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How to think more like a modular synthesist?

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  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    This might not be what you're trying for, but Eno-style ambient is ridiculously easy in AUM. Get some loops, trim them so no two are the same length, and loop them in AUM file players. The longer the loops and the more you have of them, the longer before you will hear the same combination of sounds twice.

    For infinite variation, put a separate LFO on each loop's fader. Each LFO at its own speed--slower is better. No tempo syncing. Use sine or triangle waves for the smoothest mix. This will give you an infinitely varied ambient mix.

    Wait so you can point an LFO at the individual faders of each track in AUM? I missed this somehow 😯

    Yes, you can automate AUM faders with LFOs. That's what I was doing in the video I posted above.

    You can also slap an AUM filter on the channel and LFO that at a different speed for added interest. Or an AUM panner, or AUM mid/side balance. Etc. Those signal processing utility modules in AUM are good targets for LFOs.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Fingolfinzz

    That is an interesting path, and maybe I will try percussive stuff first to get familiar with Modular. :)

    @Svetlovska

    I do know miRack runs inside of AUM, but yeah I didn't know to record everything, lol. That's great to know. :)

    @dendy

    Yeah I didn't know I could do it like that. I wanted to make the completely self-sustained generative patch, but you're right. It's very knowledge-demanding. You and Svetlovska are right on the money.

    And since I have Logic Pro, it should be easy to slice and dice the output, create fades, etc, using the slicing tool and the inspector.

    Thanks for hooking me up to this very interesting channel by the way. :) This will come in handy for sure.

    @ik2000

    Perfect! I didn't dawn on me to look up VCV Rack videos since both miRack and VCV Rack share a lot of the same modules (as I found out last night browsing the miRack website).

    @Luxthor

    Yeah, scripting in Mosaic is a "hella don't" for me, lol. Maybe someday I'll be able to use Drambo to its full potential, but as of right now I want to learn modular through miRack first so I can transfer my knowledge to any modular platform.

    What's cool about miRack is I can also use it on my iPhone (at least to sort out what modules I want to use once I get the hang of learning all 600+ modules).

    But yes, your advice is very sage and wise aout keeping my musical mojo intact. :) If I fail at miRack a second time, I'll just go back to AUM and NS2 and Gadget, lol.

    @bygjohn

    I'm glad I started this thread. Honestly these type of threads are my favourites, whether I create them or someone else does. I gain so much knowledge and sage advice about how to utilise said knowledge. :) It's all about personal musical growth.

    @senhorlampada

    That sounds like a fun time to me. :) Best of luck mate.

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    Also sounds like fun. :)

    @everyone

    This thread is the best thread in a long time here. We're all learning so much here from each other, and this makes the forum feel like home. ❤️

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    This might not be what you're trying for, but Eno-style ambient is ridiculously easy in AUM. Get some loops, trim them so no two are the same length, and loop them in AUM file players. The longer the loops and the more you have of them, the longer before you will hear the same combination of sounds twice.

    For infinite variation, put a separate LFO on each loop's fader. Each LFO at its own speed--slower is better. No tempo syncing. Use sine or triangle waves for the smoothest mix. This will give you an infinitely varied ambient mix.

    Wait so you can point an LFO at the individual faders of each track in AUM? I missed this somehow 😯

    To automate a fader in AUM just click on the name at the bottom of the channel under the output node, click on the ‘faders’ icon on top left that appears in the pop up, just left of the words ‘edit channel’, then tap on ‘channel controls’. Then assign your midi sources to volume.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    This might not be what you're trying for, but Eno-style ambient is ridiculously easy in AUM. Get some loops, trim them so no two are the same length, and loop them in AUM file players. The longer the loops and the more you have of them, the longer before you will hear the same combination of sounds twice.

    For infinite variation, put a separate LFO on each loop's fader. Each LFO at its own speed--slower is better. No tempo syncing. Use sine or triangle waves for the smoothest mix. This will give you an infinitely varied ambient mix.

    Wait so you can point an LFO at the individual faders of each track in AUM? I missed this somehow 😯

    To automate a fader in AUM just click on the name at the bottom of the channel under the output node, click on the ‘faders’ icon on top left that appears in the pop up, just left of the words ‘edit channel’, then tap on ‘channel controls’. Then assign your midi sources to volume.

