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JWM 070923a (Dark Ambient done in miRack)(advice needed)
It is a rather predictable-sounding patch and a bit dull in my own opinion. Okay, so for my next patch, how do I make it less cyclical and less predictable? How do I give it more "life" as it were? 
Any tips and tricks and advice are always welcome.
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A screenshot of the patch might be useful, so we can see what’s going on.
That aside, introducing randomness might help. Not sure how you’re fading the sequence in and out, but if you’re using an LFO and want more variation you could try making a long envelope control the level, and then use something random to trigger it. Immediate thought is a slowed clock put through a Bernoulli gate and adjust it so it doesn’t always fire the envelope.
The sequence itself could maybe be modulated. How depends on the sequencer. Modulating the sequence start point, and modulating sequence length are immediate thoughts. Or maybe not even use it directly, but use a sample and hold to grab CV from it using a randomised trigger (see above), then run it through a quantiser.
These are just my immediate thoughts.
Some really great ideas mate! Here's a screenshot though not sure how legible it'd be, lol.
feed it with notes from some sequencer with note probabilities … like Cykle https://apps.apple.com/sk/app/cykle/id1187680637
Or Dambo sequencer.
If you want to fully stay just inside miRack look in “sequencers” section for random/probabilistic stuff .. or stuff where you can modulate vaious things (pattern, pttern speed, etc) and then modulate it with some random signal (for example noise through sample&hold)
I’m in fits of laughter here as you’ve managed to use a whole bunch of modules I’ve either not used at all, or barely touched! I think I’d best leave it till tomorrow as it’s 1 AM here and I should hit the sack.
I’ll hopefully have a sharper brain tomorrow (after about a gallon of coffee, natch!).
Just for the sake of efficiency, you can use a mixer that has aux sends/returns. That way you’d only need one Plateau if you’re not planning to modulate them differently. I like the ones by mscHack.
That's an excellent suggestion. I will probably stay in miRack for the time being as I keep figuring things out.
I really want to continue immersing myself in the wonderful world of modular! 🙂
😂😂😂 No two people do modular quite the same that's for sure lol.
Hahaha! 🤣
Sweet! Will check those out tomorrow for sure!
OK, so here goes. NB there’s no right or wrong way of going about this stuff, these are just suggestions/thoughts.
Top row:
You might want to consider swapping out the Mental master clock for the Clocked module, as that has a main clock out and three outputs that can be multiplied or divided, and have pulse width controls so you can use them for gates (some clocks only output triggers - basically a trigger is a very fast gate, ie just a blip).
The Seq-8 is great for fixed sequences as it doesn’t need a quantiser, but it lacks modulation options, apart from the reset - you could play around with sending random triggers to the reset I guess. ADDR-SEQ would be a useful alternative, in fact two of them, plus a quantiser. Use one for the notes (set the voltage range in the pop-up menu), and the other to modulate the start point of the one playing notes. You can set odd numbers of steps on both to add to the fun! And of course clock them differently. If you have a nice sequence going but the range is wrong, try the Stack module from BogAudio as you can change the octave and transpose accurately without having to mess with tuning oscillators.
You could apply modulation to the three modulation inputs on Valerie. The knobs are attenuverters, so at 12 o’clock the modulation will do nothing - turn clockwise for positive modulation, anticlockwise for negative.
You can apply modulation to any of the modulation inputs on Plateau, they all have attenuverters, too (and use triggers or gates on the hold and clear buttons). Likewise there are modulation inputs on Braids/Macro Oscillator, but you will probably want to use attenuverters with them as they don’t have their own. Befaco dual attenuverter is just the thing for this.
Sequence Modeler I haven’t used, but it would be worth reading the manual to find out precisely what the Prob and Mod sockets do and how they interact.
Mixer: a good one is Mixovnik, as you can link stereo pairs and it has two send-return loops. That said, the BogAudio ones have advantages, as you can send modulation to the Pan inputs to futz with the panning, and you can use the level inputs to modulate the mix or apply envelopes (each channel effectively becomes a VCA). And they can be used to mix CV.
Middle row:
This is the row I’m struggling with, partly due to unfamiliarity with some of the modules, partly as some cables are coming in from off screen at the right, so I’m not entirely sure what’s being done to what.
The left hand section looks like it’s processing stuff from the row above, and basically same comments apply re modulation and using attenuverters to tame it.
Next set of modules seem to be mixing modulation sources and using S&H to derive pitches - you might find a quantiser helpful, depends on the sounds.
Right hand side seems to be processing and modulating stuff from the off screen source, and all the previous stuff re modulation applies.
Bottom row:
Windz: try feeding triggers into the Random socket, and on Laika apply modulation signals to the three modulation inputs. You might find it useful to swap out Laika for Stairway, as it’s stereo and highly modulatable. HOWEVER: patch its inputs first. Unless it’s fixed in the latest update (haven’t checked yet), it will crash MiRack if you try to patch the outputs without having the inputs patched. Bug aside, it’s a lovely filter.
TL:DR version: Modulate and randomise!
But really: you’re doing OK, just need to get more adventurous with what modulates what and how, and introduce more randomness.
@bygjohn thanks for all those great ideas, will try them too !!
Exactly what I'm looking for.
Yes! Exactly! Mate, this is a treasure trove of advice I was looking for from a fantastic expert.
Cheers mate. Thank you so much for taking the time to help me.
No worries, and I’m absolutely not an expert! Just picked up tips from others, so spreading the knowledge.