Recommended post production DAWs that are not subscription

Bruques

If I can pick y'alls brains,
what other iOS DAWs does anybody like as mixing environments?
EG Cubasis, nano studio, FL, Auria, _______?

so while Logic Pro isn't itself positioned as a post production app, and is a decent all rounder for production, as far as my own workflow and iOS that's how I think of it, a bit like how Pro Tools in the old days didn't even have midi, I'm treating Logic on iOS as not for producing (even though that's probably its focus). For me, my workflow, Loopy Pro is performing, and performing replaces production largely, pieces of performances are or at least can be productions, and those pieces can then be post produced IE mixed and even mastered in my preferred mix DAW.

I don't actually need any Logic plugins at all. (Sculpture as a synth I might like to use but otherwise I'm good).
I have the Logic subscription, just kicked in for the year, but I just don't like the idea.

Thanks for your thoughts

jwmmakerofmusic

I used to use AUM for mastering my EPs as a live performance. I also used to use Cubasis 3 for regular mastering if I didn't feel like live performing a mastering session. LP4i (Logic Pro) is better than Cubasis for the latter. I can loop sections easier in LP4i, and LP4i has its own Loudness Meter and nice Adaptive Limiter.

ecou

Auria is perfect for mixing master. Auria had a buggy period but it is fixed now.

Some people say the have problems with Auria but I suspect they are doing more than mixing and mastering.

[Deleted User]

I like AEM for it's FX lanes with flexible parallel processing options and its busses/sends..

Bruques

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
I used to use AUM for mastering my EPs as a live performance. I also used to use Cubasis 3 for regular mastering if I didn't feel like live performing a mastering session. LP4i (Logic Pro) is better than Cubasis for the latter. I can loop sections easier in LP4i, and LP4i has its own Loudness Meter and nice Adaptive Limiter.

That's quite interesting that you live perform a master, like traditional gear jockeys King JWMubby
Yeah LP4i is getting better each revision as far as metering, used to be way behind till recently. Still doesn't have a few things EG I'd love a great A/B utility like Adaptr, MCompare, Magic, Reference, etc.
(Anybody know of an AUv3 A/B plugin like those?)
BTW Does it have an oscilloscope yet or are we still using plugins?
In contrast to your experience with looping sections in LP4i, I'm not so far convinced, my LP4i user experience isn't great so far. Not the main reason to try others but one of.
(And actually all of this is an aside because the point is mainly I'm not looking to use LP4i after all as I would ideally not rent anything).

Cubasis is almost tempting just for Waves H-Delay I love that delay unit so much. Mayhem can be achieved or just damn good production delays. Not that I can't use other things instead but H-Delay is just perfect and definitely a good one for the main delay busses of a mix.

@ecou said:
Auria is perfect for mixing master. Auria had a buggy period but it is fixed now.

Some people say the have problems with Auria but I suspect they are doing more than mixing and mastering.

Spec looks great I will have to try it, I love that it has ZTX which is the most remarkable time stretch algo I've used, the trick being to convert the material to mega high sample rates first then stretch then return to 44. Albeit I'm not doing that these days, but old days of remixing, ZTX did amazing at that.

@pruddo said:
I like AEM for it's FX lanes with flexible parallel processing options and its busses/sends..

... and clearly I should give AEM a spin as well and compare these two. The fact that its MPE means I already approve even if Im not likely to use it as I did that part before bringing the stuff over. MPE is my obsession as a Linnstrumentalist.

I already have toneboosters stuff but interesting that they're an AEM IAP.

I probably just have to spend a few days with all of these

Thanks y'all

jwmmakerofmusic

@Bruques said:

@jwmmakerofmusic said:
I used to use AUM for mastering my EPs as a live performance. I also used to use Cubasis 3 for regular mastering if I didn't feel like live performing a mastering session. LP4i (Logic Pro) is better than Cubasis for the latter. I can loop sections easier in LP4i, and LP4i has its own Loudness Meter and nice Adaptive Limiter.

That's quite interesting that you live perform a master, like traditional gear jockeys King JWMubby

LOL! Yep, a lot of my Lofi EPs on Bandcamp were ran through AUM live, like a traditional gear jockey, lol. But truth be told, I'd like to use LP4i to master. Would go a lot quicker, lol.

Yeah LP4i is getting better each revision as far as metering, used to be way behind till recently. Still doesn't have a few things EG I'd love a great A/B utility like Adaptr, MCompare, Magic, Reference, etc.
(Anybody know of an AUv3 A/B plugin like those?)

I'll be interested to know this too.

BTW Does it have an oscilloscope yet or are we still using plugins?

Not sure. I think we're still using plugins for oscilloscopes.

In contrast to your experience with looping sections in LP4i, I'm not so far convinced, my LP4i user experience isn't great so far. Not the main reason to try others but one of.

Ah, I see.

(And actually all of this is an aside because the point is mainly I'm not looking to use LP4i after all as I would ideally not rent anything).

Lol, I understand.

Cubasis is almost tempting just for Waves H-Delay I love that delay unit so much. Mayhem can be achieved or just damn good production delays. Not that I can't use other things instead but H-Delay is just perfect and definitely a good one for the main delay busses of a mix.

Does Cubasis have Waves H-Delay? I know it has some Waves plugins. I haven't redownloaded CB3 on my iPad Mini 6, so I wouldn't know. 😅

Bruques

@jwmmakerofmusic said:

@Bruques said:
Cubasis is almost tempting just for Waves H-Delay I love that delay unit so much. Mayhem can be achieved or just damn good production delays. Not that I can't use other things instead but H-Delay is just perfect and definitely a good one for the main delay busses of a mix.

Does Cubasis have Waves H-Delay? I know it has some Waves plugins. I haven't redownloaded CB3 on my iPad Mini 6, so I wouldn't know. 😅

Apparently it does:
https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/steinberg-cubasis-32
"For iOS users... This adds the excellent H‑Delay plug‑in to the existing Waves plug‑in IAP (making four plug‑ins in total alongside the L1 Ultramaximiser, Q10 Equalizer and Audiotrack (compressor, EQ and gate in a single plug‑in). Existing owners of this IAP get H‑Delay added for free while new users can buy the bundle for £19.99... iOS users also get a new Waves IAP Plug‑in option: Tune Real‑Time. Mobile music makers have waited a pretty long time for one of the serious desktop pitch‑correction plug‑ins to make it over to iOS, but that wait now looks like it’s over and, at a remarkable £4.99, this is a steal in anyone’s book. OK, so Waves Tune Real‑Time doesn’t quite go as far as desktop pitch‑correction giants like Auto‑Tune or Melodyne, but it is seriously good. "

NoiseHorse

H-Delay works great in Cubasis 3.

dendy

Cubasis 3 obviously for this purpose .. other have more colnvoluted UI, Cubasis simplicity is best for this use case.

Bruques

@dendy said:
Cubasis 3 obviously for this purpose .. other have more colnvoluted UI, Cubasis simplicity is best for this use case.

Noted, interesting take from the boards resident UI/UX consultant. I will give it a spin.

dendy

@Bruques said:
Noted, interesting take from the boards resident UI/UX consultant. I will give it a spin.

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