    As the kids these days say, "I am today's years old when I found that out." 😂

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    This might not be what you're trying for, but Eno-style ambient is ridiculously easy in AUM. Get some loops, trim them so no two are the same length, and loop them in AUM file players. The longer the loops and the more you have of them, the longer before you will hear the same combination of sounds twice.

    For infinite variation, put a separate LFO on each loop's fader. Each LFO at its own speed--slower is better. No tempo syncing. Use sine or triangle waves for the smoothest mix. This will give you an infinitely varied ambient mix.

    Wait so you can point an LFO at the individual faders of each track in AUM? I missed this somehow 😯

    To automate a fader in AUM just click on the name at the bottom of the channel under the output node, click on the ‘faders’ icon on top left that appears in the pop up, just left of the words ‘edit channel’, then tap on ‘channel controls’. Then assign your midi sources to volume.

    As the kids these days say, "I am today's years old when I found that out." 😂

    Lmao right?? I may have audibly gasped at that one 😂 I’m not seeing how to do it though 🤔 it’s not showing up in the exposed parameters.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    This might not be what you're trying for, but Eno-style ambient is ridiculously easy in AUM. Get some loops, trim them so no two are the same length, and loop them in AUM file players. The longer the loops and the more you have of them, the longer before you will hear the same combination of sounds twice.

    For infinite variation, put a separate LFO on each loop's fader. Each LFO at its own speed--slower is better. No tempo syncing. Use sine or triangle waves for the smoothest mix. This will give you an infinitely varied ambient mix.

    Wait so you can point an LFO at the individual faders of each track in AUM? I missed this somehow 😯

    To automate a fader in AUM just click on the name at the bottom of the channel under the output node, click on the ‘faders’ icon on top left that appears in the pop up, just left of the words ‘edit channel’, then tap on ‘channel controls’. Then assign your midi sources to volume.

    Sweet. Thank you 🙏 gonna try it now.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    This might not be what you're trying for, but Eno-style ambient is ridiculously easy in AUM. Get some loops, trim them so no two are the same length, and loop them in AUM file players. The longer the loops and the more you have of them, the longer before you will hear the same combination of sounds twice.

    For infinite variation, put a separate LFO on each loop's fader. Each LFO at its own speed--slower is better. No tempo syncing. Use sine or triangle waves for the smoothest mix. This will give you an infinitely varied ambient mix.

    Wait so you can point an LFO at the individual faders of each track in AUM? I missed this somehow 😯

    Yes, you can automate AUM faders with LFOs. That's what I was doing in the video I posted above.

    You can also slap an AUM filter on the channel and LFO that at a different speed for added interest. Or an AUM panner, or AUM mid/side balance. Etc. Those signal processing utility modules in AUM are good targets for LFOs.

    The panners! Of course! Idk why I haven’t thought to try any of that yet. I use the panner a lot but never even considered automating it.

  • wimwim

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    Perfect! I didn't dawn on me to look up VCV Rack videos since both miRack and VCV Rack share a lot of the same modules (as I found out last night browsing the miRack website).

    Omri Cohen's channel is really good for that. He usually focuses explaining a just a few modules while at the same time building out an interesting generative patch. The pace is reasonable and the detail is pretty good. If you start with his older videos most of the modules exist in miRack. As time goes on he has made more use of VCV 2 compatible modules that aren't in miRack.

  • dendydendy
    edited July 2023

    @jwmmakerofmusic

    here one example of usimg modular.. just yesterday evening had liltle session.. i just tweaked modular and when i got something interesting i just recorded loop into digitakt and then disconnectd cables and started again .. this way i recorded what is playing from Digitakt (on right side) from tracks 6,7,8 .. then just added some drums and pad from digitone

    I am sending MIDI into modular from Digitone and audio goes back into Digitone and from digitone into Digitakt - this way i can apply in realtime chorus/delay/reverb on Digitone into modular ..

    I believ eyou can reproduce this workflow with any DAW on iOS , including NS2 ...

