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Can we talk about Post Rock on IOS please!
I absolutely love Post Rock. Explosions in the Sky are one of my favorite bands. If you haven’t seen them live, then make a note to yourself to try to see them sometime.
I would like to be able to do a live set with my modular, my OP, one field, and of course the iPad. Using MI Rings would defiantly be one of my voices. The OP-1 has a nice guitar (strings) synth so that would be another possibility. I’m also looking for a nice sounding guitar app that I could either run through my fx on the Eurorack or maybe even sample.
What’s a good guitar app on IOS. I have Thumbjam and I can get some nice slides and bends on it but the sound quality isn’t amazing as it’s only a single sample spread out I believe.
Are there any other post rock fanatics, who have tried to make this music on their iPad?
I can’t be the only Post Rock sucker around here!
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First, I'm sorry I have no good answer to your guitar app questions.
Second, wow. Thank you. I just listened to Explosions in the Sky for the first time ever, tracks from an older album, The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place, and I am nearly moved to tears. It's just beautiful. Now I have to check out everything they recorded. What are your favorite albums of theirs? What other groups or individuals would you recommend?
I have an OP-1f also, and I would think some of the really sweet plucky sounds coming from that would be great. You could mix it up with Geoshred or Thumbjam for smaller parts. Sampling some sounds you create with those apps seems like an interesting idea.
The guitar parts on the Explosions in the Sky stuff I'm listening to right now are not technically challenging, just melodic and expressive and avoid all the old bluesy rock cliches and tones.
Sorry for the OT ish response. Thanks so much for sharing this, and I hope you find the information you need.
That album is what got me into those guy! Seeing them live is an experience so please do yourself a favor and go see them if you ever have the chance. Other albums - Take Care Take care Take care is great. All of a sudden I miss everyone is also amazing!
I’m so happy you like them, I try to turn them into everyone I know.
Geoshred is something I need to get! Thx.
I like the “Indie Guitar” IAP in decent sampler. Might work for this kind of stuff. It’s simple, has no bends or other articulations but it’s a good multi sampled Jazzmaster thru a music man amp
I'm a fan of post-rock, and it influences my music pretty heavily. I like Explosions In The Sky, God Is An Astronaut, Godspeed You Black Emperor and a bunch of others.
Quite a few of my songs would sound like post-rock instrumentals if the vocals were removed. I use actual guitars to achieve the sound, but it could be done with sampled guitars, especially the tremolo picking which is distinctive of the genre - in fact that's probably easier with samples than it is with a guitar
A couple of my tracks, which although they have vocals are very much influenced by post-rock arrangements and dynamics:
Oh yes post-rock fan here too! It’s probably hard to get a post-rock sound without a guitar. I can only encourage you to get a cheapish guitar (start with a squier strat/tele or jaguar) and try to get some tones out of it. Just put a lot of effects on it. Overdrive, amp sim, reverb/delay and you’ll see that it’s no witchcraft. The effects will play for you
Play single notes or power chords with a dropped tuning.
I admit I've never heard of the Post Rock genre before, but if all the artists and albums sound like "The Earth is Not a Cold Dead Place", i.e. instrumental with uplifting chord progressions, I think I found a new favourite genre to listen to. In a way, it reminds me of some Lofi beats, not in production aesthetics but rather in its vibe. It's pleasant to listen to, calming, helps me focus, etc.
I'd try to produce this genre, but without a guitar as I have no guitar. I'm sure I can use FM synthesis or physical modelling to imitate a clean electric guitar and slap on a ton of stomp boxes and effects, and with AudioThing's Speakers soon to be released to iOS, I can emulate speakers and such too.
The thing I noticed about The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place is that the guitar tones are really sweet, beautiful reverbs, ethereal but not effecty. Also, the parts are not technical, they are quite simple but the counterpoint is intricate. And the chord voicings are sophisticated and original. They use a lot of open strings, suspended chords, and beautiful inversions. And what used to be called broken chords (which is now a synonym for arpeggios) but used to mean chords with only one or two fretted notes and often open strings in between. Stunning stuff, it goes right to my heart.
