  • @sigma79 said:
    What about Thermo?

    Still mapping that to a controller.

    Your point is that thermo has a bad UI? Yes it does, by a different dev though so not really relevant, though it often seems that devs with a leaning towards very experimental sound are often a bit lacking in UI / UX department.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @sigma79 said:
    What about Thermo?

    Still mapping that to a controller.

    Your point is that thermo has a bad UI? Yes it does, by a different dev though so not really relevant, though it often seems that devs with a leaning towards very experimental sound are often a bit lacking in UI / UX department.

    Thermo is good.

    Just remembered you liking Thermo.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @richardyot said:
    I used it to create interesting textures in this track, Glitchscaper runs all the way through it. I think it can create beautiful and interesting atmospheres.

    Nice one! Yeah can definitely hear Glitchscaper in the earlier part.

    @rvr said:
    For me all of his apps are nothing but pain to use. Dunno why people praise them so much.

    I think a lot of them have fundamental weaknesses in the UI / UX. I prefer the simple ones like Soundsaw to the ones with complex interfaces. With a better design ethos even the complex apps would be more enjoyable to use than they currently are. The apps are capable of some unique sonic results (there's really nothing like Spacefields, once you learn to use it, the presets are just examples of what it can do and will sound bad on most inputs) but sure, those results will not be to everyone's taste

    Yeah Igor’s UIs are not inviting at all but damn do I love his work. Beatcutter is the only one I just can’t quite wrap my head around. I’d love to take a real shot at it some day though. As far as apps like Spacefields, Glitchscaper, and Soundscaper, there’s just nothing like them. Soundscaper in particular is one of my favorite albeit one of his least accessible.

  • I emailed Igor about adding the option of having all the controls for each generator on a single page and he seemed quite receptive to the idea so hopefully in the next update.

  • @Gavinski said:

    @GUB said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Curious how people are feeling about Glitchscaper a few months down the line? Using it? In what ways? Enjoying it?

    What about you? I didnt buy it, partly because I was on an attempted purchase hiatus. I failed in the attempt after a week or two, then I wanted other apps. Wondering if I should revisit that app for consideration.

    I'm not a fan of the workflow tbh. Too many taps needed going through all those hidden menus. OK if you want to just use the randomise features I guess, but for dialing things in I found it tedious to work with. I'm just wondering whether I should give it another go.

    I seem to recall (?) it is on the roadmap to have a mode where you select the voice and all the params show up on screen at once. Makes more sense to me. i think I kind of bailed in anticipation of that coming and then just got distracted and forgot about the app heh.

  • I think some people just have an idea that whatever interface choices they prefer are the only correct approach. I never have any trouble with Igor's interface design. I just love all his work. Glitchscaper is a big hit for me... one of my favorites. I wouldn't change a thing.

    Synthscaper is brilliant, but I do have to refresh my memory on that one's interface if I haven't used it in awhile. The rest of them are golden for me. To each their own.

  • @skiphunt said:
    I think some people just have an idea that whatever interface choices they prefer are the only correct approach. I never have any trouble with Igor's interface design. I just love all his work. Glitchscaper is a big hit for me... one of my favorites. I wouldn't change a thing.

    Synthscaper is brilliant, but I do have to refresh my memory on that one's interface if I haven't used it in awhile. The rest of them are golden for me. To each their own.

    That’s the only app I don’t have of is (I have the LE version) but I can get around all the interface’s pretty well except Beatcutter. It’s never clicked for some reason. Also Fieldscaper always requires a refresher when I dive back in.

  • @HotStrange said:

    @skiphunt said:
    I think some people just have an idea that whatever interface choices they prefer are the only correct approach. I never have any trouble with Igor's interface design. I just love all his work. Glitchscaper is a big hit for me... one of my favorites. I wouldn't change a thing.

    Synthscaper is brilliant, but I do have to refresh my memory on that one's interface if I haven't used it in awhile. The rest of them are golden for me. To each their own.

    That’s the only app I don’t have of is (I have the LE version) but I can get around all the interface’s pretty well except Beatcutter. It’s never clicked for some reason. Also Fieldscaper always requires a refresher when I dive back in.

    Here’s a tip to possibly understand Beatcutter better:

    Go into the app and hit the question mark for the in-app help guide. Scroll down to “Feedback Mode”.

    Read that and set it up following Igor’s instructions. It’s very easy.

    You basically create an ever changing soundscape. Nearly generative. But that’s not the point. If you set that up and listen to what it’s doing. Then change some of the settings and hear what it’s doing… then do it all over a couple times… I think you’ll have a much better understanding of the app and what it does.

    Doesn’t take more than a couple minutes to set it up according to Igor’s instructions. Try that and let me know if it then kinda makes a lot more sense.

  • Regarding Beatcutter, I had sat on the fence for a good few weeks. I read all user comments and decided not to purchase because Memorybackwards 2.0 sounded similar on paper. (It’s a Drambo module made by Ben Richards on the patch storage sight).