  • bygjohnbygjohn

    @wim said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    Perfect! I didn't dawn on me to look up VCV Rack videos since both miRack and VCV Rack share a lot of the same modules (as I found out last night browsing the miRack website).

    Omri Cohen's channel is really good for that. He usually focuses explaining a just a few modules while at the same time building out an interesting generative patch. The pace is reasonable and the detail is pretty good. If you start with his older videos most of the modules exist in miRack. As time goes on he has made more use of VCV 2 compatible modules that aren't in miRack.

    Omri’s channel is a goldmine, particularly those early videos that also apply to MiRack. He’s got whole series on the different modes in Plaits and Braids, plus most of the other MI modules (they’re called Audible Instruments in MiRack, Plaits is Macro Oscillator 2, Braids is Macro Oscillator - the descriptions tell you the original names).

    @jwmmakerofmusic Plaits is a great place to start, partly as it has a huge number of different sound sources in it, partly as it also has a built-in LPG (there’s a menu option that turns two of the knobs blue so you can tweak the LPG), so you can use it as a complete voice while you experiment with other modules, modulation etc. However, if you find the sheer number of options confusing, it may not be a good starting point for you, see how you feel.

    @dendy Nice work!

  • colorsinspacecolorsinspace
    edited July 2023

    Here’s a quick tutorial i made a while back on making a lofi piano.
    You’ll need Mutable instruments Rings, a noise source, low pass gate, Mutable Instruments Clouds and a gate/cv (Mutable Instruments Marbles which is also in MI rack would work)

    All of these things you can find in MI Rack.

    RIP Che.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    So many cool videos and things to check out. I'll catch up really soon and respond individually, lol.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @wim

    Omri Cohen is really awesome. I poured through some of his videos, and I'm starting to gain a better understanding of miRack, even if he uses VCV Rack. :) Potato, po-tah-to.

    In case you wondered why I'm so late with my reply, I was checking out Omri's channel throughout the day.

    @dendy

    Your session sounds fantastic! Your modular setup is small and nice, but works great. Keep up the fantastic work mate.

    @colorinspace

    Great video! Beautiful patch, but what happened to Che? 😳

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    This might not be what you're trying for, but Eno-style ambient is ridiculously easy in AUM. Get some loops, trim them so no two are the same length, and loop them in AUM file players. The longer the loops and the more you have of them, the longer before you will hear the same combination of sounds twice.

    For infinite variation, put a separate LFO on each loop's fader. Each LFO at its own speed--slower is better. No tempo syncing. Use sine or triangle waves for the smoothest mix. This will give you an infinitely varied ambient mix.

    Wait so you can point an LFO at the individual faders of each track in AUM? I missed this somehow 😯

    To automate a fader in AUM just click on the name at the bottom of the channel under the output node, click on the ‘faders’ icon on top left that appears in the pop up, just left of the words ‘edit channel’, then tap on ‘channel controls’. Then assign your midi sources to volume.

    As the kids these days say, "I am today's years old when I found that out." 😂

    Lmao right?? I may have audibly gasped at that one 😂 I’m not seeing how to do it though 🤔 it’s not showing up in the exposed parameters.

    A couple more AUM modular tricks:

    1) Put an AUM low pass filter on a channel. Instead of automating the fader with an LFO to bring the channel in and out of the mix, leave the fader alone and automate the filter cutoff instead. This adds a little more sonic interest to your fades, especially with a touch of resonance.

    2) Automate one fader (or filter) with a sine or triangle LFO. Send that channel’s audio into FAC Envolver. Use the inverse setting on Envolver to automate a second channel’s fader (or filter). The result is that the two channels take turns playing. As one gets louder the other gets quieter. This is basically side-chaining, but it works at very slow speeds to alternate two elements in an arrangement. You don’t always need the lfo for this trick, if one part is already intermittent.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    This might not be what you're trying for, but Eno-style ambient is ridiculously easy in AUM. Get some loops, trim them so no two are the same length, and loop them in AUM file players. The longer the loops and the more you have of them, the longer before you will hear the same combination of sounds twice.

