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Very interesting.I’m still waiting for a full “algorave” environment like supercollider but for iOS. But maybe it’s a matter of combining apps (Vividshaper or Audulus for synthesis and Mozaic or Wotjas scripting engine for the composition.
This looks like a total hoot, and a much quicker way to get something interesting going with Lua, than in Audulus.
Absolutely, be nice to have sonic-pi on iOS. (https://sonic-pi.net/)
Wasn't there an iOS version of chuck at some point in the past or did I dream that?
There was a port of CSound on iOS called RunLoopSound, but it is no longer available for some reason. I really want SuperCollider on my iPad and Android!
I started by hitting the HELP button and editing the ADSR vales to see if I could make some "popping sounds"... I got some short sounds but haven't found the right settings for a true "pop". It makes me wish I could start from an upload sample.
I suspect overtime the developer will add that as a feature. I haven't found any kind of roadmap or approved feature request list yet but I suspect that kind of planning will emerge on the Discord channel.
Still... there's something compelling in the delivered range of presets that validate the tech here. I love a synth that morphs and that's what's being demo'ed in these presets... sound that deliver an evolving soundscape over many seconds. Something you won't get from samples typically due to storage costs but some synths are also good at this and they are standouts for
going beyond the typical preset landscape. Its something that Korg has been so good at over many years.
I hope the tech savvy regulars here get on this train and show us the way to mastering this approach to synth "sound engineering". @wim, @espiegel123, @_Ki... are you checking this new VividSynth out and writing some "presets"?
Time to looking for a Lua YouTube to see what's possible for looping, data structures and modularity/functions.
I'll report back.
FWIW, Audulus is fully capable of note-related programming and processing.
eh. No way. I'm not touchin' that one. The last thing I need is yet another geek distraction to keep me from actually, you know, uh ... making music. 🧐
I can’t believe you won’t test the waters. Programmers should learn a new language every year… this could be the year of “Lua”. I found a Lua tutorial on YouTube and pasted the code right into VividShaper to see what might happen and it errored out so it’s a subset of Lua behaviors. No text output for example using “print”. I was hoping there might be a window for exchange of text prompts and input replies.
I will wait for @espiegel123 and @_Ki. I think we can pull you into a look see. It’s similar to Mozaic in that you can be a user without writing a single line of code. The Presets are compelling. Maybe @thesoundtestroom will do a Preset survey video to show the power of the AUv3 Synth functionality.
I tried setting up Preset switching in AUM but it didn’t seem to work. Maybe someone can crack that nut… I think AUM Parameter functionality is needed in another update.
The dev watched my vid and in response to some of my observations has said that he will a) improve the preset system, at least adding batch import / export and tagging, and will expose the auv3 parameters 🔥
@mcD: I learned lua this year since Audulus can use it for creating custom graphic u.I. elements. They recently added the ability to use it for DSP coding, too.
I’ve got my hands full with the projects I am already working on.
I program but I'm not a programmer. If programming is the only way to accomplish something, even if it means learning a new language, then I'll obsess over it until I do. Twiddling synth knobs doesn't fall into that category. 😉
Still… you put out Mozaic code at a truly impressive rate when prompted with something worth writing. I think this might be a similar situation as people request interesting “waveforms” and would like a little help. It’s only $6.
Sorry, I just can't see it. There ain't nothing about a waveform that needs to be created from custom code. Helping people to do things that are (IMO) of little use isn't my thing. I can't imagine there's anything that essential or unique about a waveform just because it was created with LUA. I'd sooner use a synth that you can draw your own waveforms than bury my head in code to do it.
And besides, how the heck would anyone describe what the heck they wanted in terms that someone else could turn it into code?? 😂
Enough my friend. Good try. But no one needs to read about why I'm not interested in an app.
FYI: Lua has 21 reserved keywords… I have no idea how many will work in VividShaper but that’s a good p;ace to start learning how to create functions and data structures, I think.
My first Preset is a simple modification of the 1st Factory Preset to add a little Pop to the notes and add more overtones to the spectrum. Changes to numHarmonics and VSADSRE parameters only.
AUM set up for the recording - Oops! I snapped the screen with VividSynth in active. Don’t do that!
The Reverb used is AudioReverb “Chambers: Dark Chamber” preset.
The MIDI Generators are 3 instances of Riffler all feeding one VividSynth. I spread the Rifflers across different octaves:
Resulting audio recording:
Yeah, seems like the waveforms themselves might be thing of least interest. What would be more interesting would be full programmatic control over creation and modulation of envelopes, lfos, filters. Vividshaper gives you this, right? You can use Mozaic to do modulation, at least, of those, but I can see how having programmatic control inside the synth could be useful. For example, I assume there's then no problem with being limited to 128 values of midi. Using Mozaic to control synth modulation rather than having it built-in might start to feel downright clunky. (I guess Mozaic already feels clunky for this, but feel lucky to have it available at all.)