    My reasoning was that I can crack memory backwards faster, but it still took me a couple weeks to crack it and bend it to my will 😂. The only thing fundamentally missing is the repitching, I think. But I’m happy with the results I get. Enough to cure me of gassing for it.

    I did end up buying Soundsaw though. Very nice indeed. Versatile noise tool.

  • @skiphunt said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @skiphunt said:
    I think some people just have an idea that whatever interface choices they prefer are the only correct approach. I never have any trouble with Igor's interface design. I just love all his work. Glitchscaper is a big hit for me... one of my favorites. I wouldn't change a thing.

    Synthscaper is brilliant, but I do have to refresh my memory on that one's interface if I haven't used it in awhile. The rest of them are golden for me. To each their own.

    That’s the only app I don’t have of is (I have the LE version) but I can get around all the interface’s pretty well except Beatcutter. It’s never clicked for some reason. Also Fieldscaper always requires a refresher when I dive back in.

    Here’s a tip to possibly understand Beatcutter better:

    Go into the app and hit the question mark for the in-app help guide. Scroll down to “Feedback Mode”.

    Read that and set it up following Igor’s instructions. It’s very easy.

    You basically create an ever changing soundscape. Nearly generative. But that’s not the point. If you set that up and listen to what it’s doing. Then change some of the settings and hear what it’s doing… then do it all over a couple times… I think you’ll have a much better understanding of the app and what it does.

    Doesn’t take more than a couple minutes to set it up according to Igor’s instructions. Try that and let me know if it then kinda makes a lot more sense.

    Thanks for this, I’ll definitely need to that 😂

  • Funny... Synthscaper does nothing for me, don't like the sounds for whatever reason. Yes, to each their own. But there have been plenty of criticisms of these Igor interfaces down the years and I've rarely met anyone claiming they're perfect. Maybe your thought process or way of working chimes with Igor's, if so, congrats! > @skiphunt said:

    I think some people just have an idea that whatever interface choices they prefer are the only correct approach. I never have any trouble with Igor's interface design. I just love all his work. Glitchscaper is a big hit for me... one of my favorites. I wouldn't change a thing.

    Synthscaper is brilliant, but I do have to refresh my memory on that one's interface if I haven't used it in awhile. The rest of them are golden for me. To each their own.

  • @Gavinski said:
    Funny... Synthscaper does nothing for me, don't like the sounds for whatever reason. Yes, to each their own. But there have been plenty of criticisms of these Igor interfaces down the years and I've rarely met anyone claiming they're perfect. Maybe your thought process or way of working chimes with Igor's, if so, congrats! > @skiphunt said:

    I think some people just have an idea that whatever interface choices they prefer are the only correct approach. I never have any trouble with Igor's interface design. I just love all his work. Glitchscaper is a big hit for me... one of my favorites. I wouldn't change a thing.

    Synthscaper is brilliant, but I do have to refresh my memory on that one's interface if I haven't used it in awhile. The rest of them are golden for me. To each their own.

    There are plenty of us who love Igor's apps and the interface aesthetic. There's nothing wrong with folks like you who don't seem to jive with an given developer's design choices. But some profess their opinions as if they're the only legitimate opinion.

    I know that I don't personally agree with your opinions sometimes. That's your right! Other times I'm completely on board with your opinions. But, you know what they say about opinions, ie. they're like a-holes... everyone's got one. ;)

    What I love about Synthscaper is the ability to craft completely unique synths that can start with your own samples and can be designed in a completely personal way.

    My guess is that you've mostly only used the presets and samples that come with Synthscaper. yes? If so, I can see how you might find them a bit harsh. However, if you import your own source samples and work with those only, I bet there's a good chance you'd change your mind about Synthscaper.

    There's a feature in Synthscaper that Igor added somewhat later. I can't recall the name, but it's a "Auto Designer". I you're so inclined... try taking some sample sound files that you love and import those into SynthScaper. Then, instead of fussing too much with the somewhat cryptic interface, try using that "Auto Designer" feature on your own sounds and then see how you like what SynthScaper can do with them. Hit the "Auto Designer" a few times until you get something you like.

    Or, you may find that it's simply not quite your cup of tea... and that's fine too.

  • @skiphunt said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Funny... Synthscaper does nothing for me, don't like the sounds for whatever reason. Yes, to each their own. But there have been plenty of criticisms of these Igor interfaces down the years and I've rarely met anyone claiming they're perfect. Maybe your thought process or way of working chimes with Igor's, if so, congrats! > @skiphunt said:

    I think some people just have an idea that whatever interface choices they prefer are the only correct approach. I never have any trouble with Igor's interface design. I just love all his work. Glitchscaper is a big hit for me... one of my favorites. I wouldn't change a thing.

    Synthscaper is brilliant, but I do have to refresh my memory on that one's interface if I haven't used it in awhile. The rest of them are golden for me. To each their own.

    There are plenty of us who love Igor's apps and the interface aesthetic. There's nothing wrong with folks like you who don't seem to jive with an given developer's design choices. But some profess their opinions as if they're the only legitimate opinion.

    Yah you will always get people who profess their subjective opinion as being an objective truth in just about everything in life. You get used to it though. Hang in there!

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