    For infinite variation, put a separate LFO on each loop's fader. Each LFO at its own speed--slower is better. No tempo syncing. Use sine or triangle waves for the smoothest mix. This will give you an infinitely varied ambient mix.

    Wait so you can point an LFO at the individual faders of each track in AUM? I missed this somehow 😯

    To automate a fader in AUM just click on the name at the bottom of the channel under the output node, click on the ‘faders’ icon on top left that appears in the pop up, just left of the words ‘edit channel’, then tap on ‘channel controls’. Then assign your midi sources to volume.

    As the kids these days say, "I am today's years old when I found that out." 😂

    Lmao right?? I may have audibly gasped at that one 😂 I’m not seeing how to do it though 🤔 it’s not showing up in the exposed parameters.

    A couple more AUM modular tricks:

    1) Put an AUM low pass filter on a channel. Instead of automating the fader with an LFO to bring the channel in and out of the mix, leave the fader alone and automate the filter cutoff instead. This adds a little more sonic interest to your fades, especially with a touch of resonance.

    2) Automate one fader (or filter) with a sine or triangle LFO. Send that channel’s audio into FAC Envolver. Use the inverse setting on Envolver to automate a second channel’s fader (or filter). The result is that the two channels take turns playing. As one gets louder the other gets quieter. This is basically side-chaining, but it works at very slow speeds to alternate two elements in an arrangement. You don’t always need the lfo for this trick, if one part is already intermittent.

    Ooooo that sounds like a lot of fun, thanks! So point 2 is doing something sorta like what MidiMixer does but (probably) easier to setup?

    I’m definitely gonna try the first one asap. I need to dive more into what AUM has to offer. I always use external apps for those things for some reason. Outside of the limiter which I throw on all channels in my default template.

  • WillWill

    Great thread. Thanks, all.

    For me, limiting the modules in MiRack is absolutely key. I'm just not the sort of person that thrives with jillions of possibilities. I appreciate that others are.

  • AileromAilerom

    Do I want to understand this?

  • bygjohnbygjohn

    @Ailerom said:
    Do I want to understand this?

    The person who patched it probably doesn’t fully understand what’s happening. 🤣

    They’ll have probably patched it over days as each new idea gets worked in.

  • LittlewoodgLittlewoodg
    edited July 2023

    thank you @jwmmakerofmusic
    for asking the question and opening up the knowledge base

    i definitely benefited

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    This might not be what you're trying for, but Eno-style ambient is ridiculously easy in AUM. Get some loops, trim them so no two are the same length, and loop them in AUM file players. The longer the loops and the more you have of them, the longer before you will hear the same combination of sounds twice.

    For infinite variation, put a separate LFO on each loop's fader. Each LFO at its own speed--slower is better. No tempo syncing. Use sine or triangle waves for the smoothest mix. This will give you an infinitely varied ambient mix.

    Wait so you can point an LFO at the individual faders of each track in AUM? I missed this somehow 😯

    To automate a fader in AUM just click on the name at the bottom of the channel under the output node, click on the ‘faders’ icon on top left that appears in the pop up, just left of the words ‘edit channel’, then tap on ‘channel controls’. Then assign your midi sources to volume.

    As the kids these days say, "I am today's years old when I found that out." 😂

    Lmao right?? I may have audibly gasped at that one 😂 I’m not seeing how to do it though 🤔 it’s not showing up in the exposed parameters.

    A couple more AUM modular tricks:

    1) Put an AUM low pass filter on a channel. Instead of automating the fader with an LFO to bring the channel in and out of the mix, leave the fader alone and automate the filter cutoff instead. This adds a little more sonic interest to your fades, especially with a touch of resonance.

    2) Automate one fader (or filter) with a sine or triangle LFO. Send that channel’s audio into FAC Envolver. Use the inverse setting on Envolver to automate a second channel’s fader (or filter). The result is that the two channels take turns playing. As one gets louder the other gets quieter. This is basically side-chaining, but it works at very slow speeds to alternate two elements in an arrangement. You don’t always need the lfo for this trick, if one part is already intermittent.

    Ooooo that sounds like a lot of fun, thanks! So point 2 is doing something sorta like what MidiMixer does but (probably) easier to setup?