Fwiw, ThumbJam instruments are mostly multi-sampled and not just a single sample. Some may be single samples but most aren’t.
Guitarism is actually really good for that explosions in the sky thing.
Chowdsp BYOD as a Amp ir module with four different speaker cab. Tons of free speaker ir on the web. Also it free.
“Can we talk about post rock” YES PLEASE 🙌🏻 Talk Talk is one of my all time favorite bands. Explosions… are great as well. Godspeed, Slint, some Swans, Sigor Ros. Lots of amazing bands.
For guitar on iOS I use Pianoteq a lot. It’s an acoustic guitar but has some electric presets and it sounds VERY convincing. Almost uncanny. And if ran through a great amp sim it’s nearly indistinguishable.
For some other recs, search PianoBook for some free samples for Decent Sampler. There are a couple of really good ones. Riffler is great, too. Also Pure Synth Platinum has some really good guitar presets. Not amazing, but very useable. Thumbjam also starts to sound more convincing when ran through some good amp sims.
Speakers is actually coming?! That’s the one I want from them the most 🤩
Also, I think Riffler, PSP, and Decent Sampler can be very convincing when ran through some good amp sims. That’s typically what I use. Or Pianoteq of course.
Finding free IRs sounds like more than I signed up for, but ChowDSP BYOD looks like a lot of fun to play with as-is. Can't believe that's free though!
Looks like it mate.
Great recommendations mate.
I love Pure Synth Platinum 2. Great rompler. Never tried Riffler before, but I'll get it after my next couple of gigs, so sometime next week.
Hey! These are really good, like really. Can’t believe it’s been years and I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything from you til now. I really like the vibe the vocals lend to the tracks. (Probably just negligent and missed them)
Oh I didn’t know you were doing gigs? Sweet! All iPad?
Riffler is great, you’ll love it. It really runs the gamut on musical styles too. I’ve gotten some amazing new wave guitar licks on there and the death/black metal styles get down right nasty 😂
PSP2 is great! The electric guitar presets ran through some amp sims makes for some really usable tunes.
I just listened and liked these on SoundCloud just now!
Ahhhh, great songs! Man, one of these days we need to collab again. 
Maybe another industrial breakbeat/breakcore type track like I did with my second version of "Nobody". That was loads of fun!
All piano at a restaurant I have residency at. 😃
Suh-weet!
I'll have to try those out!
That’s awesome my man! Congrats. Hope you’re enjoying it 🙏
Thanks mate.
I sure am. Let's not veer too far OT now, lol.
Not sure what the definition of "post-rock" is, but that's just instrumental rock as far as I can tell. A lot of it sounded like U2 or Cocteau Twins, but with no vocalists.
Wow these sound great!
FWIW, if one is using IRs, it is not expensive to get top-notch IRs .... I wasted a lot of time with free IRs. Many sound ok but not nearly as good, imo, as really good ones...and a lot of the decent free cabinet IRs pirated.
No idea about apps, but I love Mogwai, Russian circles, talk talk, slint and Godspeed you! Black emperor.
Try Steel Guitar Pro, it sounds decent compared to a real guitar/pedalboard setup. You can play the onscreen fretboard or send midi
Thanks - much appreciated. There's lots of people on the forum whose music I'm not familiar with either, so I think it's pretty normal.
And thanks to @jwmmakerofmusic and @colorsinspace too.
@colorsinspace I would say if you want to make post-rock music the drums are as important as the guitars: the main feature of post-rock IMO is the dynamic shifts in the music - quiet parts, loud parts, and the sense of ebb and flow between sections. The drums are what drive this, adding energy and taking it away, shifting from hats to cymbals to toms etc...
It's worth closely studying the arrangements of the tracks you like to listen to the way the drums change from section to section.
I agree with you that getting good quality ir make a difference. Specter sound studio gives away free in the following video a ir that is excellent.
My friend who as the Two notes Torpedo ir loader pedal and software said it is one of the best ir he heard.
Beat Scholar would seem like a good candidate for sequencing complex post rock drum patterns.
Yes I agree. I’m looking more to do post rock ambient… hahah maybe a new genre!