I wonder if the programmatic synth interface might be the kind of thing that makes some simple things harder than with gui, but makes some things that are hard with a gui much easier.
At a fairly basic and fundamental level, a line of code that executes a maths equation over a series of frames to produce a varying number is about the most elegant (quick) way possible to produce infinitely differing shapes. Take for example the Daniel Shiffman book for Processing, (countless other examples), as a starting point, EG the oscillations chapter, https://natureofcode.com/book/chapter-3-oscillation/
Which is to say, the programmatic way to "draw", geometric yet potentially complex shapes, certainly when repeated a mundanely large number of times, or recursive times, is going to be literally factors easier in code,, assuming you've grappled with this maths equationey approach of plugging numbers in to formulas and seeing what they do.
In this example https://natureofcode.com/book/chapter-8-fractals/ we see some wonderful fractals that result from a recursive function, now, admittedly if these were played by a wavetable they might be horrible, and that's probably not the shape that I would draw as a wavetable, but the point is still applicable, an infinite variety of forms can be made from very little code/maths.
What might be harder,, perhaps still life sketching?
PS as an aside for anyone interested, Lua, having been designed as a small and thus embeddable language in other applications, is also in Reaper, Davinci Resolve, and every geek's favourite code editor, neovim, amongst others.
(EDIT:) I'm pretty sure this is not meant to be for everyone though, I actually found this amount of attention for it to be surprising, and not the least bit surprising if most people are not interested in coding of wavetables. Why the hell would you if you could be doing something else
I do really like the idea personally though, of this specifically even more than other coding platforms, a very pure experiment in drawing all kinds of wave shapes
Very interesting post!
I'm also surprised by the level of interest. Wonder why!
I have not done a lot with Audulus but I am aware of the DSP module for sound processing. But is it possible to program algorithm based sequences in Audulus ? And where would you start ?
This is really Neato. I think this is the year of the LUA!
Kontakt 7.5 just added Lua script support.
Already in Falcon.
I must learn.
I wonder if you can build in this app and export code to continue in Kontakt it Falcon?
I must learn.
However, as you allude to, moving from the basic and fundamental level to the practical one: it's pretty elegant (quick) to produce different waveshapes by twiddling a knob (which may itself be tied to lines of code behind it that produce infinitely differing shapes).
Audulus is essentially a visual programming environment for music/audio. I don’t know how to describe his to start other than to explore the tutorials, manual and examples and watch some of the explanatory videos.
The lua DSP is not required for sound processing. It was implemented because there are certain types of audio processing that are easier. 99.9% of the people using Audulus probably don’t use it.
@espiegel123 thanks for the explanation. I am familiar with the modular structure of Audulus. What I am looking for is something as close to sonic-pi as possible. This means writing code, and ideally use the same environment for both the synthesis (audio DSP) and the composition / sequencing / arrangement (note event manipulation) part. Ideally such an environment would allow the code to be modified live.
I already contacted the developers of two iOS Python IDEs and asked if they would like to include audio and midi libraries in their software. Although they sounded enthusiastic, I see no progress and that their focus is mainly on the implementation of AI libraries.
Although likely to be tons of work to add a usable text interface, https://github.com/wdkk/iSuperColliderKit enables bundling of supercollider (which of course sonic pi is under the hood) in to an iOS app,,, albeit, it's more the engine than the front end to that engine.
Here's the conference paper presentation on it:
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/p/pod/dod-idx/isupercolliderkit-a-toolkit-for-ios-using-an-internal.pdf?c=icmc;idno=bbp2372.2015.047;format=pdf
I know, that's probably not much help unless you embark on building on top of it yourself, but it definitely has potential. Maybe we could crowdfund paying a dev, end result would be sonic pi on ios.
If by writing code you mean using a text-based language, Audulus won’t be a fit for you. Audulus is a visual coding environment.
Seems to me like you'd get a pretty cool live coding environment by using Mozaic (for midi notes and cc control) in combination with Vividshaper (for the audio). Two different tools, but they're both pretty optimized for their specific functions. Both AUv3.
I do know Pythonista, at least, used to support midiutil (midi) and wavebender (audio) modules, and at least as I remember, you can install any modules you want, so long as they use Python code only. Even if those were what you wanted, there are issues integrating Python solutions with rest of iOS audio ecosystem. E.g., good luck getting anything as AUv3, and Pythonista scripts have issues with running in background, since Pythonista isn't recognized as audio app and will be terminated by iOS.
Somehow I just got this urge to learn lua. It’s the portuguese word for moon, so there’s that. But it looks like it’s being adopted a lot recently. I’m excited to see it flourish
You are all warned! 😂
Haha, that's pretty neat, nice to see my channel logo in there 👻