    I’m definitely gonna try the first one asap. I need to dive more into what AUM has to offer. I always use external apps for those things for some reason. Outside of the limiter which I throw on all channels in my default template.

    I think midimixer just records any fader moves you make by hand and then plays them back, like automation in a daw. As opposed to the modular trick of automating volumes with a lfo or looping envelope.

  • colorsinspacecolorsinspace

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    @wim

    Omri Cohen is really awesome. I poured through some of his videos, and I'm starting to gain a better understanding of miRack, even if he uses VCV Rack. :) Potato, po-tah-to.

    In case you wondered why I'm so late with my reply, I was checking out Omri's channel throughout the day.

    @dendy

    Your session sounds fantastic! Your modular setup is small and nice, but works great. Keep up the fantastic work mate.

    @colorinspace

    Great video! Beautiful patch, but what happened to Che? 😳

    My cat, Che passed away 2 years ago. He was the coolest friend ever. Always with me in the studio.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    @colorsinspace said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    @wim

    Omri Cohen is really awesome. I poured through some of his videos, and I'm starting to gain a better understanding of miRack, even if he uses VCV Rack. :) Potato, po-tah-to.

    In case you wondered why I'm so late with my reply, I was checking out Omri's channel throughout the day.

    @dendy

    Your session sounds fantastic! Your modular setup is small and nice, but works great. Keep up the fantastic work mate.

    @colorinspace

    Great video! Beautiful patch, but what happened to Che? 😳

    My cat, Che passed away 2 years ago. He was the coolest friend ever. Always with me in the studio.

    Aw shit. 😢 I'm so sorry to hear it mate.

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    This might not be what you're trying for, but Eno-style ambient is ridiculously easy in AUM. Get some loops, trim them so no two are the same length, and loop them in AUM file players. The longer the loops and the more you have of them, the longer before you will hear the same combination of sounds twice.

    For infinite variation, put a separate LFO on each loop's fader. Each LFO at its own speed--slower is better. No tempo syncing. Use sine or triangle waves for the smoothest mix. This will give you an infinitely varied ambient mix.

    Wait so you can point an LFO at the individual faders of each track in AUM? I missed this somehow 😯

    To automate a fader in AUM just click on the name at the bottom of the channel under the output node, click on the ‘faders’ icon on top left that appears in the pop up, just left of the words ‘edit channel’, then tap on ‘channel controls’. Then assign your midi sources to volume.

    As the kids these days say, "I am today's years old when I found that out." 😂

    Lmao right?? I may have audibly gasped at that one 😂 I’m not seeing how to do it though 🤔 it’s not showing up in the exposed parameters.

    A couple more AUM modular tricks:

    1) Put an AUM low pass filter on a channel. Instead of automating the fader with an LFO to bring the channel in and out of the mix, leave the fader alone and automate the filter cutoff instead. This adds a little more sonic interest to your fades, especially with a touch of resonance.

    2) Automate one fader (or filter) with a sine or triangle LFO. Send that channel’s audio into FAC Envolver. Use the inverse setting on Envolver to automate a second channel’s fader (or filter). The result is that the two channels take turns playing. As one gets louder the other gets quieter. This is basically side-chaining, but it works at very slow speeds to alternate two elements in an arrangement. You don’t always need the lfo for this trick, if one part is already intermittent.

    Ooooo that sounds like a lot of fun, thanks! So point 2 is doing something sorta like what MidiMixer does but (probably) easier to setup?

    I’m definitely gonna try the first one asap. I need to dive more into what AUM has to offer. I always use external apps for those things for some reason. Outside of the limiter which I throw on all channels in my default template.

    I think midimixer just records any fader moves you make by hand and then plays them back, like automation in a daw. As opposed to the modular trick of automating volumes with a lfo or looping envelope.

    Ah yeah I just meant in a more general sense. An LFO can definitely push things to a far more extreme extent. Haven’t tried it yet, been moving, but I’m looking forward to experimenting.

  • Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredrWrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    This might not be what you're trying for, but Eno-style ambient is ridiculously easy in AUM. Get some loops, trim them so no two are the same length, and loop them in AUM file players. The longer the loops and the more you have of them, the longer before you will hear the same combination of sounds twice.

    For infinite variation, put a separate LFO on each loop's fader. Each LFO at its own speed--slower is better. No tempo syncing. Use sine or triangle waves for the smoothest mix. This will give you an infinitely varied ambient mix.

    Wait so you can point an LFO at the individual faders of each track in AUM? I missed this somehow 😯

    To automate a fader in AUM just click on the name at the bottom of the channel under the output node, click on the ‘faders’ icon on top left that appears in the pop up, just left of the words ‘edit channel’, then tap on ‘channel controls’. Then assign your midi sources to volume.

    As the kids these days say, "I am today's years old when I found that out." 😂

    Lmao right?? I may have audibly gasped at that one 😂 I’m not seeing how to do it though 🤔 it’s not showing up in the exposed parameters.

    A couple more AUM modular tricks:

    1) Put an AUM low pass filter on a channel. Instead of automating the fader with an LFO to bring the channel in and out of the mix, leave the fader alone and automate the filter cutoff instead. This adds a little more sonic interest to your fades, especially with a touch of resonance.

    2) Automate one fader (or filter) with a sine or triangle LFO. Send that channel’s audio into FAC Envolver. Use the inverse setting on Envolver to automate a second channel’s fader (or filter). The result is that the two channels take turns playing. As one gets louder the other gets quieter. This is basically side-chaining, but it works at very slow speeds to alternate two elements in an arrangement. You don’t always need the lfo for this trick, if one part is already intermittent.

    Ooooo that sounds like a lot of fun, thanks! So point 2 is doing something sorta like what MidiMixer does but (probably) easier to setup?

    I’m definitely gonna try the first one asap. I need to dive more into what AUM has to offer. I always use external apps for those things for some reason. Outside of the limiter which I throw on all channels in my default template.

    I think midimixer just records any fader moves you make by hand and then plays them back, like automation in a daw. As opposed to the modular trick of automating volumes with a lfo or looping envelope.

    Ah yeah I just meant in a more general sense. An LFO can definitely push things to a far more extreme extent. Haven’t tried it yet, been moving, but I’m looking forward to experimenting.

    You can attenuate the modulation fx in AUM, in the page where you assign the CC to its target.

  • colorsinspacecolorsinspace

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @colorsinspace said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    @wim

    Omri Cohen is really awesome. I poured through some of his videos, and I'm starting to gain a better understanding of miRack, even if he uses VCV Rack. :) Potato, po-tah-to.

    In case you wondered why I'm so late with my reply, I was checking out Omri's channel throughout the day.

    @dendy

    Your session sounds fantastic! Your modular setup is small and nice, but works great. Keep up the fantastic work mate.

    @colorinspace

    Great video! Beautiful patch, but what happened to Che? 😳

    My cat, Che passed away 2 years ago. He was the coolest friend ever. Always with me in the studio.

    Aw shit. 😢 I'm so sorry to hear it mate.

    Thx

  • rs2000rs2000

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @HotStrange said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    This might not be what you're trying for, but Eno-style ambient is ridiculously easy in AUM. Get some loops, trim them so no two are the same length, and loop them in AUM file players. The longer the loops and the more you have of them, the longer before you will hear the same combination of sounds twice.

    For infinite variation, put a separate LFO on each loop's fader. Each LFO at its own speed--slower is better. No tempo syncing. Use sine or triangle waves for the smoothest mix. This will give you an infinitely varied ambient mix.

    Wait so you can point an LFO at the individual faders of each track in AUM? I missed this somehow 😯

    To automate a fader in AUM just click on the name at the bottom of the channel under the output node, click on the ‘faders’ icon on top left that appears in the pop up, just left of the words ‘edit channel’, then tap on ‘channel controls’. Then assign your midi sources to volume.

    As the kids these days say, "I am today's years old when I found that out." 😂

    Lmao right?? I may have audibly gasped at that one 😂 I’m not seeing how to do it though 🤔 it’s not showing up in the exposed parameters.

    A couple more AUM modular tricks:

    1) Put an AUM low pass filter on a channel. Instead of automating the fader with an LFO to bring the channel in and out of the mix, leave the fader alone and automate the filter cutoff instead. This adds a little more sonic interest to your fades, especially with a touch of resonance.

    2) Automate one fader (or filter) with a sine or triangle LFO. Send that channel’s audio into FAC Envolver. Use the inverse setting on Envolver to automate a second channel’s fader (or filter). The result is that the two channels take turns playing. As one gets louder the other gets quieter. This is basically side-chaining, but it works at very slow speeds to alternate two elements in an arrangement. You don’t always need the lfo for this trick, if one part is already intermittent.

    Ooooo that sounds like a lot of fun, thanks! So point 2 is doing something sorta like what MidiMixer does but (probably) easier to setup?

    I’m definitely gonna try the first one asap. I need to dive more into what AUM has to offer. I always use external apps for those things for some reason. Outside of the limiter which I throw on all channels in my default template.

    I think midimixer just records any fader moves you make by hand and then plays them back, like automation in a daw. As opposed to the modular trick of automating volumes with a lfo or looping envelope.

    Ah yeah I just meant in a more general sense. An LFO can definitely push things to a far more extreme extent. Haven’t tried it yet, been moving, but I’m looking forward to experimenting.

    You can attenuate the modulation fx in AUM, in the page where you assign the CC to its target.

    ...and that should also allow for less "steppy" modulation (by mapping the 128 MIDI CC values to a narrower AUv3 parameter range).

  • SvetlovskaSvetlovska
    edited July 2023

    I’ve been using MIDILFOS and MIDIgates forever to try to fill the GAPING AUTOMATION CANYON (sorry! :) ) in AUM, using them to run faders, mutes, and swapping channels in and out.

    It’s very easy, just hit the channel name at the bottom, then the sliders icon top left in the box that opens, then channel controls, then you can allocate an LFO driven cc to all the channel controls - volume, mute, pan, etc, or even bypass it.

    Pro tip: make a pair of channels, bus the output of the first into the second, with a reverb on two. Then, when the lfo mutes or swaps out the audio, you get a natural sounding reverb trail rather than an abrupt cut off.

    Also useful: MM1, which basically automates the mutes.

    These techniques all have their uses, but of course they are not a substitute for a proper editable automation track for AUM, fully integrated as part of the AUM ‘operating system’ built in. Yes, this is my hobby horse, and I am going to ride it…

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Svetlovska said:
    I’ve been using MIDILFOS and MIDIgates forever to try to fill the GAPING AUTOMATION CANYON (sorry! :) ) in AUM, using them to run faders, mutes, and swapping channels in and out.

    It’s very easy, just hit the channel name at the bottom, then the sliders icon top left in the box that opens, then channel controls, then you can allocate an LFO driven cc to all the channel controls - volume, mute, pan, etc, or even bypass it.

    Pro tip: make a pair of channels, bus the output of the first into the second, with a reverb on two. Then, when the lfo mutes or swaps out the audio, you get a natural sounding reverb trail rather than an abrupt cut off.

    Also useful: MM1, which basically automates the mutes.

    These techniques all have their uses, but of course they are not a substitute for a proper editable automation track for AUM, fully integrated as part of the AUM ‘operating system’ built in. Yes, this is my hobby horse, and I am going to ride it…

    I really hope we get automation in AUM someday. I have MM1 but I’ve yet to really dive into it. I also have MidiGates but I don’t have MidiLFOs. Is it worth having even though I have other apps like mLFO, LFOH, MMM, etc?

  • bygjohnbygjohn

    @Svetlovska said:
    Pro tip: make a pair of channels, bus the output of the first into the second, with a reverb on two. Then, when the lfo mutes or swaps out the audio, you get a natural sounding reverb trail rather than an abrupt cut off.

    You could keep the channel count down by just putting the reverb in the channel as normal, but moving the node post fader.

  • SvetlovskaSvetlovska
    edited July 2023

    @bygjohn : true, but I like to ride the fader for the reverb separately from the instrument it is effecting, to bring it up as a swell effect on an individual instrument basis when I’m doing my live mixdown to AudioShare, though I do occasionally bus several instruments of a similar type onto a separate single channel.

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